Because the disruption is the point. Not fixing a problem. It’s literally in the CIA’s manual, and I guess the mods really don’t want folks to know that. Pretty suspicious.
Thanks I know what it means but there is no existing antifa group, right? I understand a lot of people on lemmy consider themselves anti-facist and that's nice but they're not members of an organized group.
What I'm getting at is the executive order is targeting something that doesn't actually exist irl. I'm guessing this EO is a reaction to protestors in Oregon during Trump's first term who were wearing masks and calling themselves antifa. Was it a real organization then? Seemed like a bunch of kids to me with no actual leadership structure.
There actually are many groups in the US which have "Antifa" in their name: for instance Rose City Antifa, NYC Antifa, Philly Antifa, Atlanta Antifa, among many others. Obviously this new (completely unprecedented btw) "domestic terrorist organization" designation is also going to be used against many people who aren't affiliated with any such group.
Since it isn't a real thing, they have all the space required to define it by deciding who is and who isn't. They'll just keep saying people are antifa without evidence or proof. Once gossip and opinion started being treated as fact, this became inevitable.
Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government, law enforcement authorities, and our system of law.
If those institutions are fascistic then fuck yeah!
Wasn't it one of the founding principles of our government that it can be overthrown and reinstated as the people see fit?
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
47 Comments
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 97 pts · 351d
I am sure antifa HQ will be alarmed with this news
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 351d
Emergency Soros checks going out today!
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 350d
I'd like to designate mine to total the amount of $10,000,000 please.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 350d
The president of Antifa won't be getting any sleep tonight, that's for sure.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 350d
Antifa LLC stonks plummeting.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 351d
I guess this is the technical admission that the government is full-on fascist
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 350d
It is.
And most Americans won't realize it has happened until it personally affects their lifestyle, which will be far too late.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 350d
bagsy@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 351d
anti anti fascist == fascist
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 62 pts · 351d
dhork@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 351d
And branding the Democratic Party as the political branch of Antifa
noscere@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 350d
Man I wish I was living in the timeline where the Democratic Party was the political branch of Antifa.
Hylactor@sopuli.xyz · 36 pts · 351d
Huh?
khannie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 350d
It's a good oxymoron alright.
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 351d
I am Antifa.
Also, executive orders aren't laws.
Rusty@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 350d
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -8 pts · 350d
Please don't post pictures of text. Blind people can't read this message.
Rusty@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 350d
It's a political cartoon. I don't think I can post it as a text.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 350d
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 350d
You could write a description of the image and put it in the alt text like this
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 350d
procapra@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 350d
There is certainly something to be said about people asking for someone to fix something rather than fixing it themselves.
It wasn't exactly hard to just comment on the image what was said. Multiple people pretty much did this.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 350d
Because the disruption is the point. Not fixing a problem. It’s literally in the CIA’s manual, and I guess the mods really don’t want folks to know that. Pretty suspicious.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 0 pts · 350d
Of course you can. Explain what you see like you would to a blind person.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 23 pts · 351d
Oh America...
Get it the fuck together.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 351d
It seems that we can’t. When we are gone, please learn from our example, and strive to make the world a better place.
teagrrl@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 351d
Ridiculous.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 350d
This is where they start disarming, kidnapping and disappearing us for being against fascism. Let the witch hunt begin
Dogyote@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 350d
Does antifi have any real organization? It's not a real thing is it?
DegenerationIP@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 350d
Dogyote@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 350d
Thanks I know what it means but there is no existing antifa group, right? I understand a lot of people on lemmy consider themselves anti-facist and that's nice but they're not members of an organized group.
What I'm getting at is the executive order is targeting something that doesn't actually exist irl. I'm guessing this EO is a reaction to protestors in Oregon during Trump's first term who were wearing masks and calling themselves antifa. Was it a real organization then? Seemed like a bunch of kids to me with no actual leadership structure.
DegenerationIP@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 350d
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 350d
There actually are many groups in the US which have "Antifa" in their name: for instance Rose City Antifa, NYC Antifa, Philly Antifa, Atlanta Antifa, among many others. Obviously this new (completely unprecedented btw) "domestic terrorist organization" designation is also going to be used against many people who aren't affiliated with any such group.
DegenerationIP@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 350d
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 350d
There are many antifa groups. Anti fascist action is best preformed in groups. It's dangerous work.
See also "affinity group"
coltn@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 350d
...wait.... you aren't paying your monthly antifa membership dues?
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 350d
We should kick him out if he's not paying, how else will we stay organized?
He can go join the fascists.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 350d
It's not an organization. It's a boogeyman they're using to try to justify imprisoning and murdering liberals.
StuffYouFear@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 350d
Welcome to McCarthyism
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 350d
Since it isn't a real thing, they have all the space required to define it by deciding who is and who isn't. They'll just keep saying people are antifa without evidence or proof. Once gossip and opinion started being treated as fact, this became inevitable.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 350d
They've already said that it's a named organization. So nobody is Antifa.
Maybe next Trump will declare the Illuminati a terrorist organization.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 350d
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Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 350d
Guess I'm a terrorist now.
razzazzika@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 350d
We all are, apparently.
Confidant6198@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 349d
kingofras@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 350d
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 350d
I'm a terrorist now, I guess
Tangentism@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 350d
If those institutions are fascistic then fuck yeah!
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 350d
Wasn't it one of the founding principles of our government that it can be overthrown and reinstated as the people see fit?
Edit:
Source: Declaration of Independence
limer@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 351d
Poor Aunte Fa, we barely knew her
dan1101@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 350d
About time someone stood up for the poor fascists.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 350d
Everyone reading this should be arming themselves and everyone they know as fast as possible.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 350d
Bro there is no Antifa. And the only people who should be scared of Antifa are fascists
Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 349d
SMH Declaring the fictional antifa a terrorist organization while leaving real organizations like EVIL on the table.
NK0lceK4nOrl2@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 350d
Christopher@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 350d