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https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/fbi-how-to-blow-up-a-pipeline-b2324528.html

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7eter@feddit.org · 119 pts · 356d (1 reply)

Movie ads are getting smarter these days

RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 37 pts · 355d

nurunuru@leminal.space · 82 pts · 356d (4 replies)

sounds like it's the movie to see this year :~)

idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 355d (3 replies)
nurunuru@leminal.space · 14 pts · 355d (2 replies)

yeah...... I looked that up as soon as I commented haha

bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 355d (1 reply)

The audio book is on Spotify too.

Mysteriarch@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 355d

Not the same though - the book is non-fiction. Still great though. And no reason not to enjoy them together.

TRock@feddit.dk · 62 pts · 356d

FBI must not be familiar with the Streisand effect

Five@slrpnk.net · 54 pts · 355d (2 replies)

Even the right-wing reviewers who hate the premise admit it's a well written film in the vein of heist thrillers.

It's a really good movie. Not particularly useful if you actually want to destroy something - they were careful to get a consultant to make sure they didn't break any laws or create liability for themselves or the studio. If you didn't see it in theatre, you missed out! I'm really glad the feds are wringing their hooves over it, it deserved much better marketing. It is destined to become a cult classic.

hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net · 29 pts · 355d (1 reply)

Related, there's actually a rundown on a bunch of the opsec problems with it: https://anarchist-archive.org/library/en/hakan-geijer-popsec-how-not-to-blow-up-a-pipeline

It's a good story, and would be extremely bad to follow as a recipe. But it would be a good movie to watch with a very small group of like-minded friends.

Five@slrpnk.net · 20 pts · 355d

The beauty of it is -- the people you go with don't have to be 'like-minded.' You can enjoy Oceans Eleven without endorsing theft, you can enjoy HTBUAP without endorsing sabotage. If your friends feel it crosses a line, that's a very interesting post-film discussion: Why isn't it disturbing for people to root against the 'house' in Oceans? Is it okay to break the law to get rich, but not to do it for justice?

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 356d (8 replies)

one reason solar is a great energy source is it’s decentralized

MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 356d (2 replies)

But then a couple dozen bros can't hoard wealth and power. It's like you don't even care about the capitalists. Bruh

Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 355d (1 reply)

You already had me at decentralized, but now I am fully erect.

far_university1990@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 355d

Came

AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 355d (1 reply)

Also, How to blow up a solar panel seems a bit boring, honestly.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 355d

Those giant solar arrays where they focus all the energy up at one tower would be badass to blow up.

Don't do it, we desperately need more of those, but I imagine it would be sparkly.

sga@piefed.social · 1 pts · 355d (2 replies)
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Zachariah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 354d (1 reply)

all power sources have the same problem of centralized sources of materials and manufacturing, so it doesn’t make solar any worse than the others

but the other energy sources have the problem of centralization once they’re implemented

sga@piefed.social · 2 pts · 354d
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umbrella@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 355d (10 replies)
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dillekant@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 355d (7 replies)

It's a good movie, but like others have noted, this is not how you do it. 90% of blowing up a pipeline is community building, being able to get the gear you need and carry it out with a lot of people knowing and being able to trust that they won't rat you out. But it turns out when you have a community like that, well, you don't need to blow up the pipeline, you can just lobby the government.

jerkface@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 355d (1 reply)

I'm sure they're less worried about the "hows" of it all, than just the promotion of the idea in popular thought.

dillekant@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 355d

Yes, exactly this. The book by Andreas Malm had a review which read like "this book is less how to blow up a pipeline, and more why to blow up a pipeline", and the movie is working on a metaphorical level to argue the case. You're not meant to emulate it directly.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 355d (1 reply)

when you have a community like that, well, you don't need to blow up the pipeline, you can just lobby the government.

I haven't seen the movie yet; in which country is it set?

dillekant@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 355d

USA.

hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 355d (2 replies)

Lobbying is "begging for permission" from people who have been paid to not care. "Direct action gets the goods."

dillekant@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 355d (1 reply)

Lobbying, protest, etc. These are effective. Money matters less than you think*. Often organising gets the job done.

  • The US is a weird case there, but in general this holds.
hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 354d

Well, lobbying in the US means "bribing" and if you're just going to talk to them without money in hand they don't give a fuck. Since the film is set in the US, that kind of matters. Lobbying against oil anywhere in the world is basically just ignored. Again, direct action gets the goods.

Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 355d

It's on Hulu or was It's where I watched it not long ago and it was good.

umbrella@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 355d
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SirMaple__@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 355d (1 reply)

Hey FBI....

Wolf@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 354d

Is that Barbie Streisands house?

WrittenInRed@piefed.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 355d

waow (based based based) meme

Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 354d (1 reply)

I would like to thank the federal government for raising awareness that this movie exists. Wouldn't have happened without them.

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 354d

the book is also good

buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 355d (1 reply)

The producers of the movie: "Thank you for the free publicity! Now far more people will watch our movie than every would have otherwise."

Scavenger_Solardaddy@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 355d

The Streisand effect all over again.

hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net · 20 pts · 355d

Wow, I really hope no one writes "How to Blow Up a Fractionating Column With a $20 Drone." Pipelines are pretty easy to mass produce, but attacks on distillation towers like we've seen come out of Ukraine can knock out a refinery for years.

PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 355d (1 reply)

I liked it. Not exactly a "how to" movie but a nice escape fantasy. The East has similar eco terrorism vibes but it tries to focus on too much and misses the mark. HTBUAP is dead on focused on destroying a pipeline and tells that story well.

Valmond@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 355d

So do they destroy the pipeline or merely damage a part of it?

PhoreTwunny@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 355d (1 reply)

Someone please make "How to dismantle the Federalist Society"

ngdev@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 355d

and violent video games inspire kids to become murderers

humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 355d (2 replies)

haven't seen it, but trailer very good: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21440780/

Anyway. explosives. detonator optional. Fire can work.

lemmyknow@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 355d

I enjoyed the movie. I like how it shows concrete ways in which people can be affected by the matter at hand. Not a "polar bears on thin ice" or similar, but actual effects on everyday people (not that polar bears don't matter)

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 355d

I don't say carry sand in your pockets because pocket sand shashasha. Well not just because that. It's because of the OSS Manual of Subtle Sabotage.

ohellidk@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 356d

Oh no, how awful........

Wolf@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 354d

Boy, it sure would be a real shame if people did that sort of thing. Like tragic even. Hell I might even shed a tear! (If I'm chopping onions when I hear about it)

barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 355d (3 replies)

Have they put it up on a torrent tracker?

shalafi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 355d (1 reply)
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 355d

commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 355d

it's available through a lot of libraries through kanopy

lmdnw@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 355d

Hopefully.

Coolkat@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 355d

Great movie btw

kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 6 pts · 354d

It seems that government agencies recommend very good stories with their warnings and bans.

Technotica@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 354d

Should have called it "How to 'Not' blow up a pipeline".

Would probably have fooled the powers that be (stupid).

millie@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 352d

Wouldn't blowing up a pipeline just be like, an ecological disaster? Or is this a pipeline that isn't active yet?

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 355d

I'm sharing it on soulseek if anyone wants it. Use nicotine++, better client.

commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 355d

cool

macafouchette@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 355d

Maybe don’t bring this book