Well, actually, they're usually quite a bit wider. Especially if it's just the one. If there's many, it might not be that wide, but if there's just a single toilet, it will be built to specifications that dictate the door width to be enough to easily get into with a wheelchair.
Hell, we even apply that to outhouses.
That's a public toilet from a nature path/camping area not far away from me.
Or, like, don't look at people's genitals in the bathrooms. This is not a real problem. Public restrooms have managed to create privacy for as long as we've had public restrooms. Trans people aren't a new phenomenon, they're just the latest conservative scapegoat.
And just to be clear, no incidents related to creeps or pedophiles would be prevented by restricting trans people from using public facilities. Creeps are already breaking the law peeking at people. Creating a law just gives creeps a reason to bully trans individuals when they have to pee.
We still have those, they are just less common depending on where you are. The most common bathroom type by far is single use bathrooms. This isn't really an actual issue, just a fact one made up by bigots.
In the US, bathroom stalls are 5 feet tall, starting about a foot off the ground. There's very few, if any, floor to ceiling doors/ walls for bathrooms here.
The arguments are usually "drug users" or some other excuse, but it's a cost cutting thing. Cheap plastic walls are cheaper than actual walls.
Where is it though? I don't know anyone IRL that cares. And yet online apparently its the biggest issue in the world. Does make you wonder if they are either all bots or never leave the house.
I think the worst I can think of is people that just don't really understand, think its strange/confusing. But no one that is hostile to your existence. They will probably use the wrong terms, but they don't really mean to offend and even if they think it odd, they won't stop you from using a fucking toilet.
I suppose most people I know voted green though so it might be a sampling bias.
The UK is experiencing a surge in hate and violence against trans people, so it's for sure sampling bias. From what I've heard from others from your country it varies by city a lot how accepting people are
I wish I didn't know anymore IRL that cares about it. In laws and an aunt are right wing. I try not to be around them as they say heinous things when they get drunk. And they're always drinking.
American here. Aren't you worried about suffocating in that stall, without 1.5ft [50cm] gaps between the floor and the wall, and 1in [25mm] gaps around the door for proper ventilation?
It would probably be better to do repair work at home, or a workshop. Doing it in a bathroom stall you are likely to drop a small piece down the toilet.
I’m curious about the smell of these bathrooms compared to the ones with openings around the stall. The open stall allows better air flow, but that also means you’re getting a blend of everyone’s stench. These closed stalls seem like they’d hold a shit smell a lot longer, but you don’t have to share the smells with others.
I never notice a smell unless it's like someone literally pissed on the floor or something, which is not super common around here. I bet you they're probably ventilated.
I used to draw ventilation for businesses! So I dunno what the requirements are for public bathrooms like these, but bathroom stalls are generally required to be well ventilated. We usually always placed an extract vent right above the toilet
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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 1y
This is what toilets look like in civilised countries.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Well, actually, they're usually quite a bit wider. Especially if it's just the one. If there's many, it might not be that wide, but if there's just a single toilet, it will be built to specifications that dictate the door width to be enough to easily get into with a wheelchair.
Hell, we even apply that to outhouses.
That's a public toilet from a nature path/camping area not far away from me.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 1y
Or, like, don't look at people's genitals in the bathrooms. This is not a real problem. Public restrooms have managed to create privacy for as long as we've had public restrooms. Trans people aren't a new phenomenon, they're just the latest conservative scapegoat.
This is not a real problem.
SARGE@startrek.website · 16 pts · 1y
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
And just to be clear, no incidents related to creeps or pedophiles would be prevented by restricting trans people from using public facilities. Creeps are already breaking the law peeking at people. Creating a law just gives creeps a reason to bully trans individuals when they have to pee.
gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
you're gonna laugh at this but romans shat in companionship with their fellow people, like this:
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Exactly. No doors, no walls, just a big room with a trough, and zero visible genitalia.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Just a bunch of guys having a good time, not a phone in sight
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 34 pts · 1y
Isn't this just a normal toilet?
sexyskinnybitch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 1y
Not in the US. Most have stalls with walls that start about a foot off of the floor and end around 6' up.
nokturne213@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 1y
And have gaps between the wall sections and around the doors.
tempest@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
Yeah this would never work in the States since there is no dime sized gap where you can lock eyes with other patrons.
gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
oh, we have that too in europe, sometimes. idk why they do that, actually
cooligula@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
Afaik it's mainly for ventilation purposes. The openings on the bottom and top create a path for air to flow.
13igTyme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
We still have those, they are just less common depending on where you are. The most common bathroom type by far is single use bathrooms. This isn't really an actual issue, just a fact one made up by bigots.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
In the US, bathroom stalls are 5 feet tall, starting about a foot off the ground. There's very few, if any, floor to ceiling doors/ walls for bathrooms here.
The arguments are usually "drug users" or some other excuse, but it's a cost cutting thing. Cheap plastic walls are cheaper than actual walls.
Bieren@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1y
Galapagon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
Asking the real questions, how is this not the top reply?
troed@fedia.io · 19 pts · 1y
I see Europe
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 1y
In the UK, this is just what toilets look like.
Edit: and there's still a large opposition to trans people using toilets here
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 1y
Where is it though? I don't know anyone IRL that cares. And yet online apparently its the biggest issue in the world. Does make you wonder if they are either all bots or never leave the house.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
I know several IRL, I guess it's a matter of the people you hang out with.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1y
I think the worst I can think of is people that just don't really understand, think its strange/confusing. But no one that is hostile to your existence. They will probably use the wrong terms, but they don't really mean to offend and even if they think it odd, they won't stop you from using a fucking toilet.
I suppose most people I know voted green though so it might be a sampling bias.
will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
The UK is experiencing a surge in hate and violence against trans people, so it's for sure sampling bias. From what I've heard from others from your country it varies by city a lot how accepting people are
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y
I wish I didn't know anymore IRL that cares about it. In laws and an aunt are right wing. I try not to be around them as they say heinous things when they get drunk. And they're always drinking.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 11 pts · 1y
it's not a problem
it doesn't need solving
this wouldn't change anything anyways
A7thStone@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
But they don't wasn't to solve a "problem", they want to create one.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Looks a bit narrow but still preferable to the american bathroom stall.
sexyskinnybitch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
It's the same size, just more private.
hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 1y
And a hook upon which I can hang my bag and coat. Glorious toilet, this one. Good find.
dmention7@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
American here. Aren't you worried about suffocating in that stall, without 1.5ft [50cm] gaps between the floor and the wall, and 1in [25mm] gaps around the door for proper ventilation?
will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y
I didn't read the title and was very confused about why you had shared a picture of a bathroom for a while
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
Man, doing any sort of repair work in that stall looks like it would be a bitch.
nokturne213@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 1y
It would probably be better to do repair work at home, or a workshop. Doing it in a bathroom stall you are likely to drop a small piece down the toilet.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
I was more referring to the size of the stall. Very narrow, not a lot of space to maneuver.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1y
Agreed. Most of my table saws and furniture clamps couldn't be applied properly in there. I'll stick with my workshop.
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
wait whads the problm?...
BroBot9000@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
PaulBunyan@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
I’m curious about the smell of these bathrooms compared to the ones with openings around the stall. The open stall allows better air flow, but that also means you’re getting a blend of everyone’s stench. These closed stalls seem like they’d hold a shit smell a lot longer, but you don’t have to share the smells with others.
stray@pawb.social · 7 pts · 1y
I never notice a smell unless it's like someone literally pissed on the floor or something, which is not super common around here. I bet you they're probably ventilated.
will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y
I used to draw ventilation for businesses! So I dunno what the requirements are for public bathrooms like these, but bathroom stalls are generally required to be well ventilated. We usually always placed an extract vent right above the toilet