Yeah agreed. I honestly don’t take enough pictures to care about the camera. I do occasionally play games on my phone so I get stuck with the bump because those are the ones that can play games. I too wish for larger battery.
But the reason they insist on going with the bumps is because people expect the phone to take a decent photo. They can probably make one without the bump but it is unlikely that most people would buy it (or be happy with it).
I mean, if the entire phone was made the same thickness as the camera bump, that would give more room for a larger battery and more powerful components, and frankly, it would still be a pretty thin phone, and easier to handle (oh, and they could put the fingerprint scanner back on the back where it's convenient and reliable)
People don't want to lug a camera all over the place just in case they want a good photo, they want to be able to make a decent photo with the small brick that they always have with them anyway
And I am one of them. While I might not care too much about the highest quality pictures, I would still appreciate better ones if possible
Because reviewers started obsessing with zero bezels and thinness, so manufacturers had to also maximize those things.
I saw a laptop review where there was a hole punch camera, so no mechanical shutter. The yt personality thought that was stupid, so they asked the manufacturer what they were thinking. "Our last product had the shutter but you gave it a poor review because the bezels were too big. We designed for smaller bezels to get a better review"
Check out Ulefone. They have a line of phones with 15-22Ah batteries. My phone weighs 1.4lbs. I always have streaming video playing, and I recharge every 3 days.
Quick question. Does your ruggedized phone have a transflective LCD display? I'm just now doing some quick searches and am seeing the technology only being unsed in ruggedized (non-touchscreen) laptops.
I'll take a break from my usual crippling cynicism to say that I'm still impressed that they figured out how to make decent optical zoom lenses thinner than two or three quarters and slap it onto a super computer that fits in your pocket. Smart phones really are incredible (stupid design trends aside)
If you took the internals of a modern flagship(especially the foldables) you could rearrange it into a sub 6 inch(body, the screen would be a bit smaller even) and sub 10mm thick phone without sacrificing anything. But because companies have an obsession with making phones 5mm thick right now thats what the whole industry is doing.
my favorite phone i ever had was the gimmickiest phone i ever had. the selfie camera popped up out of the top. i don't even take selfies it just reminded me of my 80s convertible i learned to drive in what had pop up headlights.
Thought they had internal mechanisms that self destruct non-explosively if the charge goes down far enough, but I can't for the life of me find where I read that originally, or Anything that corroborates it. Best I can find is chemical damage that happens automatically if it drops below 2.5v.
The Z Fold 7 in a nutshell. I love how it's so thin that it just looks and feels like a normal phone when folded (without sacrificing battery life too), but the camera bump is comically large. It wobbles like crazy when when sitting on a flat surface.
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SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 56 pts · 346d
I want a larger battery and flush camera.
Vupware@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 346d
Flush camera seems like such a boon, I don’t know why the major manufacturers insist on these abhorrent bumps.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 346d
People demand that their phones take decent pictures, and that’s really difficult without focal length. Which in turn is really difficult to decrease.
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 346d
Yes, decent, as in just ok. I want more battery. If I want amazing photos, i would buy a camera.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 346d
I shopped around for a camera, my only requirements were pocket size (easy) and open-point-shoot quickly, like in a couple of seconds (impossible).
I double tap my volume button and take a photo in 1-2 seconds with my phone, Leika lense stuff (not obnoxiously potruding), way enough for me.
Would love a really small fast camera though, but waiting 15-20 seconds for it all to whirr together takes like the fun out of it for me.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
Yeah agreed. I honestly don’t take enough pictures to care about the camera. I do occasionally play games on my phone so I get stuck with the bump because those are the ones that can play games. I too wish for larger battery.
But the reason they insist on going with the bumps is because people expect the phone to take a decent photo. They can probably make one without the bump but it is unlikely that most people would buy it (or be happy with it).
laurelraven@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 345d
I mean, if the entire phone was made the same thickness as the camera bump, that would give more room for a larger battery and more powerful components, and frankly, it would still be a pretty thin phone, and easier to handle (oh, and they could put the fingerprint scanner back on the back where it's convenient and reliable)
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 346d
People don't want to lug a camera all over the place just in case they want a good photo, they want to be able to make a decent photo with the small brick that they always have with them anyway
And I am one of them. While I might not care too much about the highest quality pictures, I would still appreciate better ones if possible
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 345d
So make the entire phone the same thickness and make use of the extra space
lemming741@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 345d
Because reviewers started obsessing with zero bezels and thinness, so manufacturers had to also maximize those things.
I saw a laptop review where there was a hole punch camera, so no mechanical shutter. The yt personality thought that was stupid, so they asked the manufacturer what they were thinking. "Our last product had the shutter but you gave it a poor review because the bezels were too big. We designed for smaller bezels to get a better review"
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 346d
Check out Ulefone. They have a line of phones with 15-22Ah batteries. My phone weighs 1.4lbs. I always have streaming video playing, and I recharge every 3 days.
VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 346d
Quick question. Does your ruggedized phone have a transflective LCD display? I'm just now doing some quick searches and am seeing the technology only being unsed in ruggedized (non-touchscreen) laptops.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 346d
Just a standard IPS LCD.
https://www.gsmarena.com/ulefone_armor_24-12602.php
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub · 42 pts · 346d
I'll take a break from my usual crippling cynicism to say that I'm still impressed that they figured out how to make decent optical zoom lenses thinner than two or three quarters and slap it onto a super computer that fits in your pocket. Smart phones really are incredible (stupid design trends aside)
VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works · 38 pts · 346d
Awe, man. It's going to totally ruin this phone case bit...
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 19 pts · 346d
Not going to lie that is fucking hilarious.
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org · 18 pts · 346d
and i hate it so fucking much
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 346d
Unfair Phone
No1@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 346d
idk, i've been calling phones that look like this 'Safety Hammer'
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 346d
Not available in my country.
winkly@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 347d
Amogus?
spykee@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 345d
Go outside man.
Touch some grass.
Touch some soil.
Heck, touch yourself.
Get help and realise that the world is beyond Among them.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 346d
If you took the internals of a modern flagship(especially the foldables) you could rearrange it into a sub 6 inch(body, the screen would be a bit smaller even) and sub 10mm thick phone without sacrificing anything. But because companies have an obsession with making phones 5mm thick right now thats what the whole industry is doing.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 346d
my favorite phone i ever had was the gimmickiest phone i ever had. the selfie camera popped up out of the top. i don't even take selfies it just reminded me of my 80s convertible i learned to drive in what had pop up headlights.
nieminen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
OnePlus 7?!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
it had great speakers and that gimmicky camera. i think i had the 7 pro
Jimb@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
Yep, that’s the 7 pro - I had one, too. It was perfect for me because I never took selfies.
levzzz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
I loved the design of that one
nieminen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
Yeah had that before the 11, liked the 7 more. But the cameras on the 11 are great.
Phone's still in my drawer, but the battery is shot
Benaaasaaas@group.lt · 2 pts · 346d
Not to be the party pooper but having a dead lithium battery in your drawer might not be the wisest thing.
nieminen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
Thought they had internal mechanisms that self destruct non-explosively if the charge goes down far enough, but I can't for the life of me find where I read that originally, or Anything that corroborates it. Best I can find is chemical damage that happens automatically if it drops below 2.5v.
missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 345d
will old cellphones become UXO for gen alpha?
Psythik@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 346d
The Z Fold 7 in a nutshell. I love how it's so thin that it just looks and feels like a normal phone when folded (without sacrificing battery life too), but the camera bump is comically large. It wobbles like crazy when when sitting on a flat surface.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 346d
Honestly, I just want a phone that fits snugly in my hand and is usable with just one hand. It doesn't even need a touch screen.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 345d
There's still a lot of "dumbphones" on the market.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 346d
Holy hell that slayed me…
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
It’s like the ultra-thin TVs that are only meaningfully thin if you bust a hole in your wall for the business end to recess into.
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
And they usually suck really bad if you need to mess with the cables. No room for my pudgy fingers
blackn1ght@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 345d
"Compact" phone - 6.3"