Europe@feddit.org supports Zionism

A) Germany is specifically and explicitly helping to carry out at least one internationally recognized genocide at this moment

B) everyone is criticizing them for their current actions, that happen to be an even less justifiable repeat of their previous actions.

• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

This is literally part of the IHRA definition, and I'm not the one doing it, but if you'll look at the comment sections under a lot of Israel-related or Jewish-related news on there, you'll quickly understand why people on Lemmy don't want to accept the common definition of antisemitism..

Remember the attempted murders of suspected Palestinians in the US by Zionists?

3 months ago someone stabbed a Spanish Tourist near the Holocaust memorial in Berlin because they thought they ware a Jew.

Attacks on Jewish People, not Zionists are on the rise. And Israel is doing them no favors, not disputing that. But there is actual antisemitism out there, not just the "Challenging Zionists and Genociders" kind, but also the "Death to Jews" kind.

Why do you think that Jews don't deserve to have a home? Why does every other race and religion in the world get a home but Jews don't?

Those losers don't even have it in them to comment here, they're just silently downvoting comments in the thread.

FYI we can see you, your votes are publicly viewable through activitypub.

"I oppose genocide. Unless it's a group I dislike."

Supporting Israel statehood doesn't equate to support Netanyahu or denying Palestinian statehood.

It's debatable whether or not that comment actually is equating the genocide in Gaza to the Shoa.

In that case Austria and Germany would also find Albert Einstein, Hannah Ardent, and many more to be antisemitic for their letter to the NYT

https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948

The statement "All zionists are pigs" would be illegal for example since the Judensau is an antisemitic symbol.

How did you move from comparison of Israeli policies to these of Nazis to pigs?

As a comparison this is extremely daft. There are no antisemitic tropes here - being against Israel commiting genocide is a sign of humanity, not antisemitism.

Impressumspflicht is usually for commercial websites though. If feddit.org doesn't sell anything or doesn't demand money, then the imprint isn't necessary.

We have the most generous asylum and immigration laws, even just slightly restricting them is a deeply divisive topic in German politics. But sure we hate Arabs in general.

Calling an entire countries population racist is just a dumb statement that shows how little you know

I asked to be realistic. That ship has sailed in regards to Israel a long time ago.

Not sure if it makes a difference, just want to dump info here:

Feddit.org is owned by an austrian non-profit, so I assume it's the Austrian law that they have to follow.

fediverse.foundation is their page.

The domain is registered at a German GmbH, the contact info is Austrian.

Okay I don't know, now to my questions?

Of course you do, sweetheart 🙄

They got charged for showing swastikas outside of what the court deemed educational context. Not relevant, read your own article:

Das Gericht verweist auf das Hakenkreuz, das in der Karikatur verwendet wird. Das Hakenkreuz ist grundsätzlich ein verbotenes Symbol nach Paragraf 86a des Strafgesetzbuchs. Es ist nur legal, dieses Symbol zu zeigen, wenn man damit einen legitimen politischen Zweck verfolgt - zum Beispiel historische Aufklärung, oder etwa Warnung vor Neonazis.

Which law? Which law applies here? The article you posted is not relevant to the comment at hand

Why not having one state with equal rights for everyone living there and right to return for all Palestinian refugees and their descendants?

Because Israel has shown zero ability to manage a humanitarian state so far, even with all their added support from big daddy.

Giving Palestine the same chance before trying a two state solution would only be fair. Now if that doesnt work out, we can go for your idea, but not before Palestine gets the same option as Israel do to shoah or not.

Itll be fun, come on.

Because one state is a genocidal terror state. Would you ask Poland to give up half their country for the Nazi's to keep living in after the war?

The main issue here is that Israel is an Apartheid Settler Colonialist State. The German law prevents even mentioning the reality of Israel as an Apartheid or as a Settler Colonialist Entity, both of which are critical to the understanding of the current situation and the resolution.

Controversially, the German government officially classifies the following as antisemitic: the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement, the accusation that Israel is committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, and the depiction of Israel as a colonial or settler-colonial entity. Many of those arrested and cancelled in Germany over allegations of antisemitism have been Jews critical of Israel's policies.[4]

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-antisemitism_in_Germany

Due to the Settler Colonialism that have atomized the West Bank into hundreds of isolated Bantustans, it's already a one-state reality. I'll quote Avi Schlaim and Ilan Pappe below as they explain the situation quite comprehensivly.

An Apartheid State has no right to exist. This was the same for Apartheid South Africa. The state was abolished and replaced with one that has equal rights. It did not mean the expulsion of all Afrikaners, it meant the creation of a new state with the integration of equal rights and reparations for the oppressed. It's the same situation with the current state of Israel, and the way forward also requires the right of return for all Palestinians.

::: spoiler Settlements and the One-State Reality

The reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.

This type of settlement, where the native population gets 'Transferred' to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice. See: The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948, the Transfer Committee, and the JNF which led to Forced Displacement of 100,000 Palestinians throughout the mandate, before the mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948: Plan Dalet, Declassified Massacres of 1948, and Details of Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948) . Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967: Haaretz, Forward; while the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements (Oslo Accord Sources: MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ). The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.

The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases.

• Avi Shlaim: How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

"Its support – and this includes what is even called the ‘peace camp’ in Israel – for a two-state solution is an idea that says that you do not have to directly control every part of historical Palestine in order to establish your dominance and hegemony between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean. So, if you can squeeze the Palestinians into small Bantustans and allow them to have a flag and a semblance of a government, there are quite a few Israelis who do not mind at all, so long as this will be the last and final kind of settlement for the Palestine question. Which means no real political rights for the Palestinians, no right of return for the refugees, and keeping all Palestinians in different parts of historical Palestine, at best as second-rate citizens, at worst, as subjects in an apartheid state.

• ‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

State violence – official and otherwise – is part and parcel of Israel’s apartheid regime, which aims to create a Jewish-only space between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. The regime treats land as a resource designed to serve the Jewish public, and accordingly uses it almost exclusively to develop and expand existing Jewish residential communities and to build new ones. At the same time, the regime fragments Palestinian space, dispossesses Palestinians of their land and relegates them to living in small, over-populated enclaves.

The apartheid regime is based on organized, systemic violence against Palestinians, which is carried out by numerous agents: the government, the military, the Civil Administration, the Supreme Court, the Israel Police, the Israel Security Agency, the Israel Prison Service, the Israel Nature and Parks Authority, and others. Settlers are another item on this list, and the state incorporates their violence into its own official acts of violence. Settler violence sometimes precedes instances of official violence by Israeli authorities, and at other times is incorporated into them. Like state violence, settler violence is organized, institutionalized, well-equipped and implemented in order to achieve a defined strategic goal.

• https://m.btselem.org/settler_violence

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Baseless accusation, completely off topic. You're not helping the allegations that feddit.org is full of Zionists