Luigi Mangione calls the death penalty unconstitutional in a court filing critical of Pam Bondi

https://www.businessinsider.com/luigi-mangione-death-penalty-unconstitutional-2025-9

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ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 131 pts · 349d (23 replies)

I think Luigi needs to do more speaking out. He needs to run for office once he's acquitted.

sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 85 pts · 349d (2 replies)

If there's any sign of that happening, they'll definitely kill him

Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 349d

He has already shown he would die for our rights. If he would be good with it i would still vote for him.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 16 pts · 349d
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axexrx@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 349d

He should run for president then immediately claim immunity based on the courts trump rulings.

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 349d (3 replies)

Is there a law against running for office while imprisoned?

laurelraven@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 349d

Nope

bigfondue@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 348d (1 reply)
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pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 348d

Ferb, I know what we're going to do today

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · -23 pts · 349d (14 replies)

Why would he be acquited?

Edit: when a question gets downvoted you just might be too emotionally fragile to be online

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 349d (2 replies)

I downvoted you just for your petulant little edit.

raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 349d (1 reply)

Same

stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 348d

Well I upvoted them just to balance the score out and give paying spectators value for money

ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 349d (6 replies)

He's innocent

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 349d (5 replies)

This is always a wild one to me, he did it and hes a hero for it, stop erasing his badass act. It’s such a fringe conspiracy that not even Luigi has endorsed it

abruptly8951@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 349d (4 replies)

Allegedly..he hasn't admitted to anything afaik.. and as far as I've seen the evidence is flimsy ..why would he escape and then hang out in a fast food restaurant with the disposable murder weapon?

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 13 pts · 349d (3 replies)
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But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 349d (2 replies)

This community is super fascist about dissent

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 11 pts · 349d
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lolrightythen@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 349d

If a jury of his peers do not choose to convict.

uhmbah@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 349d

Why would he be acquited?

I up voted because who the fuck would assume any practical result where USA is concerned.

It's naive to think that Luigi has any future in a fascist country.

interdimensional_sharts@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 349d

Only downvoted for your edit.

Projection, my friend.

axexrx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 349d

To answer your question in a non facetious way, there's a phenomenon called the csi effect. Essentially, juries expect csi levels of ironclad proof that tends to make it much harder than expected to convict.

Combined with the high profile and over politicisation and publication of the case, i see it damn near impossible fornthem to find 12 jurists who will unanimously find not only enough evidence, but not have a refuser based on sociopolitical contexts- much like how OJ walked on the LAPD's corruption.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 45 pts · 349d (4 replies)
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uss_entrepreneur@startrek.website · 50 pts · 349d (3 replies)

At the state level yes. This is for the federal charges.

Grass@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 349d (2 replies)

I love how a ceo dies and its federal charges, but a podcaster dies in front of people and even though he's getting way more support as of yet its not federal

muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 348d

The feds haven’t found a way to blame trans people for that one yet.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 348d

he was getting too much support from the right wingers too, so MSM did thier best to not report about luigi.

shalafi@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 349d (4 replies)

Missing something here. How are the feds prosecuting for murder when murder has always been a state charge? In any case, is this not double jeopardy?

sik0fewl@lemmy.ca · 35 pts · 349d (2 replies)

I think because he fled across state lines. It seems like a stretch to me, but I am not a lawyer.

LodeMike@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 349d (1 reply)

That is a stretch.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 349d

Not that much of a stretch. Since a state may refuse to arrest someone who committed a crime in a different state if they are sympathetic to said crime (especially a concern when USA was split between slavery and anti-slavery states), the feds can have jurisdiction in these cases, since otherwise it may involve a dispute between states. It makes at least some sense...

If you want to see a real stretch (aka completely made up bullshit), look up how feds justify growing marihuana for your own consumption (not sale) somehow involves interstate commerce.

homura1650@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 349d

Double jeopardy does not apply to facing federal and state charges under the dual sovereign doctrine. It does not really make sense, but that's the law.

Sunshine@piefed.ca · 34 pts · 349d (3 replies)

It is banned in most countries. Poor man had to be in America.

Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com · 7 pts · 349d (2 replies)

Would he have had casus belli in a civilized nation?

Huschke@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 349d (1 reply)

Certainly not.

Just like Walter White would have had no reason to sell drugs because he would have gotten his cancer treatment for free.

America really is just that country.

laurelraven@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 349d

I look forward to the day we hopefully get to where that show just confuses younger generations because no civilized society would have allowed those circumstances to exist in the first place

bluemite@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 349d

Has nobody told him the constitution doesn't matter anymore?

Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 348d

Why's he doing the zoolander face though?