Exactly. There never was a doubt that a company like Dassault could build such a plane alone, but that, given the Rafale experience, it is financially unviable to do so.
I do not arise enough to value the Eurofightter in particular, but that there are things to improve does not mean that we should give up improving them, breaking with everything and continuing each one by their side
Not sure if /s, but just in case: The Gripen engine (the „power plant“) is built under license and derived from the General Electric F404 engine, which means that the US basically has a veto vote on who SAAB can sell the Gripen to. Replacing that engine with a european-built (be it Dassault or Airbus or whatever) alternative would make the Gripen a much better plane given the current state of affairs.
Essentially yes. The reason why the engine in a fighter jet is referred to as a power plant is that it does more than merely provide propulsion - it also generates the energy required to drive all the other systems of the plane, some of which can be pretty power hungry. Radar in particular.
Of course they can. But just because they can doesn't mean they should. They are already in a public debt crisis, why add hundreds of billions more to that.
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theolodis@feddit.org · 22 pts · 337d
Well, Airbus could also build it alone, I think the idea was to have multiple companies involved for having the profits distributed.
AAA@feddit.org · 12 pts · 337d
And multiple countries to distribute the costs.
Quittenbrot@feddit.org · 3 pts · 336d
Exactly. There never was a doubt that a company like Dassault could build such a plane alone, but that, given the Rafale experience, it is financially unviable to do so.
remon@ani.social · 3 pts · 336d
But Airbus is partly French ...
Foni@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 337d
They may be able to, but they shouldn't. We need a European army and that requires a military industry that stops thinking about old borders.
varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 336d
But we all remember the desaster with the Eurofighter. Outdated and unusable for real scenarios other than reconnaissance missions since release.
Quittenbrot@feddit.org · 11 pts · 336d
Not sure if /s
The EF Typhoon is in service with four large European airforces, among others, and has seen a wide range of deployments in its operational history.
Foni@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 336d
I do not arise enough to value the Eurofightter in particular, but that there are things to improve does not mean that we should give up improving them, breaking with everything and continuing each one by their side
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 7 pts · 337d
Just build a replacement power plant for the SAAB Gripen, please.
Defectus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 336d
They need more electricity?
tavostator@feddit.org · 3 pts · 336d
Not sure if /s, but just in case: The Gripen engine (the „power plant“) is built under license and derived from the General Electric F404 engine, which means that the US basically has a veto vote on who SAAB can sell the Gripen to. Replacing that engine with a european-built (be it Dassault or Airbus or whatever) alternative would make the Gripen a much better plane given the current state of affairs.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 0 pts · 336d
Essentially yes. The reason why the engine in a fighter jet is referred to as a power plant is that it does more than merely provide propulsion - it also generates the energy required to drive all the other systems of the plane, some of which can be pretty power hungry. Radar in particular.
Defectus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 336d
That makes sense. I thought they didn't have enough power to produce the planes. Which would be strange XD
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 336d
It's pretty field-specific terminology, and I can certainly see how it could be confusing for anyone who doesn't know about the reason for it.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 336d
France has a history of demanding control in international projects.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 6 pts · 336d
Of course they can. But just because they can doesn't mean they should. They are already in a public debt crisis, why add hundreds of billions more to that.
plyth@feddit.org · 4 pts · 337d
Come on, France24, spill the tea. What is the actual conflict line?
Melchior@feddit.org · 2 pts · 337d
Just merge with some German firms and then Dassault can built it in Germany. Something like Hensoldt would be a good target.