I'm still really conflicted about this situation...
Yes it's good that his influence in this world is gone but it sucks that it had to be through his death. Also the assassination and the praise for it only fules the fire for the opposite party and goes quite hard against democracy even if it's good that he's gone...
Yet I can 100% understand the need to reach for a gun when your own freedom (and by proxy your entire life) is on the line.
I wish he hadn't been shot. Empathy (and self preservation) make me think of the similar and likely situation of a trans person being murdered because of their perceived ideology.
I don't want to live in a place where people are killed for their beliefs.
I'm aware of the paradox, and that it wasn't high caliber ideas in the 2nd world war that defeated Nazis, but rather bullets.
Regardless of the sentiments going around, the US is not currently at war with itself. I would rather not get to that point if it can be helped. Call me naive, but I think civil war can still be avoided.
And you don't think violence is an appropriate response to fascist tyranny?? What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you just going to politely get in the gas chamber? Where's the fucking line for you?
Not everyone needs to go out and shoot a Nazi but let's be respectful of the people who actually put their life on the line to rid the world of evil.
First of all, I think violence is an appropriate response. That doesn't mean I have to wish there was more of it. Is it going to be necessary? Almost certainly. But anyone who wants violence should take a long hard look at themselves.
Civil war would lead to starvation, infanticide, rape, and other atrocities. Are horrible things already happening? Obviously. Do you really think there is something "wrong" with someone who doesn't get off to the idea of more suffering?
We probably agree about more than we disagree, and I don't think anything I said warrants such hostility. That's all I'll say.
Keep up the good work. One small suggestion: start attributing these quotes you're leaving on all these various posts to the shithead that said it. Even better if you link directly to the source so the nazi's can't wiggle out with denial.
He also lashed out at the gay community, denouncing what he called the “LGBTQ agenda,” expressing opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”
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Supervisor194@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 357d
Heaven forbid.
schnokobaer@feddit.org · 15 pts · 357d
Who??
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 357d
MSM is sanewashing him.
IndieSpren@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 357d
The only msm article I found not sanewashing him is the guardian's one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs
SquishedFly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 357d
I'm still really conflicted about this situation...
Yes it's good that his influence in this world is gone but it sucks that it had to be through his death. Also the assassination and the praise for it only fules the fire for the opposite party and goes quite hard against democracy even if it's good that he's gone...
Yet I can 100% understand the need to reach for a gun when your own freedom (and by proxy your entire life) is on the line.
Kayday@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 357d
I believe the world is better without this man.
I wish he hadn't been shot. Empathy (and self preservation) make me think of the similar and likely situation of a trans person being murdered because of their perceived ideology.
I don't want to live in a place where people are killed for their beliefs.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 357d
Morality is not so straightforward. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Kayday@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 357d
I'm aware of the paradox, and that it wasn't high caliber ideas in the 2nd world war that defeated Nazis, but rather bullets.
Regardless of the sentiments going around, the US is not currently at war with itself. I would rather not get to that point if it can be helped. Call me naive, but I think civil war can still be avoided.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 357d
There are armed masked thugs on the street disappearing people with no rule of law. What is that called if not a war?
Kayday@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 357d
Fascist tyranny, but I wouldn't consider it war.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 356d
And you don't think violence is an appropriate response to fascist tyranny?? What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you just going to politely get in the gas chamber? Where's the fucking line for you?
Not everyone needs to go out and shoot a Nazi but let's be respectful of the people who actually put their life on the line to rid the world of evil.
Kayday@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
Wow, rude.
First of all, I think violence is an appropriate response. That doesn't mean I have to wish there was more of it. Is it going to be necessary? Almost certainly. But anyone who wants violence should take a long hard look at themselves.
Civil war would lead to starvation, infanticide, rape, and other atrocities. Are horrible things already happening? Obviously. Do you really think there is something "wrong" with someone who doesn't get off to the idea of more suffering?
We probably agree about more than we disagree, and I don't think anything I said warrants such hostility. That's all I'll say.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 357d
I agree. Are we sure that is why Kirk was killed though? Could it possibly be for any of his actions?
Kayday@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 357d
Possibly? Maybe he slept with the shooter's wife.
Shortstack@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 357d
Right in the neck! Gnarly
errer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
This story is gushing with detail!
rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 357d
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 357d
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
Keep up the good work. One small suggestion: start attributing these quotes you're leaving on all these various posts to the shithead that said it. Even better if you link directly to the source so the nazi's can't wiggle out with denial.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 357d
No one decent is.