US to take 10% equity stake in Intel, in Trump's latest corporate move. What are you thoughts on this from a privacy standpoint? I'm not close to being an expert on this tech, but can the US Government exploit this?
US to take 10% equity stake in Intel, in Trump's latest corporate move. What are you thoughts on this from a privacy standpoint? I'm not close to being an expert on this tech, but can the US Government exploit this?
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arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone · 25 pts · 354d
It's always laissez-faire capitalism until some big company has issues, then all of a sudden it's state capitalism.
Anyway, supposedly the government doesn't have a board seat, so it should have limited power. However, who knows what the unspecified "limited exceptions" are for it to be allowed to vote. I don't really think this makes much difference from the status quo other than the US being able to pressure Intel slightly more easily and further tying Intel to the US. However, it's probably something to watch in case the government starts trying to vacuum up other shares to gain majority control, voting power, etc. If something like that happens, I'd be wary of using consumer Intel products.
helloworld@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 352d
It is always about power. Always raw power and might.
bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net · 12 pts · 353d
pmk@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 353d
What do you use instead? Isn't AMD PSP similar to Intel ME and probably works the same?
bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net · 1 pts · 352d
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 354d
It seems to me that Intel themselves aren’t doing anything wrong here by letting the government take a stake in their business.
They never promised you privacy, they sell complex tiny calculators that add and compare ones and zeros trillions of times per second.
As a Mac user, I feel that it affirms Apple’s choice 5 years ago to design their own silicon. Apple made the right move.
Owners of current Intel chips should be fine. It’s future Intel chips I’d worry about. AMD is probably still fine. PC builders and enthusiasts still have a lot of good choices.
As for the government, I don’t really see how. 10% doesn’t give them enough clout to ask for a back door. The UK didn’t ask chip makers anyway, they went straight to Apple and asked for the encryption keys. Apparently they’ve dropped the request, but that’s not something that needs to be done at the CPU level. It’s also the government — they’re not gonna do it the best way. They’re not gonna do it the way a mad Linux geek would do it if they were a fascist dictator. Governments are still run by Boomers.
It’s more likely exactly what Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders say it is: the government is investing in Intel so their investment through the CHIPS Act pays off. It’s just good business sense. Set aside the president’s nationalism and look at it strictly as a business decision. It actually makes sense, hence why Sanders is behind it as well.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 354d
If they wanted a backdoor, making it a law to create backdoors in everything like China does would be so much easier.
This is 100% to juke economic stats and use taxpayer money to further inflate stock prices.
vk6flab@lemmy.radio · 6 pts · 354d
Seems like prima facie evidence evidence to me that Intel is about to go bankrupt. It reminds me of the "Intel Inside" warning labels of the 1990's .. seems like a good idea, until you realise that it's sinister and counterproductive.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 352d
I read: Corrupt gov plans to sell 10% of Intel to their billionaire buddies.
DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 354d
At least it's not a majority stake. Then it'll be bad.
dudesss@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 353d
What's a better alternative for a CPU
BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
AMD
sobchak@programming.dev · 1 pts · 354d
I do wonder what their angle is here. Collecting dividends to fund ICE while lowering taxes on the rich? Pumping Intel stock so insiders can sell? Although it's "passive ownership," the government will have voting shares, but they "promise" to vote with the board on most issues, with undisclosed "limited exceptions."
Tramort@programming.dev · 1 pts · 354d
so the Republicans are the communists after all
themurphy@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 354d
You are confusing socialism with communism.Socialism is owning infrastructure like roads, electricity and water supply etc.Communism is owning private entities with the goal of full control of all means of production.
This is a step towards communism and not socialism.
Edit: OP edited it to communism. I respect that.
themurphy@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 354d
I want to add:
That being said above, the US goal is not communism. It is to control all powerful companies like Russia does. I dont know what it's called, but it's not communism, as that will require no ownership at all.
This move by the US is also no different that China owning parts of Huawei.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 354d
State capitalism is when the government has controlling stakes/legislation in all major economic actors, ensuring they pursue government objectives, while still allowing the capitalists involved to extract the major share of profits.
A real world example is China.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 354d
They already control the companies. Top down orders occasionally come down making that clear
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 353d
"Communism is when Capitalism"
Sxan@piefed.zip · -11 pts · 354d
I love þat it's þe Republican party þat's pushing us to Communism.
Because þat's what public ownership of production is. Communism.
Trump is a communist. His supporters and are also communists.
People say þey hate þis timeline; I þink it's fantastic.