A militarized conspiracy theorist group believes radars are ‘weather weapons’ and is trying to destroy them

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/weather/weather-weapons-nws-radar-attack

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lobut@lemmy.ca · 143 pts · 1y (5 replies)

Jesus Christ. There's an actual takeover of your government that you guys can use your guns on. Cosplaying losers.

lowleekun@ani.social · 69 pts · 1y (1 reply)

But the radars wont shoot back

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 1y

Jan 6 showed us that they only go after low personal risk targets they think they can attack with impunity but whine like little snowflakes when they get caught and have to pay a price. They were shocked when the law came after them.

That’s why they attack radars, non-violent protests from the Left, or things like power substations as you mentioned. Nobody’s shooting back and the odds of getting caught are low.

bobs_monkey@lemm.ee · 29 pts · 1y

Those dummies think they're the good guys.

j0ester@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1y

You forget, they want this as well. Donald loves the uneducated.

GuyFawkes@midwest.social · 15 pts · 1y

Only if we organize, and that’s not as easy as it looks given:

  1. Vast geography, and
  2. I wouldn’t even know who to trust to follow through
Archangel1313@lemm.ee · 117 pts · 1y (18 replies)
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FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 1y (17 replies)

That's like half the US

GuyFawkes@midwest.social · 18 pts · 1y (14 replies)

Well like 30% if you base it on election results.

ryannathans@aussie.zone · -3 pts · 1y (13 replies)

I don't understand, didn't trump win the popular vote? Or is turnout only like 50% in the US?

meco03211@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y (9 replies)

In fact, Trump has NEVER won a majority of the popular vote.

mriswith@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (5 replies)

I know people love to repeat that on social media, but he did technically win the popular vote.

Harris: 75,017,613

Trump: 77,302,580

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024presgeresults.pdf

meco03211@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1y (4 replies)

He won a plurality of the popular vote. I said he never won a majority.

ryannathans@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y

Weird nitpick

mriswith@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y

Jason, is that you?

ryannathans@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 1y (2 replies)
meco03211@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

He won a plurality of the popular vote. I said he never won a majority.

ryannathans@aussie.zone · -1 pts · 1y

No need to copy paste your comment to every reply lol

can@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y

The overall turnout of eligible voters in the 2024 general election was 63.7%.[1] This was lower than the 2020 record of 66.6%[2] but higher than every other election year since at least 2004.

ubergeek@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Turnout is usually about 30%.

ryannathans@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y

Thanks, don't get the down votes tho?

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Half the US is stupid? I thought that number was higher.

DancingBear@midwest.social · 4 pts · 1y
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Steve@communick.news · 50 pts · 1y (1 reply)

In a way they are.
You see, the weather radar stations collect data.
Data used in the manufacture of... Knowledge Bombs

GuyFawkes@midwest.social · 5 pts · 1y

Can we just tell them it won’t make them smarter to get them to leave them alone?

Gregg@lemm.ee · 40 pts · 1y

Just more accelerationist bullshit

MyOpinion@lemm.ee · 32 pts · 1y

Sounds like something a MAGAt would get behind.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I mean, I can envision how plausible this sounds.

Much of this tech is hand-me-down military radar. There are adjacent tiny grains of truth, like energy weapons allegedly used to target diplomats, very slight correlations in studies on the dangers of radio/microwave-range radiation to humans, scary-sounding geoengineering papers, really scary military projects and so on.

Now, picture yourself in these people’s shoes. You have virtually no background in science. You’re in an information environment, immersed on Facebook and your neighbors and pastors and online influencers everything, where climate change is a hoax, where FEMA is corrupt and hostile, as is much of the government. Maybe chemtrail or cloud seeding theories are on your, err, radar.

…Thousands, if not millions of people live in this state.

Now the NWS is politicized and liberal. People make the connection with them and climate science.

…This is not a big jump. It’s a really tiny one.

The US has been at the edge of many similar thresholds, and we’re gonna cross a ton of them very soon.

TheBat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)
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anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y

Standing in the basement surrounded by food buckets they bought during ad breaks on OANN.

ChillPenguin@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1y (4 replies)

My parents think NASA controls the weather. So this tracks.

lka1988@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I'm so sorry. I can't imagine having parents like that.

ChillPenguin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

Yeahhh, one of them is a narcissist. So it comes with the territory. Plus no critical thinking skills at all.

humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y

Yup, when they built a cell phone tower next to the water tower down the street, it was obviously a government mind-control and weather-control device called Harp.

I enjoyed it when his y2k canned goods got repo’d by the storage facility.

Archer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

NASA scrubs launches all the time because of bad weather though?

flop_leash_973@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It is amazing how much "crazy" mirrors rule 34. If you can think it up, someone has a conspiracy theory about how it is being used to harm or control the general public.

lka1988@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y

Rule 34-C

SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one · 21 pts · 1y

Based on the title, I could easily believe this was an accurate description of the American regime.

No I will not validate it by calling it a government.

loaf@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Definitely conservatives.

GuyFawkes@midwest.social · 10 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I’ll one up you and say MAGAts, mainly because I know ONE guy who was hardcore conservative, and still is, but is as anti-Trump as I am.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y

Lucky you.

I have a whole family tree, some very religious, some not, almost all invested in Trump. The rest are hard Democrats.

The Trumpers are very into Facebook.

Actually, there is one kinda libertarian, and I’m not sure who they voted for… but it was not Harris or any Democrats for sure. And they kinda dismiss Trump as “noise” that will eventually go away.

saltesc@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1y (1 reply)

The group Veterans on Patrol, which the Southern Poverty Law Center defines as an anti-government militia organization

Aww. You guys were this close to a meaningful 2A and then Doppler radars 🤣 Roll again.

Opinionhaver@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 1y

Lets also not forget that Southern Poverty Law Center no longer is the highly regarded organization it once were. They've been labeling people such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali as anti-muslim extremists for example.

treadful@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 1y (2 replies)

This militia brought to you by AccuWeather.

I don't really think that's the case, but I am wondering if it's actually illegal to spread disinformation that might gently direct these nutjubs at specific targets.

Boeman@lemm.ee · 9 pts · 1y

Nah, all the US weather corporations source their initial material from NOAA. This includes radar data both raw and processed (storm locations, storm tracks, hail potential and mesocyclones). Anyone living in an area that gets severe weather. I live in tornado alley and am absolutely terrified that something could happen to the nexrad site near me with severe weather season going on right now.

halfatank@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
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vane@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y


I didn't know there is whole group of people trying to kill Gary Burghoff.

can@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 1y

It’s unclear what the group believes the radars are doing. The NEXRAD, or “next generation radar,” network has been in place since the 1990s and detects precipitation in the atmosphere. It can also help pinpoint tornadoes and severe thunderstorms, prompting timely, life-saving warnings. The system is also used by the Federal Aviation Administration and the US Air Force

Among other actions, NOAA’s security office advises that the NWS implement a buddy system when working at remote sites and be alert for suspicious activity.

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The security threat comes at a time of turmoil for the NWS, with many offices short-staffed due to hundreds of Trump administration layoffs and early retirements.

This does not end well.

Edit: I hope it doesn't get as bad as I can imagine.

I'm trying to be less pessimistic but this doesn't sound good.

mlg@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y

Meanwhile weather radar going AWOL because my 5Ghz WiFi used the DFS channel lol

Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 1y

Wrong conspiracy idiots

andybytes@programming.dev · 9 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Omgawd these freaks are scared of Doppler radar. It's our own fault. We allowed our country to get this stupid. Let a sleeping dog lie or let a sleeping dog get too big for its britches and run a muck in Religious superstition STUPER.. Not only is it important for the revolution to educate the masses, but just for the stable state of things. We're all going to be grasping as if we're drowning in water for things to blame, but this is just a collection of things. Via the intensity of the here and now. Expect only bad things from this point on until we stop these wars and start taxing the rich or even better eating the rich .....nothing will improve. This is a bourgeois democracy, which is NOT a democracy. And so voting Democrat is not going to make things better. Plus, we have a long road ahead of us. Since when did we ever actually impeach a president? It's all for show. It's ritualistic public shaming that means nothing.

bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 1y

To be fair, the conspiracy nuts are probably being targeted by a Russian psyop, with the goal of sabotaging infrastructure, increase costs etc etc

Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y

Round them up and put them in front of a jury and then treat their mental illness.

itspatato@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Russian PSYOP

andybytes@programming.dev · -6 pts · 1y (1 reply)

The United States sponsored a coup in 2014 in Ukraine and overthrew the government and handed it over to the Nationalist. These Nationalists glorify neo-Nazi ideology. ♪ ♪ They are attacking Russia and sacrificing their own sovereignty and their people all to provoke a war with Russia. The rich elite want to cut off Europe from Russia. Russia is providing Europe with a affordable energy resources. This is all just about imperialism and capitalism and natural resources. When people talk about Russian disinfo, it's most likely not Russian disinfo. America, Russia, and China are all capitalist countries, and they exploit their working class. You can critique the United States, though, since it chooses not to invest in its own infrastructure and has positioned themselves in this predicament, where it is waning in as a hegemon.. Both parties in the United States try as hard as they can to make sure that everything is privatized and that the working class never gets health care. The Democrats pretend to care, but they don't really. They are controlled opposition. Americans are unique in that they are incredibly misinformed and servile as a population. Yet they are still tribalistic and that benefits the rich at the top in the United States.

Rooty@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

I bet you wish there were two Putins so you could get spitroasted by both of them.

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 1y

Seriously playing out like Canadian bacon?

Wtf are the writers thinking?

nesc@lemmy.cafe · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Lol, attacking or planning to attack weather or any radar is a great way to disappear for a few years.

turtlesareneat@discuss.online · 3 pts · 1y

You have to go underground... weather underground... * theme song plays*

lightsblinken@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

education much?

A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

is this the fallout of several big "UFO" image/videos being dumped recently only to be immediately proven so verifiably bullshit that even the conspiracy theorists believe they're fake?

nthavoc@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1y
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halfatank@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
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Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y

Dumb people news again.

Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1y

Somehow this reminds me of the novel “Kiteworld”.

andybytes@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y

I can still think that they can modify the weather, but they're not like gawd, where they can just make it rain at a nowhere. Also, how do these people not understand Doppler radar?

BCsven@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 1y (8 replies)

Meh, let them weaken their country so a good invader can take over and correct the bullshit

catloaf@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 1y (7 replies)

I don't think there is any such thing as a "good invader".

FaceDeer@fedia.io · 6 pts · 1y (3 replies)

There have been a few. The Allies in WWII leap immediately to mind.

But in this case I don't see why anyone would do this for America.

catloaf@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y

I don't count those as invasions because the goal wasn't the seizure of any resource. WWII kicked off from the Nazi invasion of Poland, and the Allies fought them all the way back to Berlin, then gave Germany back (mostly, except the partitioning and the permanent military bases).

oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y

In the European theater? Maybe on the western front you could argue that was true but absolutely not on the eastern front. The Red Army was the cause of so many rapes and warcrimes on their way to Berlin. Not to mention their occupation of Eastern Europe, setting up on puppet states and later genocide in Eastern Europe. The western front also had plenty of rape cases caused by an army passing through. Definitely better than the eastern front but still heavily impacted the regions they passed through.

The Pacific theater is a bit of a question mark. The Japanese were absolutely awful, worse than the Nazis in quite a few ways. But from the sheer intensity of the fighting over here it is not a pleasant experience for anyone involved. Especially if you were a Japanese citizen during the island hopping campaign. There are plenty of reports of mass suicides being committed out of fear of what the US could do to them, to the US’ credit they did send interpreters to try to talk them out of it. Then there is the ethical question of the usage of the nuclear bombs, I am not going to give my opinion, this is one you must decide for yourself. The Chinese front is another complicated topic, there’s the Japanese with their brutality in things like the Rape of Nanking and there is what would be Maoist China, the Republic of China (who I don’t know enough about to make an argument on) and the USSR who is also here to complete the shit sandwich.

The North African front I know the least about so I am not even going to discuss it.

CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 4 pts · 1y

I dont see anyone that could. Even a weakened US is likely to have nukes, and a fair few of them, a hypothetical invader that is not Canada or Mexico (which would have to deal with having a smaller population and a much worse economy, or a much smaller population) has to deal with crossing an ocean and therefore building an extremely large naval capability. And finally, whoever it is would have to occupy a huge area with a population of over 300 million.

BCsven@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Based on USA slipping in to Nazi dictatorship, what could be a "bad" invader?

harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

North Korea? Somalia?

BCsven@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y

Seems the same if Trump gets his wau