Economists and industry executives say the hiring slowdown is also tied to post-pandemic overstaffing, aggressive cost-cutting, high interest rates and widespread hiring freezes.
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News editors: Let's go ahead and publish another "news" article about a TikTok video on an overhyped topic!
Yeah, these types of stories are advertisements directed at the landlord class. "Look, AI means fewer icky employees to have to put up with! At last, business without labor!"
The one where every LLM-generated shell script I read is another deep splinter in my fingernail quick that I have to rip out and destroy because it's a godfucked mess of bad practices that we can never ever ever ever EVER train out of an LLM at this point.
I honestly do not understand the absolute blatant ignorance of this seeming dichotomy of nobody wants AI or LLMs and AI is replacing our jobs and LLMs are making everyone stupid.
Almost all companies deploying generative AI don't see their revenue change significantly. AI is not the money maker people claimed it was going to be.
AI is not the money maker people claimed it was going to be.
When people make claims about what "AI" is going to do in the future they're talking about Artificial General Intelligence - not Large Language Models.
While I agree with you, its that very misunderstanding that bosses and owners have, and they'll fire regular folks and replace with ai. They may suffer lower quality and even catastrophic failures but it will take time for them to realise and rehire people. All those regular folks will be out of work during that time.
I am going to gleefully watch some of those companies burn when seniors retire or move on and there is no one left with enough experience to supervise AI code or beginner level coders.
Exactly, nobody is investing in their to-be seniors and dev culture.
Expecting ai-slop to make the difference is a fairy tale told to investors and board members.
I am not against any of our new devs (or myself, a longtime dev) using ai generated code but I expect them to understand it so they can fix it and build their skillsets. I tell them that renting their dev skills from a machine will do them no favors.
Ahh reminds me of when I was a fresh CS grad working at Dominos
Now they get to spend the next 5-10 years realizing they are slaves and everything adults have told them about the economy, work, and fairness was cope from those adult slaves.
Besides, let's not pretend this "AI replacing us all" narrative has any real lasting power. We see the same story constantly, company replaces workers with AI, company regrets it later. This AI sucks, it's not there yet. You don't really have to worry about it long term.
This means there's a lot of programmers who are available to work on other things. It's an opportunity for businesses to start and new programs to be made.
I'm sorry but if AI coding platforms have replaced you as a programmer then you were a bad programmer or were poorly educated and should just work at Chipotle.
Even college graduates need time to learn and build experience as they work up the ladder. A lot of theory and stuff someone might learn in college won't necessarily be what they'll find in the job world.
The ladder that starts at Chipotle is not one that leads to work in the field you studied for. College graduates who are struggling to find jobs would relish the opportunity to work up the ladder in their field, but there are insufficient entry level jobs.
You're so right. That's why I graduated with a degree in computer science with a 3.58 GPA whilst carrying my teams on projects and worked my ass off to apply to many jobs and internships during my education as well as learning additional skills not being taught to me on the side...only to be met with nothing but rejection after rejection without so much as an internview. Guess I should just work at Walmart for $14/hr because I'm a talentless hack that will never amount to anything. $70,000 well spent!
If you have a degree, you can work somewhere else besides Chipotle. It might not be in the field of your major, but it will be better paying than fast food.
I've tried applying for jobs that didn't really require my degree but was adjacent to it like data entry and help desk after graduating unemployed, only to be met with more rejection and failure. It's as if my degree doesn't exist.
Unless you have any suggestions for a job that only requires a non-specific degree, but I've heard having a degree in itself isn't valuable to employers at all unless it's related in some way to the job.
Either way, I'm trying to stay motivated to make projects on the side to hopefully refine my programming even further, but not only do I don't have any ideas for projects that don't already exist, but I'm not fully convinced that it will be worth the time. Especially considering every other attempt that involved working and studying for many hours have blown up in my face so far.
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iii@mander.xyz · 126 pts · 363d
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News editors: Let's go ahead and publish another "news" article about a TikTok video on an overhyped topic!
superfes@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 363d
They're just trying to make AI sound successful, just like the overlords want them to.
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz · 22 pts · 363d
I am more inclined to think they just want ragebait articles and AI is a current easy target
sundray@lemmus.org · 13 pts · 363d
Yeah, these types of stories are advertisements directed at the landlord class. "Look, AI means fewer icky employees to have to put up with! At last, business without labor!"
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io · 9 pts · 363d
Yeah this article is functionally an ad for coderabbit.
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 363d
It is successful. On what planet are you living?
Badabinski@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 363d
The one where every LLM-generated shell script I read is another deep splinter in my fingernail quick that I have to rip out and destroy because it's a godfucked mess of bad practices that we can never ever ever ever EVER train out of an LLM at this point.
iii@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 363d
Lemmy bubble stronk bubble :)
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 363d
I honestly do not understand the absolute blatant ignorance of this seeming dichotomy of nobody wants AI or LLMs and AI is replacing our jobs and LLMs are making everyone stupid.
iii@mander.xyz · -1 pts · 363d
The solution is that you are in a bubble. A lot of people like it :)
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 16 pts · 363d
Almost all companies deploying generative AI don't see their revenue change significantly. AI is not the money maker people claimed it was going to be.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 363d
When people make claims about what "AI" is going to do in the future they're talking about Artificial General Intelligence - not Large Language Models.
fuzzzerd@programming.dev · 7 pts · 363d
While I agree with you, its that very misunderstanding that bosses and owners have, and they'll fire regular folks and replace with ai. They may suffer lower quality and even catastrophic failures but it will take time for them to realise and rehire people. All those regular folks will be out of work during that time.
paulzy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 363d
The “journalist” credited’s bio literally says he is addicted to twitter as some kind of base of honor.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 363d
I am going to gleefully watch some of those companies burn when seniors retire or move on and there is no one left with enough experience to supervise AI code or beginner level coders.
GenXLiberal@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 361d
Exactly, nobody is investing in their to-be seniors and dev culture.
Expecting ai-slop to make the difference is a fairy tale told to investors and board members.
I am not against any of our new devs (or myself, a longtime dev) using ai generated code but I expect them to understand it so they can fix it and build their skillsets. I tell them that renting their dev skills from a machine will do them no favors.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 20 pts · 363d
Betcha wish ya'd fucking unionised now.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 363d
Ahh reminds me of when I was a fresh CS grad working at Dominos
Now they get to spend the next 5-10 years realizing they are slaves and everything adults have told them about the economy, work, and fairness was cope from those adult slaves.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 363d
What do you do now?
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 362d
System Admin
I wanted to make videogames originally. :/
Mbourgon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 362d
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 362d
Yeah i was willing to do it if it was livable because it was fun for me.
But it's like getting a CS degree to be a starving artist.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 362d
Yeah that's insanely competitive. I got a friend who wants to do game dev and has was struggling for some time.
huquad@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 362d
Kill your masters
reddig33@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 363d
Don’t believe everything you read in the NYPost.
spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 361d
Don't believe anything you read there.
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 14 pts · 363d
The “pick yourself up by your bootstraps” folks ordering a burrito. Bootstrap?
Harvey656@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 363d
If I pick myself up by the bootstrap, am I technically floating?
jbaber@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 362d
That was the original joke.
WaffleWarrior@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 363d
MycelialMass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 363d
What? Your friend hated your 20s??
Quadrexium@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 363d
My friend, absolutely hated my 20s? maybe?
MycelialMass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 363d
Oh that makes more sense lol
salty_chief@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 363d
Coding AI is like hold my beer. Folding an over priced burrito not so much.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 362d
Well, now they know what it's like to have a bachelor's degree in any other field. Welcome to the club.
If you want a guaranteed job right away, go into medicine, or plumbing, those are safe bets. I expect people will always get sick and need to shit.
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 362d
Once the peasants are all replaced by AI they won't need those jobs either
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 362d
The peasants will still shit, count on it.
Besides, let's not pretend this "AI replacing us all" narrative has any real lasting power. We see the same story constantly, company replaces workers with AI, company regrets it later. This AI sucks, it's not there yet. You don't really have to worry about it long term.
Don't mistake the weather for the climate.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 362d
Were quite a ways off from technician jobs get replaced at scale. Like some VC cunt can dream but good luck.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 362d
Why should I even try? If the job market is this bad. I've been struggling with this question.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website · 3 pts · 362d
if you start studying now, chances are the market will have improved when you graduate.
jollyrogue@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 362d
How was the interview? Did they pull questions from HackerRank?
Asking for me, because I’m an old CS grad in a bad job market.
uhdeuidheuidhed@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 361d
There's another side to this.
This means there's a lot of programmers who are available to work on other things. It's an opportunity for businesses to start and new programs to be made.
goatinspace@feddit.org · -18 pts · 363d
atticus88th@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 363d
I'm sorry but if AI coding platforms have replaced you as a programmer then you were a bad programmer or were poorly educated and should just work at Chipotle.
iii@mander.xyz · 34 pts · 363d
Everyone starts somewhere my dude
garretble@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 363d
Exactly.
Even college graduates need time to learn and build experience as they work up the ladder. A lot of theory and stuff someone might learn in college won't necessarily be what they'll find in the job world.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 363d
The ladder that starts at Chipotle is not one that leads to work in the field you studied for. College graduates who are struggling to find jobs would relish the opportunity to work up the ladder in their field, but there are insufficient entry level jobs.
BakerBagel@midwest.social · 32 pts · 363d
Pay no attention to the massive layoffs across the tech sector the last 2 years. Definitely the workers' faults
pirate2377@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 363d
You're so right. That's why I graduated with a degree in computer science with a 3.58 GPA whilst carrying my teams on projects and worked my ass off to apply to many jobs and internships during my education as well as learning additional skills not being taught to me on the side...only to be met with nothing but rejection after rejection without so much as an internview. Guess I should just work at Walmart for $14/hr because I'm a talentless hack that will never amount to anything. $70,000 well spent!
PacketPilot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 363d
reddig33@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 363d
If you have a degree, you can work somewhere else besides Chipotle. It might not be in the field of your major, but it will be better paying than fast food.
pirate2377@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 363d
I've tried applying for jobs that didn't really require my degree but was adjacent to it like data entry and help desk after graduating unemployed, only to be met with more rejection and failure. It's as if my degree doesn't exist. Unless you have any suggestions for a job that only requires a non-specific degree, but I've heard having a degree in itself isn't valuable to employers at all unless it's related in some way to the job. Either way, I'm trying to stay motivated to make projects on the side to hopefully refine my programming even further, but not only do I don't have any ideas for projects that don't already exist, but I'm not fully convinced that it will be worth the time. Especially considering every other attempt that involved working and studying for many hours have blown up in my face so far.
hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 363d
I haven’t even graduated yet for CS and I’m already in a weird IT stint.
FishFace@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 363d
I am software engineer, and the coding LLM we have is absolutely capable of doing a bunch of tasks you'd give to a new grad.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 363d
what a poorly educated and tone deaf response to a post that didn't ask for or need your opinion.
just because you have thoughts, doesn't mean you're free to share them.
atticus88th@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 362d
What an uneducated and pointless response to a comment that didn't ask for or need your opinion.
Just because you dislike the reality of our world doesn't mean it's not happening.
dil@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 363d
Or they did compsci degrees like most schools offer not software engineering and didn't actually learn how to code
atticus88th@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 362d
Judging by the replies here I think you are absolutely right.