Paranoid Kash Patel polygraphs FBI agents in MAGA purge

https://www.thedailybeast.com/paranoid-kash-patel-polygraphs-fbi-agents-in-maga-purge/

The FBI has devolved into chaos amid Director Kash Patel’s ongoing efforts to rid the agency of staff disloyal to the Trump administration.

Patel is now subjecting senior executives to polygraphs at a “rapid rate,” The New York Times reports, as part of a wider effort to stamp out embarrassing news leaks from within the agency.

One senior official told the Times in its exposé that he was forced out last month after being subjected to a lie detector test. He believes he was targeted because he hadn’t told Patel about his wife taking a knee during the 2020 protests against police brutality in Washington, D.C.

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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 119 pts · 1y (5 replies)

Ah yes, because those are totally a real and trustworthy technology and not some snake oil bullshit that is inadmissible in court because of how snake oil bullshit it is.

Anyway, that tracks.

DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee · 27 pts · 1y (3 replies)
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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 1y (2 replies)

The FBI before Trump shouldn't have been taken seriously when it was treating shit like BLM as dangerous while ignoring white power terrorist groups.

But it should be taken even less seriously now.

The government is an international laughing stock.

Yes.

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y

I think we’re confusing “taking seriously” with “respecting”

noxypaws@pawb.social · 2 pts · 1y

Or cointelpro decades before that, probably the same thing honestly

No_Eponym@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y

inadmissible in court

The judicial coup is out of control /s

Sanctus@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 1y

The fall of the US Empire on full display.

Goretantath@lemm.ee · 46 pts · 1y

A stress detector mislabled as a lie detector. Fuck right off..

knighthawk0811@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 1y (8 replies)

don't they know that polygraphs don't actually work? it's taught in psych 101 ffs

doctortofu@reddthat.com · 15 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Polygraphs have wires and knobs though, so that makes them scientific, high-tech and modern - otherwise the only way to do their witch hubt would be dunking agents in a pond or stripping them naked and looking for satan's birthmarks...

ikidd@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y (3 replies)

What else floats on water?

Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y (2 replies)

A church ?

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

So if they weigh the same as a church...

LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

I mean they did such in Ozark. The church selling drugs at church lol.

pivot_root@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y

They probably do and just don't care.

I'm sure they have a whole guidebook on how to present them to a judge in such a way that they can be used as evidence for baseless search warrants.

AlphaOmega@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y (1 reply)

They work, but only 50% of the time...

aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
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ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 1y (1 reply)

This is basically what J. Edgar Hoover did. I didn't think he ever used a polygraph specifically, but he did ideological purges all the time.

The FBI has always been like this.

(I would say hi to my agent, but let's be honest, he's probably been laid off already)

IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

He’s been replaced by ai 100%

orcrist@lemm.ee · 27 pts · 1y
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SulaymanF@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1y (1 reply)

This is crazy. The FBI was already a heavily conservative organization and now he’s dragging it into MAGA-only.

RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1y
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jagged_circle@feddit.nl · 22 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Polygraphs are bullshit and easy to defeat

finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y

Basically their entire existence (as they currently exist in the justice system) was manufactured purely to fabricate evidence from nothing.

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y (2 replies)

It’s not about the polygraph results. It’s if you’re smart enough to know polygraphs are bullshit and refuse to take one the opposition will use that as an implication of guilt. And because they’re bullshit and you get a “guilty” result, they’ll use that too.

jagged_circle@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

That doesn't sound legal

But you could also just take it and force the results to be useless

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y

Polygraph results are not admissible in court. Nonetheless, cases get tried in the public too.

Kurious84@eviltoast.org · 21 pts · 1y

Has the search for his neck begun?

pyre@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1y

devolved into chaos

i love how we're still pretending things are otherwise orderly when literal nazi clowns are running the show.

SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee · 18 pts · 1y

None dare call it FASCISM.

DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Every photo of this looks like he just mistrusted a fart

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y

He looks like he's just as surprised as everyone else that he's actually in charge of the FBI... It's imposter syndrome, but the dude is an actual imposter.

Placebonickname@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y

No kidding, this guy is the most shady looking m’fucker in US politics.

blargle@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 1y (2 replies)

His children's book for anyone who may have missed it. I think there's actually a whole series of them.

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 4 pts · 1y
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Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y

Fuck, I read some reviews from that page. What a depressing situation. I'm sure many are bots, but still.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1y

There is a

horse

loose

in the hospital

thedruid@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y

This guy is a bigger pansy than trump. Anyone that paranoid is an evil coward

RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
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vala@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

Ok I'm not going to entertain the idea that the actual FBI doesn't know how polygraphs work and how effective they really are.

This is a clear excuse to just oust whomever they don't like.

WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1y

Is the FBI really so full of abject cowards that they're all just rolling over and taking this? The US is so boned.

kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

Now do him

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

fascism in progress

Fines tripled or quadrupled, depending on what they feel like.

Kurious84@lemmings.world · 2 pts · 1y

He has that sold my soul look about him.