Tucker Carlson says Trump admin using Charlie Kirk’s killing to trample free speech
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-trump-charlie-kirk-free-speech-b2829584.html
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Zephorah@discuss.online · 161 pts · 346d
This is what I keep saying. When our we going to We The People on this?
Kimmel didn’t even say anything about Kirk he criticized the machine trying to create a narrative.
Who he really criticized was Trump. He showed the clip of how mournful Trump was. A reporter asks how he’s doing with the death and he waves a hand dismissively saying “Im fine” and in the same breath starts waxing poetic on the ballroom he’s building.
THATS why Kimmel was suspended.
unmagical@lemmy.ml · 30 pts · 346d
Even his critique of the MAGA side could be applied to pretty much everyone:
I think everyone knew there's political benefit to the shooter not being on "their side" and many people actively pointed to evidence that indicates he wasn't. Kinda didn't help that the shooter basically turned out to just be some dude with no obvious affiliation.
It just so happens that there's one political party that controls every aspect of the hill and who's been clamoring to suppress dissent that make them an obvious stand-in for the subject of the joke when anyone else coulda been seamlessly slotted in.
It's infuriating that this is how we're losing our freedom of speech. The most milquetoast, unprovoking recognition of the state of things. He didn't even call the fascist Nazi president a fascist Nazi--just described him as being like a child and that was enough.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 346d
It is so fucking bizarre because it has been a favorite American past time to hate the president. Motherfucking Trump tried to float the idea that Obama wasn't even an American citizen. That is a hundred more times disrespectful than anything that has been done to Trump.
Trump constantly talked shit about who was President. Why the fuck does he think he deserves some special kind of respect he refused to give anyone else. He is the worst kind of snowflake crybaby man child I have ever seen.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 12 pts · 345d
This is how Cluster B Personality Disorders work. Narcissistic type is a fragile snowflake that creates a false reality and freaks out / throws abuse when anyone contradicts that reality. Worse, if they’re exposed for what the ly are. The difference with Trump is he has a following playing up that false reality to an entire nation.
Trumps behavior is not bizarre, it’s Cluster B doing Cluster B things, on script.
The problem is he’s been ramping up on power grabbing and this is step one of suspending the bill of rights.
modus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 345d
That's what baffled me. I watched the episode and couldn't figure out what he said about Kirk that was so bad.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 345d
The video https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115223084434305207
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca · 89 pts · 346d
vegeta@lemmy.world · 87 pts · 346d
What timeline am I on?!!??
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 45 pts · 346d
His whole empire is built on hateful rhetoric, so while he supports the right thing it is not necessarily for the right reasons.
Also it is important to point out that Kimmel didn't really say anything about Kirk, he simply made fun of trump being over Kirk in just 1.5 days and when being asked about him, he changed topic to his ballroom.
Kimmel didn't say anything hateful only showed that trump doesn't give a flying fuck about Kirk and exploits him to consolidate more power.
dotslashme@infosec.pub · 23 pts · 346d
Pretty sure all of them have merged into a single one, cause no single one can be this weird.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 19 pts · 346d
The Kimmel thing is a nail in the American coffin. If conservatives don’t rise on this it will be the final nail.
Just use the bill of rights as Trumps next diaper because that’s all it’ll be good for if this stands.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 346d
Fascists don't care about hypocrisy or logical consistency. They call socialism the devil, yet "worship" Jesus.
mcbenavides85@piefed.social · 11 pts · 346d
Zephorah@discuss.online · 1 pts · 345d
Is that happening?
mcbenavides85@piefed.social · 2 pts · 345d
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 346d
The next National treasure movie will have Nick Cage looking for clues on it like a Rorschach test
Zephorah@discuss.online · 2 pts · 345d
At some point I should probably watch that movie, for the cultural kitsch if nothing else.
Nougat@fedia.io · 5 pts · 346d
Dogs and cats: living together.
thehowlingnorth@lemmy.ca · 46 pts · 346d
Tucker's still on Putin's payroll, and he and Orangina are having a little lovers' quarrel.
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 346d
Foundations of Geopolitics. It doesn't matter how hand in hand the two dictators are, Pootis not missing a chance to stir the pot.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 345d
What the hell is with these right wing sycophants like Tucker and McConnell coming out and criticizing the regime when they were part of the driving force that pushed us to this point?
BC_viper@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 345d
Honestly I've never agreed with him until he left fox news. I'm sort of wondering if he had to tow the company line before and now he doesnt. He was definitely part of the problem and should not be pardoned for it, but he has not been throwing the fox rhetoric for a while now.
PraiseTheSoup@midwest.social · 10 pts · 345d
toe*
BC_viper@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d
I dont like it but I accept the correction.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 345d
There really isn’t enough credit given for humbleness. Thank you.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 345d
TIL
https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/pardon-the-expression/toe-the-line-vs-tow-the-line/
Boiglenoight@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 345d
He’s a Russian foreign asset.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 345d
Fixed. Ass(et).
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 345d
Its definitely the evil Russian billionaires. Our good, patriotic american billionaires would never spend billions to promote an ideology that privileges them.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · -11 pts · 345d
Yes yes, of course. Russia, Russia, Russia. Complete fact-free fringe lunatic conspiracy theory nonsense, but hey, whatever floats your boat. I think he's a cryptid Sasquatch from Mars. Has about as much truth to it.
Or maybe he's a Adipose like in Dr Who? That's it! He unzips his human suit at the end of the day to let the farts out!
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 345d
Hey everyone. Huge Nerd is a Bot w/ no feelings. Let it have your best/worst. Just know it is troll account. It isn’t a person behind that account. I think one would just be arguing w/ an ai entity. Let us get it to kill itself so it will quit posting stupid shit.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 345d
Time Cube guy looks sane and rational compared to you howling basket cases.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 345d
Putin and Murdoch aren’t always on the same page.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 345d
Ahh, those lovers quarrels are soooo passionate aren’t they?
minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 345d
It's all about, and ALWAYS about the grift. See if it makes sense now. Flip where the flop flows. And the money comes in. It's always the grift. It's literally the true American dream.
Except here Carlson doesn't realize that he is already marked for the Dachau.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 345d
Ooooooo. Sizzle Snap! Damn. That’s really a good one. Hats off & one of those hand diddly bows of appreciation. Have my upvote & please allow me to buy you a pretend cocktail. 10/10!
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 345d
Confusing magic F—kery.
just_another_person@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 346d
I fucking HATE when monsters like the piece of shit make a good point I agree with.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 346d
I guess payroll at The Kremlin stopped issuing those checks & bonuses to a certain little spoiled rich boy.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 345d
I think they just switched their marching orders to cause chaos in the republican party.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 345d
Hmmm, I reckon I could see that angle.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 345d
Yes yes, big bag potato come every week, da. God the lunacy of some people.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 345d
Yes yes, lunacy believes potato bag will come some day. You, I like! Comrade Understand all problems? Yes you do! Let me buy huge nerd drink yes. No, Not question. I buy huge nerd drink yes. Huge nerd drink? I say, huge nerd drink? Yes?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 345d
The Zoloft's hitting hard today?? Don't forget: Russians can take several shapes including trees, blankets, refrigerators, even carpets! This is how they have infiltrated your poor victim of a country!
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 345d
https://youtu.be/DmHv6y4HQbA
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 345d
https://youtu.be/-zUA5zFZ3h4
RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIAAAA RUUUUSSSIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHGRHGHRGRHGRHGRHGHRR
You guys are pathetic.
In the meantime you have your entire political class licking rocks in your greatest ally in the Middle East: crickets.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 344d
I could agree with you but then we’d both be wrong.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 344d
Actually you are correct. It’s not Russia per se, it’s Putin & Co.. There, fixed. Can we be nice now?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 344d
This guy?
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/putin-and-bush-in-common-cause-russias-view-of-the-terrorist-threat-after-september-11/
My god, I just realized Russia has grocery stores AND shopping carts. Their evil truly knows no bounds. I'll bet Putin personally knocks one wheel out of alignment himself on every cart with a hammer and a sickle.
Were you equally as upset during any of your insane invasions and international murder sprees over the last 25 years? What am I saying, you're supplying the weapons for one right now!
I just want to know where the American moral high ground comes from, wagging your finger at everyone else while your arm is elbow-deep in dripping blood.
Just spare us your hypocritical nonsense about Russia while you gleefully cheer on death and destruction.
CptOblivius@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 346d
Wait til Tucker learns how we got the Patriot Act....
yesman@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d
Just keep in mind that the big split on the right is whether Kirk was murdered by trans-antifa or "the Jews".
Besides, Tucker works for Putin and any political turmoil is good for America's enemies.
assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 345d
Something must be wrong with me. This is the second time I have found myself agreeing with old tuckester here this year. I must be unwell. I’m going to go to my doctor this week.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 345d
There’s nothing wrong with you; it’s not uncommon to share some ideals with people across the full political and social spectrum.
Even ol’ Tuckey here can be right every once in a while - even if the rest of the time he’s an otherwise unredeemable arse.
assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d
It still doesn’t stop me from feeling incredibly gross though. The thought of agreeing with him makes me shudder.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 345d
I mean a broken clock is right twice a day.
RiceBowl@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 345d
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
stonedtemplepilot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 345d
Tucker Carlson is a propagandist for the Kremlin. Broken clock and all that.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 346d
The Russian puppet is right for once!
foggy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 346d
It's almost like Russia wants to sow discord and is doing it through compromised individuals.
MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 345d
someone forgot to send him his check this month
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 6 pts · 346d
What is he going to do about it? Will he put even 1% of the effort he used to denigrate Obama for supposedly taking away our rights? He's got a shitload of money he could use to help, but won't.
C1pher@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
That's how it always happens. Makes you think if this all wasn't "orchestrated", but lets not get... into conspiracy theories.
ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 345d
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
swords@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
grissino@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 346d
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fluxion@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 346d
Tucker 2028!
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
/s
I hope