The former president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro, has been sentenced to 27 years and three months in prison after being found guilty of plotting a military coup.
A panel of five Supreme Court justices handed down the sentence just hours after they had convicted the former leader.
They ruled he was guilty of leading a conspiracy aimed at keeping him in power after he lost the 2022 election to his left-wing rival, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.
108 Comments
Kapirotto@lemmy.ml · 284 pts · 327d
And the judges didn't bend for the US sanctions. I hope this becomes an example for the world.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 114 pts · 326d
That was an absolutely fucking admirable sight to behold. So fucking happy they didn’t cave, and told the regime to eat shit and fuck off.
whiwake@lemmy.cafe · 149 pts · 327d
Now do Trump
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 326d
No, we needed to heal and let him run again so he could finish the job of stealing the election.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 326d
We are still trying to heal from it. Maybe we need to give him a third term. Just rip up the constitution and use it as toilet paper (the actual one in Washington)
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 326d
we should let him steal the washington monument to put his name on it and use as a buttplug (i did not check the base for flaring, please remove any flaring)
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 326d
PAGEant pervert, nooo
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
What a terrific idea
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world · 109 pts · 327d
@ United States of America, that's how you fucking do it.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 327d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 326d
only beat me to the meme by, uh, 16 hours
Carmakazi@lemmy.world · 97 pts · 327d
He'll be 97 when he gets out, if he lives that long.
Good riddance.
Dagnet@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 326d
Eh, wouldnt be hard to get it reduced tbh, I doubt he will actually stay there for 27 years. But Ill take what I can get
PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 326d
You'd think attempting a coup would warrant a total block of any reduction in the length of sentence, but oh well.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 326d
The only thing that should be reduced is the length of the rope.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 326d
Think positive. He could be sentenced for more crimes he definitely committed
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 326d
Dagnet@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
Will still be capped so even at 40 years max, his lawyers will be trying to get him released with 20 or less years in jail for good behavior or what not
logi@piefed.world · 3 pts · 326d
20 or less will make him up to 90 years old. It'll do.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 326d
FYI: South Korea's former president got pardoned by her successor after her impeachment & removal & imprisonment. (The one back in 2017, not the recent 2024 one)
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 326d
okay i'm taking notes. when we rebuild the republic, impeachments can't be pardoned.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
Another turning point, a fork stuck in the road
oce@jlai.lu · 87 pts · 327d
On the less positive side: one of the judges disagreed with everything, tens of thousands of supporter were supporting him in the street when the ruling happened, parliament allies are trying to make an amnesty law for him. I hope Brazilian people keep fighting for their democracy hard because the attacks will never stop.
morto@piefed.social · 52 pts · 327d
I can't speak for the whole country, but at least in my city, it's notable how bolsonarism has been losing energy. I know people who were strong supporters who are not caring for him anymore and less and less people are talking about him in public places. I believe today's news will deliver another strong blow against this collective madness, and the slow improvement in the economy since last elections will bring more people back to supporting the left parties, at least the worker's party.
bassomitron@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 327d
Once the online propaganda/psyops funding dries up, it's amazing how quickly the masses move on from a controversial figure. That's why I don't think the MAGA infection that the US has will last long without billionaires continually pumping their bullshit. There'll always be cultists, but I even remember seeing how quickly most folks moved on after 2021, only for a resurgence around late 2023 when lots of billionaires flooded his campaign coffers.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
Problem is our billionaires are all in. And also, their fortune comes from the propaganda machines (social media).
It’s not great.
It would help if we become the next North Korea though.
oce@jlai.lu · 7 pts · 326d
Good to hear!
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 326d
As an American I find it difficult to understand how a working justice system can convict a criminal.
quant@leminal.space · 8 pts · 326d
As a non-american posting from one of those 3rd world shitholes Trump talked about, you guys deserve way better.
Ioughttamow@fedia.io · 53 pts · 326d
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 326d
When Brazil respects democracy more than America.
We're fucked, y'all.
carrylex@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 326d
Sounds like a 4% of world population problem.
From my perspective: So far the best SOAP that I ever watched. The episode yesterday with the gun sidestory was insane.
jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 326d
regardless of how you feel the united states falling to a fascist regime affects everyone on the globe the same way the industrial power of germany falling to fascism was cause for global war.
frankly, you are espousing the one of the most ignorant opinions i’ve ever heard. i’m not saying this because in some pearl clutching american. im saying this because you seem to have no idea about how cause and effect play out on a world stage.
keep feeling safe and acting like none of it matters. your country isn’t immune to what’s happened here, and it’s certainly not immune to a fascist american military. you’re no better than the 60-ish% of americans who complacently have allowed the current status quo to come to pass.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 325d
The didn't get to vote on it
carrylex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 326d
Well I'm just leaning back and grabbing my popcorn because I already watched this shitshow for over 4 years and I have to deal with it for another few years.
Trying to tackle this situation with logic or realism is clearly not working and just drives people insane so I'm doing this approach which is at least funny and not constantly depressing ^^
IronBird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 325d
i don't fault you for feeling this way, there are a lot of people feeling the same right now. like all of the establishment-politicians here in the US.
fhey think MAGA will die with Trump, and Trump's days are numbered, i'll be surprised myself if he makes it to the end of the year. they're banking on a "return to normalcy" where they can go back to ratfucking the country in peace with their brothers across the chamber...
...this...won't happen, imo. MAGA is here to stay, and a lot of people are in for a rude awakening when things don't "return to normal". after trump dies, slowly but surely people are gonna look around and wonder wtf happened to their county/state/country...
the big what-if here is how establishment-dems act (where they don't just continue to lose elections), do they give even the pretense of caring about this country and bend the knee to facism all in the name of that all-mighty dollar (then, the far-right leopards start eating evermore faces), or do they make way for the progressives who just want the 1% to pay their fair share in taxes...
group_hug@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 326d
HyperNormalisation
mcv@lemmy.zip · 42 pts · 326d
See, America? That's how you do it. Learn from Brazil.
MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 326d
apparently brazil's government is more functional than USA's
mcv@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 326d
"More functional than the USA" is a low bar, though. And rapidly getting lower.
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 326d
Bolsonaro has been sentenced to 27 years and three months, Trump was elected for his second term. Now who is bigger democracy? Maybe because Brazil plays REAL football?
iamanoldguy@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 327d
Brazil showing the U.S. how it's done.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 326d
If the US had done this after Jan 6, they would have saved themselves a lot of trouble.
Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 326d
potato_wallrus@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 326d
Americans:
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 326d
Life in prison effectively. If only we could start putting our leaders in jail for their crimes.
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 326d
Brazil gets to sit at the table with Iceland on the list of countries who jailed the people responsible for almost torpedoing thier own country. (In Icelands case, it was the bankers involved in 2008s financial crisis)
smayonak@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 326d
The right wing is still powerful over there. The Supreme court judge who voted to acquit bolsanaro is still a member of the court. All it takes is a broken judiciary to enable fascism. And Brazil could easily go in that direction again if the fascists win control again.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 326d
It's nice to see traitors held accountable for their actions. Maybe one day the US will take note.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 326d
MORE OF THIS!
njm1314@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 327d
Meanwhile Merrick Garland somewhere is sitting happy as a pig in shit.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 326d
I remember all the people on reddit in 2020 who were loudly insisting that Garland was just biding his time and making sure that the case against Trump was ironclad before moving against him. I'd say lol but it's obviously not funny.
potato_wallrus@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 326d
If he was American, he would've just gotten another term
Unpeeled3828@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 326d
So basically Brazil is less of a banana republic than the USA.
arsCynic@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 326d
If only The Big Short ended like this. Well done Brazil!
steeznson@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 326d
27 years seems pretty lenient given what he was convicted of. I realise that he'll probably never be free given his age but I don't think that the defendent's age should affect the sentence, especially when they still have their supporters like Bolsonaro.
ConstantPain@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 326d
The age was taken into account.
WildPalmTree@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 326d
never be free
Sweet summer child...
steeznson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
I thought he was in his 70s? Maybe you know more about the Brazillian justice system tho.
WildPalmTree@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
I'm not saying anything about his age. I'm assuming, which I maybe should not, about the politics of many political systems. I'll give it 3 years, plus/minus 3 years.
steeznson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 326d
Idk either tbf. Maybe being pessimistic is the smart move here.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 326d
You think they will parole him or convert it to house arrest?
WildPalmTree@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 325d
Jupp.
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 327d
How delicious.
MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 326d
mfw corrupt as hell Brazil is less corrupt than the USA.
fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 326d
Hahahahaha!
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 9 pts · 326d
Basically a death sentence. He won't live long enough to serve his full sentence.
ripcord@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 326d
A life sentence. Not a death sentence.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 5 pts · 326d
What I mean is he is no longer going to be a threat and he will die in prison.
Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 326d
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 3 pts · 326d
I hope not.
Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 326d
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 326d
And nothing of value was lost.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 326d
Infuriating
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 326d
abir_v@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 326d
He's 70, most likely way out for him is a casket.
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 326d
60 days to file, 5 to appeal after the filing, yadayadayada.
He's still basically out on bail, don't act like he was remanded into custody today, people.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 326d
Now do Donny 2 Inches !!
mrdown@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 327d
Seems really low
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 326d
Give the Brazilian Supreme Court judges US passports ASAP!
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 327d
Should be longer considering it's a crime against the entire population of the nation.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 326d
20 years in many jurisdictions is a life sentence. The reason is, after 20 years, the world has changed so much, you got no idea what to do with your life.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 326d
He's 70, so this sentence is likely life in prison for him, unless he gets parole or some other bullshit like that, which he does not deserve. Make an example out of those who try to fuck with the democratic process or you end up like US today.
MichaelHawkinSnider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 327d
It must be nice.
ganksy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
Yaassss!! Rot in there!
Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 326d
Ooo Brazilian prison
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -26 pts · 327d
Weird that judges decide the verdict instead of a jury. Is that normal in Brazil? Seems very abusable.
Nils@piefed.ca · 29 pts · 327d
Brazil uses Civil Law, as many other countries do, not Common Law as in the USA.
Brazil does have the concept of Jury, but this case fits a different criterion.
There are some conditions for a jury in USA as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juries_in_the_United_States
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 326d
Woah, crazy, all of the sea people fall under the system of Halakha? TIL
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 326d
/c/mapswithoutgreenland
kadup@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 326d
Your pedophile insurrectionary ex-president is free and president again.
Ours was just condemned to 27 years in prison.
Are you really in a position to comment on our judiciary system?
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -6 pts · 326d
Not because of juries lol. The issue is the corrupt political actors. If citizens had that power instead I believe it would have been different.
Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 327d
Normal in most countries. I wouldn't trust jury of inept people to understand evidence provided to them.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -6 pts · 327d
I trust them more than corrupt politicians.
coriza@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 326d
Are judges in the US elected? I know some are appointed. In some countries they are career public servants. They pass an exam and dispute with other candidates, so they are experts in their field that went in a public selection process.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 326d
Some are elected, yes. But at a certain level of power everyone becomes a politician.
oce@jlai.lu · 13 pts · 327d
Isn't it the case of every Supreme Court? Which one has a jury?
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -3 pts · 327d
The Supreme Court doesn’t usually decide people’s sentences though. They might rule on a technical issue arising in a trial but not decide the verdict or sentence. At least, that’s how it works in the US.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 326d
i love how you're correct and people are downvoting you because they listened to a podcast
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 326d
Lemmy seems to have interpreted my comment as some kind of pro-US nationalist position. Which is ridiculous but whatever I don’t even try to figure out or worry about what will anger people here anymore.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
I'd say we need to be friends but it seems we already are
Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 326d
In Brazil, only murder cases go to jury trial, but even then, it's very different from the US. Here, jurors can interview witnesses and there's no deliberations between them, they go one at a time to a room with the presiding judge and cast a secret ballot, simple majority convicts or not. All other crimes are decided by the judge from the bench.
Oh, and our judges don't use gavels...
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 326d
Good protection against Banksy ...
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -1 pts · 326d
Interesting, thanks for the information. I’m a big fan of jury trial personally but I hope that system works well for you.
meliante@lemmy.pt · 10 pts · 326d
How's that working out for you?
Why do you assume that if it's how it's done in the USA then it's the best way?
Fucking USAians and their arrogance.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -2 pts · 326d
lol people are so hostile. The US definitely doesn’t do things well most of the time but juries do work pretty well in my experience.
meliante@lemmy.pt · 2 pts · 326d
That's rich. A USAian saying people are hostile. In the days after a major hostile motherfucker got a sudden fountain open in his neck.
Get out of here. Fucking having the audacity to question the justice system in other countries because "in my experience". Loser.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -1 pts · 326d
I was literally asking for people’s input because I don’t have experience with their legal system. But I guess you’re so intent on making everyone your enemy that you had to interpret it in the most negative light.
Questioning things in a polite, inquisitive way is good. Going off on people for questioning things is deranged behavior.
Also, I wonder if you are aware that people from other countries are individual humans with different opinions and behaviors on things? It seems not. What a very sad and myopic outlook.
meliante@lemmy.pt · 0 pts · 325d
Yes, very polite. Starting with calling how it's done in other places weird and finishing with accusing it of being just plain corruption.
Face it asshole. You're just a regular USAian thinking the world is that poor excuse of a country and everything else is worse.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 325d
Nope. You don’t know shit about me. Fuck off.
Is this how you treat everyone from other countries? I’ve heard tell that many Europeans are xenophobic but I didn’t realize it was this bad.
meliante@lemmy.pt · 0 pts · 325d
No, just arrogant USAians.
We're not trying to build walls and ICE acts over there. Saying Europeans are xenophobic. Do you have the faintest seed of an idea of how fucking idiotic that is?
clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 326d
Brazil uses civil law system like Europe... no need for juries
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 326d