Without fail, wealth inequality worsens and never falls back to pre-recession levels.
Best we can do is cut into the blue collar maga base in a way they understand at their 4th grade selfish and aggressive predisposition: the rich are stealing your shit.
This is a very naive way of thinking that comes from a propagandized view of revolutions and ignorance of history on all the efforts that came before which allowed those revolutions to happen at all. It doesn't come together quickly. It is explicitly the result of having a community foundation and culture to build revolutionary effort on which took years of concerted effort to reach that point. Organizing doesn't happen spontaneously nor quickly. Anyone who told you otherwise was lying to you.
The ruling class has systematically been dismantling that very foundation since the Taft Hartley act.
The same risk of starvation that pushes people to revolution also pushes them to obedience to strongmen who promise to fix their problems by removing the "undesirables" who are being blamed for the misfortune. Without the proper working class culture of solidarity and a community foundation, people are more than likely just going to turn on their neighbors than they are to work with them, especially with the culture of hyper-individualism and xenophobia that the US has cultivated.
If we fail to build back that foundation, people are just going to sell each other out for their next slice of bread.
Once unemployment hits critical mass, there's a pull like a siphon. Enough people around to just, always make life hell for those in charge and that usually makes thing change. Then those trapped in employment all go on break at once, adding to the crowds. Happened before, will happen again. Almost happened during covid (thus the push to reopen business). This time we gotta push for a safety net and an end to fascism.
Oh, and since the fascists are in office it will be... bloody. That usually pushes people to act. Just gotta trust those around us. That's why you should go to protests. So you bring it closer to critical mass, the point, in numbers, beyond where the local cops are willing to escalate.
I remember seeing articles around 2016 about the wealth inequality of the US being more unbalanced than the conditions that led to the French Revolution. It has only gotten worse, and I'm seeing less class solidarity by the day.
The French Revolution was done by the predecessors of the rich of today. On the other hand there was this one German economist who predicted that the ever increasing economic crises would lead to the workers rising up.
America is not France. A war here would be exceptionally bad for everyone.
Edit: Apologies, I am American and appropriately self-centered. I was not even considering a global stage. I strictly meant modern America is a completely different stage than 18th century France, and just assuming that it will play out the same is a dangerous mindset.
Indeed. The technology of bread and circus is much better developed than back then. So it will take a whole lot more for the American poor to get up from their over-entertained and over-fed asses and revolt.
They promised really hard that they'd never do it again and would work really hard to fix things until everyone was distracted or until enough time went by. It's easy to do when you're in power for fifty or sixty years straight.
18 Comments
lennybird@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 348d
Recession has always been the point.
Rich get richer; everyone else gets poorer.
Without fail, wealth inequality worsens and never falls back to pre-recession levels.
Best we can do is cut into the blue collar maga base in a way they understand at their 4th grade selfish and aggressive predisposition: the rich are stealing your shit.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 348d
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 348d
I’m not convinced we could organize well enough to make that happen.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 18 pts · 348d
This is a very naive way of thinking that comes from a propagandized view of revolutions and ignorance of history on all the efforts that came before which allowed those revolutions to happen at all. It doesn't come together quickly. It is explicitly the result of having a community foundation and culture to build revolutionary effort on which took years of concerted effort to reach that point. Organizing doesn't happen spontaneously nor quickly. Anyone who told you otherwise was lying to you.
The ruling class has systematically been dismantling that very foundation since the Taft Hartley act.
The same risk of starvation that pushes people to revolution also pushes them to obedience to strongmen who promise to fix their problems by removing the "undesirables" who are being blamed for the misfortune. Without the proper working class culture of solidarity and a community foundation, people are more than likely just going to turn on their neighbors than they are to work with them, especially with the culture of hyper-individualism and xenophobia that the US has cultivated.
If we fail to build back that foundation, people are just going to sell each other out for their next slice of bread.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
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chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 348d
Once unemployment hits critical mass, there's a pull like a siphon. Enough people around to just, always make life hell for those in charge and that usually makes thing change. Then those trapped in employment all go on break at once, adding to the crowds. Happened before, will happen again. Almost happened during covid (thus the push to reopen business). This time we gotta push for a safety net and an end to fascism.
Oh, and since the fascists are in office it will be... bloody. That usually pushes people to act. Just gotta trust those around us. That's why you should go to protests. So you bring it closer to critical mass, the point, in numbers, beyond where the local cops are willing to escalate.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 348d
I remember seeing articles around 2016 about the wealth inequality of the US being more unbalanced than the conditions that led to the French Revolution. It has only gotten worse, and I'm seeing less class solidarity by the day.
rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 348d
The French Revolution was done by the predecessors of the rich of today. On the other hand there was this one German economist who predicted that the ever increasing economic crises would lead to the workers rising up.
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
America is not France. A war here would be exceptionally bad for everyone.
Edit: Apologies, I am American and appropriately self-centered. I was not even considering a global stage. I strictly meant modern America is a completely different stage than 18th century France, and just assuming that it will play out the same is a dangerous mindset.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 348d
Chopchop@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 348d
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Rothe@piefed.social · 3 pts · 348d
Indeed. The technology of bread and circus is much better developed than back then. So it will take a whole lot more for the American poor to get up from their over-entertained and over-fed asses and revolt.
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 348d
Recessions should be renamed to be more honest: it's a wealth transfer.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 348d
You'd think after the first couple, people would get rid of everyone in charge that brought them about instead of continuing to leave them in power.
gdog05@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 348d
They promised really hard that they'd never do it again and would work really hard to fix things until everyone was distracted or until enough time went by. It's easy to do when you're in power for fifty or sixty years straight.
don@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 348d
Oh, it’s not the first time I was thrown over a cliff, and it won’t be the last. What can I say? I’m a rebel.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 348d
MTK@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 348d
It's once in a lifetime because by the end of it you aged like 80 years
sad_detective_man@leminal.space · 3 pts · 348d
cygnus@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 348d
"I love recess, no cap fr fr"
qarbone@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
No, no, let's bring it off. Please.