Rule of Tarth

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gift_of_gab@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 1y (5 replies)

As an AMAB them-fatale who found out they had male pattern baldness the day they came out, I, uh, I needed to hear this. 😭 EDIT: I really do appreciate the ideas and help, everyone, but I think we all misunderstood the assignment given the quote: "...femininity doesn't have to come from hair or any of those traditional female archetypes of appearance..." 😂 Thank you all though, I have happy tears reading your replies.

Aviandelight@mander.xyz · 13 pts · 1y (1 reply)

If it helps if your lucky enough to rock the bald look go for it. Bald is dead sexy regardless of gender.

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1y

Yeah, as a straight man who is generally attracted to more feminine features, there's a number of bald women I've find who rock the look and look amazing. Pretending like you're not balding is also one of the ugliest looks you can have. You know you are, and so does everyone else. You just have to accept it and make the best out of it, not fight it. This may mean wigs, or going bald, or both. The "comb my hair to try to hide it" look has tricked literally nobody and generally just looks like you haven't come to terms with it yet (which is fair, just not a good look).

blackstampede@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 1y

Copy black women's homework and start buying wigs.

psycotica0@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y

I don't know what your plans are, and I don't want to give you false hope, but if you're otherwise planning on taking hormones as part of your journey, you may find as others have that blocking testosterone, especially early into thinning, can reverse thinning. Because it's actually a testosterone problem.

But! There are lots of other side effects of this, so if it wasn't part of your plan, then nevermind!

And importantly, I'm sure you're lovely just the way you are, but I figured I'd mention it in case it's relevant.

SippyCup@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 1y

My pal, that sucks!

As it happens male pattern baldness is not exclusive to men. Female pattern hair loss is also a thing, AND they make all kinds of very neat wigs for women. There's all kinds of options out there.

drolex@sopuli.xyz · 42 pts · 1y (1 reply)

That's a good story! But you know who's got a better story? Bran the legless.

Too soon?

RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 1y

Bran the "oh right this guy"

merc@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I also love that they didn't give her "boob armour". She was one of the most interesting characters on the show, and her own views of femininity probably fed into her character's struggles with it.

I also think Tormund being obsessed with her was great. Her whole life she'd been mocked for being too tall and not feminine enough, then along comes this wild man who is completely obsessed with her just the way she is. But, I'm glad they didn't do the easy thing and just make her fall for him, and then the two live happily ever after.

Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 1y

Probably one of the few “realistic” (or somewhat realistic) feminine sets of armor in modern TV/movies

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Her whole life she’d been mocked for being too tall and not feminine enough, then along comes this wild man who is completely obsessed with her just the way she is.

It's Brigitte Nielsen vs. Flava Flav.

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 24 pts · 1y

And then she got cast as genderless Lucifer.

cyan_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 1y

She did an amazing Lucifer too!

ThePyroPython@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y

We stan a tall queen!

blarghly@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y (8 replies)

Okay, legitimate question - what is femininity outside traditional female archetypes?

Because my understanding is that it would be nothing. Femininity is literally nothing except culturally conceived female archetypes.

GraniteM@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

For Christie, she was associating femininity with traits that she struggled with possessing herself. She had been told that being small was feminine, being physically unimposing was feminine, and here she was living in a body much taller and stronger than society told her was appropriate, and yet she still wanted to feel feminine, so she cultivated her lovely long hair, a traditionally feminine trait that she could embody in herself.

But what it sounds like she discovered is that even playing a tall, strong, physically dangerous, short-haired woman, she could still feel feminine.

That speaks to gender, whether masculine or feminine, not being any of a list of culturally accepted traits, but rather an experience of the individual. If someone wants to be strong and physically imposing and still feel feminine, then that's their experience of reality, and it's no one's place to say otherwise. Same to say if someone wants to be gentle and nurturing and pretty, and still feel masculine; that's still their experience of reality.

StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y

I believe in this case femininity is what femininity is in the eye of Gwendolyn Christie. And what you might perceive as nothing might hold a bigger grasp over her day to day struggles.

shoki@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

If I'm understanding you correctly, you would say that (for example) having long hair == femininity is basically just a cultural construct, right?

In that case, one could argue that traits like a higher-pitched voice are female signs that aren't created by human culture but rather biology.

If I misunderstood you, please correct me.

RBWells@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

I agree with this, or at least it's how I use them. 'Feminine" is the forms, playing the game. As is "Masculine". Anyone can do these, like an actor, they are something you do, not something you are. An alien impersonating a human man would perform Masculinity. A man can, but it doesn't make him more manly, nor less so.

Womanly and Manly are what I use for the inherent differences, Womanly you are by being a woman (born that way or not), it's constantly evolving and we are all part of it. Gwendolyn Christie is womanly as fuck and doesn't need to play at being feminine. Especially as someone in the public eye, it's good that she doesn't, she sets an example.

gift_of_gab@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

Okay, legitimate question - what is femininity outside traditional female archetypes?

If I may infer from her quote, it sounds to me that she is saying not having a feminine trait does not remove one's femininity; the overall idea being that femininity isn't a checklist you have to have all of to 'pass'. Personally, I like Simone de Beauvoir's take that "one is not born, but rather becomes, a woman."

merc@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 1y (2 replies)

At the very least, we should be aiming for a world in which there is no such thing as femininity or masculinity. But, it really seems like the younger generations are doubling down on stereotypes.

blarghly@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Why should we aim for that?

Soleos@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

The simplified reason is that it creates a social world where anyone can be seen as a hero because they are courageous, or seen as a nurturer because they are nurturing, or a coward because they are cowardly, or a commander because they are commanding, and etc. Not because they happen to or not fit into a gender box that defines the attributes you're allowed to legitimately exhibit.

uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 1y

I've become bitter, but...

... given our current examples of IRL men being masculine (Donald Trump, Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan...

...and, in SoIaF, masculinity as Joffrey Baratheon perceives masculinity, and Gregor Clegane is seen as a paragon of masculinity...

Having human decency, or character integrity are feminine, or at least the opposite of masculine.

There are plenty of guys that have these features (though considering the gender breakdown of the 2024 general election, many that do not), but I wouldn't attribute them to what makes these guys men, rather what makes them mature or adults.

Just as truth and facts are left-leaning, maturity and character are feminine-leaning. It is why I am no longer a man (though I don't take offense at he, him pronouns).

GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1y
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theneverfox@pawb.social · -26 pts · 1y (7 replies)
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qarbone@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y

Thanks for sparing enough attention to comment.

Personally, I would be too distressed by the genocide happening in the same county[sic] as me to post a pointless comment on this on content that wasn't personally directed at me. But you must be made of different stuff than regular Joes.

StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1y

So sorry for your loss, but kindly GTFO of here with that random bad energy

Tiger@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y

Which country? Hope you can survive ok.

Genius@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 1y (3 replies)

And why aren't you out there fighting it??? Laziness, that's why. People are dying and you're scrolling on your phone.

theneverfox@pawb.social · 1 pts · 1y (2 replies)

What am I supposed to do? I'm trying to work with groups in my area to affect things locally and ringing the alarm bell for anyone that'll listen. Which isn't many, but I'm at least forcing people around me to confront the reality of what's happening, even if they mostly freak out and refuse to talk about it

Should I be making a martyr of myself right this moment?

Genius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

lmao I was just mimicking you. Take those arguments you used against my mimic of your arguments, and use those arguments against your original arguments.

theneverfox@pawb.social · 1 pts · 1y

Thanks. Real cool. Definitely the same thing.