Jeff Goldblum's Jurassic Park monologue feels appropriate here.
"You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew it you had it. You patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunch box, and now your selling it!"
Not universally true— with my healthcare network there is a consent form that allows you to decline the use of AI for online appointments, and for in-person they request verbal consent. I make sure to decline every time.
Just wanted to share so that people can check if opting out is possible (for now at least).
Meanwhile the guy who breached a Finnish therapy database and held 33,000 records for ransom just got out of prison after serving around 2 years of a 6 year sentence:
i think that the worse thing about this is that the people committing the same crime are made millionaires and will never receive any sort of comeuppance for it.
Prisons shouldn't be cruel and unusual. If you think Finnish prisons are so good compared to being free in your country... what do you think that says about your country?
Finland to financial criminals victimizing the entire country:
Finland to the actual victims:
(Hi from Canada where the courts do the same thing and then get all high and mighty about being "progressive" and "rehabilitative" when the victims express their grievances)
were you talking also about poisoning the training data?
two distinct (but imo highly worthwhile) things
tar pits are a bit like turning the tap off (or to a useless trickle). fortunately it’s well understood how to do it efficiently and it’s difficult to counter.
poisoning is a whole other thing. i’d imagine if nothing comes out of the tap the poison is unlikely to prove effective. there could perhaps be some clever ways to combine poisoning with tarpits in series, but in general they’d be deployed separately or at least in parallel.
bear in mind to meaningfully deploy a tar pit against scrapers you usually need some permissions on the server, it may not help too much for this exact problem in the article (except for some short term fuckery perhaps). poisoning this problem otoh is probably important
You know, as with a lot of these tech advances that impinge upon privacy and put us at risk in the name of profit, the buy-in, the thing they're offering in exchange, IS actually pretty worthwhile. This is extremely useful. It's such a shame that all this cool Star Trek shit that I would have been giddy about as a kid has been realised, but at a sinister and often hidden cost.
Is there any way this can be done on local metal? Would it achieve the same level of accuracy and sophistication of the progress notes? Because if this can be offered to the therapists that wanted it enough in the first place that they either knowingly or unwittingly sacrificed their patient's privacy for it, maybe they can be given an alternative.
I think nothing stands in the way of doing this on local metal, as far as technology goes. Something similar has already been achieved for personal photo sorting, e.g. https://ente.io/
23 Comments
obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 34 pts · 331d
I also hate that there is never an option to opt out of this service either.
muxika@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 331d
Jeff Goldblum's Jurassic Park monologue feels appropriate here.
"You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew it you had it. You patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunch box, and now your selling it!"
Albbi@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 331d
Great quote!
32 year old movie... I love/hate when old movie quotes are more relevant today than when the movie came out.
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 330d
Sure you can. Just, you know, don't need therapy.
doinky@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 330d
Not universally true— with my healthcare network there is a consent form that allows you to decline the use of AI for online appointments, and for in-person they request verbal consent. I make sure to decline every time.
Just wanted to share so that people can check if opting out is possible (for now at least).
solrize@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 331d
Meanwhile the guy who breached a Finnish therapy database and held 33,000 records for ransom just got out of prison after serving around 2 years of a 6 year sentence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vastaamo_data_breach
rabbitcat@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 331d
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 330d
i think that the worse thing about this is that the people committing the same crime are made millionaires and will never receive any sort of comeuppance for it.
rabbitcat@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 330d
True.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 330d
Prisons shouldn't be cruel and unusual. If you think Finnish prisons are so good compared to being free in your country... what do you think that says about your country?
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 330d
rabbitcat@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 185d
rabbitcat@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 330d
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 330d
Finland to financial criminals victimizing the entire country:
Finland to the actual victims:
(Hi from Canada where the courts do the same thing and then get all high and mighty about being "progressive" and "rehabilitative" when the victims express their grievances)
irmadlad@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 331d
I wonder how hard it would be to set up an AI honeypot that attracted AI scrapers, but all the data contained in the honeypot was poisoned.
XenGi@feddit.org · 22 pts · 331d
Pretty easy. It's called a tar pit.
irmadlad@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 331d
Ding! I just didn't have the proper verbage.
Related link
ganymede@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 331d
tar pits target the scrapers.
were you talking also about poisoning the training data?
two distinct (but imo highly worthwhile) things
tar pits are a bit like turning the tap off (or to a useless trickle). fortunately it’s well understood how to do it efficiently and it’s difficult to counter.
poisoning is a whole other thing. i’d imagine if nothing comes out of the tap the poison is unlikely to prove effective. there could perhaps be some clever ways to combine poisoning with tarpits in series, but in general they’d be deployed separately or at least in parallel.
bear in mind to meaningfully deploy a tar pit against scrapers you usually need some permissions on the server, it may not help too much for this exact problem in the article (except for some short term fuckery perhaps). poisoning this problem otoh is probably important
ganymede@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 331d
mondomon@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 330d
This is really bad. We don't need Palintir getting a hold of our private health info. My damn doctor is even using this shit.
prex@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 331d
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 330d
Those who were too paranoid to visit a shrink were justified all along.
StarMerchant938@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 331d
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 330d
This is why I self medicate with cannabis instead of going to therapy. Never have to worry about my dumbass high thoughts getting stolen. /s /s
bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 331d
Haha, because of my notes AI will finally be defeated!
Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 331d
You know, as with a lot of these tech advances that impinge upon privacy and put us at risk in the name of profit, the buy-in, the thing they're offering in exchange, IS actually pretty worthwhile. This is extremely useful. It's such a shame that all this cool Star Trek shit that I would have been giddy about as a kid has been realised, but at a sinister and often hidden cost.
Is there any way this can be done on local metal? Would it achieve the same level of accuracy and sophistication of the progress notes? Because if this can be offered to the therapists that wanted it enough in the first place that they either knowingly or unwittingly sacrificed their patient's privacy for it, maybe they can be given an alternative.
Novocirab@feddit.org · 3 pts · 330d
I think nothing stands in the way of doing this on local metal, as far as technology goes. Something similar has already been achieved for personal photo sorting, e.g. https://ente.io/
DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 330d
Thank god mine still uses paper notebook.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 330d
Don't worry everyone, I've undiagnosed myself. Everything is okay. I'm fine. This is fine.