The UN Voted to Make Food A Human Right, Only Two Countries Voted No: Israel and USA
https://medium.com/@hrnews1/the-un-voted-to-make-food-a-human-right-only-two-countries-voted-no-israel-and-usa-2f887b2c81f6
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Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world · 112 pts · 343d
Fuck. We're the baddies.
All the so called christians that voted for this. They should be ashamed, but I'm not sure they can even feel shame.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 343d
That's the beauty of Christianity.
It can be exploited to make you feel correct no matter your worldview.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 6 pts · 342d
One of the biggest reasons it spread so far.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d
Correct. Even the four gospels themselves don't agree on the character of Jesus, so it's a simple matter to pick-and-choose the bits that support your particular worldview.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 342d
Also all the genocide.
Huschke@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 343d
Isn't Christianity the religion where it doesn't really matter how bad you are? In the end the love for Jesus fills up you entirely and before your final moments you become good.
I vaguely remember learning something like that.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 343d
All ya gotta do is believe in Jesus and ask for forgiveness right before you die and you get into heaven, no matter what you've done lol.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 343d
Not if you kill yourself.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 12 pts · 343d
Maybe you can almost kill yourself and then ask for forgiveness before you die of internal bleeding.
end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 343d
New Testament God Hates This One Trick!!!
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 341d
In Catholicism, the act of taking one's life is considered the ultimate sin, and dying due to it excludes one from heaven.
frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 342d
That’s not told a punishment, but a disincentive from people doing such.
astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 342d
Depends on your type of Christianity. The debate between salvation through faith and good works or salvation through faith alone is as old as the Reformation.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 343d
This is not about 2025 American politics. Think in terms of game theory, pure logic, drop your morals. If you're you the baddest dude in the hood, why would you let weaker men trap you into binding agreements that might bite your ass down the road? All risk, no reward, foolish.
America won't be a real member of the international community until we are militarily and economically forced into the role.
See the gathering of generals and the warlike speech yesterday? They know we're slipping economically. Only way to counter, for a fascist, is military might. Once you've built your power on a single man never being wrong, forging ahead no matter what, there is no turning back. Plus, our leader is a dementia addled old man. All he understands is kicking ass and lording power and money over others. God knows what he'll do or say next, but you can count on that behavior.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
It's really funny that as an atheist, I have more faith in the teachings of Jesus(charity, don't be a dick) than the so-called followers of Christ.
DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 343d
The saddest thing is that I'm not shocked in the slightest.
laalaa500@kbin.earth · 46 pts · 343d
The concept of voting food as a human right is already weird to me but yeah, of course this would be the result.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 343d
This vote makes no difference whatsoever. The UN can't truly bind any state to any action. Why would the US participate when we're the biggest bully on the block? We're only in it for public perception, and most importantly, the veto.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 343d
If it doesn't do anything then it doesn't cost anything to vote for it. The US opposition to it was weirdly that it both is just symbolical and doesn't have concrete steps and that it forces bad things on the US (companies)
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 343d
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 343d
Well at least we know who the bad guys are.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 343d
The US is a shithole country.
Also the only country where children don't have rights.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 342d
They didn't ratify it because they want to be able to kill children, and lock them up forever without parole.
hayvan@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 342d
Also they don't recognize International Court of War Crimes.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 30 pts · 343d
The capitalism demands payment for food. The capitalism reminds you that it's easier to pull yourself up by the bootstraps if you weigh less.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 343d
Every economic system requires money for food. Unless you want to grow your own? Been gardening for 35-years, it would be hell to feed my tiny wife and my tiny self on 2 acres.
It's not capitalism, you're just seeing the end stages. No reason we couldn't have continued to tax the snot out the wealthy and continued to collectively bargain via unions. No reason we couldn't have continued to disallow and bust monopolies.
Any economic system will eventually funnel the money upstream. We have to have the morals and education to fight against that. Every economic system is rise and fall, rinse and repeat.
I don't have the ultimate answer. Education? But how do you fund that, and keep everyone singing from the same hymn book, when the money starts trickling up and the rich fight for their own best interests?
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 27 pts · 343d
What a disgusting country I live in.
MITM0@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 343d
Of course they did. You know what else should be a human right ?
Internet (We are not talking about social media)
Landless2029@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 342d
Internet should be treated as a utility some 15 years ago.
Job searches, paying bills, medical portals and more. It's a requirement today even more so.
iglou@programming.dev · 6 pts · 343d
And it's even easier to implement than food. Many countries already have free access to computers with internet in public libraries.
bystander@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 343d
I don't know, people keep saying it's nice to disconnect from the Internet. People who've lived without it long term and have a good real life community is probably doing ok. It's not a need to thrive as a human being. Seems like a detriment in the long run.
MITM0@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d
They mean social media & it's only said by people who are narrow-minded. The kind of people that honestly Should be gatekept away from internet because they're a net negative.
Plus it's already been said by actual govts. (Look up Kerala high court)
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 342d
I suppose porn can be gotten in magazine form.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 342d
Are we the baddies?
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 342d
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d
we aren't. they are. "they" being the fascist fuckwads in washington
Soulg@ani.social · 3 pts · 342d
Well if you listen to the people here, we're also bad for being victims of it and not killing people
thatradomguy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 342d
I like this plan.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 342d
It isnt people we' d be killing. Those creatures ceased being people a long time ago
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d
No. Just... don't. I don't know if you are trying to absolve humanity from their sins, or if you are just participating in the great tradition of declaring your enemies as inhuman so that you can kill them guilt-free - but either way, don't.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 342d
Then sit your ass back on your couch and wait for them to come for you because they absolutely will
brianary@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 342d
In DC. My state has been fighting harder against this stuff than almost anyone else.
Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 343d
"Are we the baddies?"
ceenote@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 343d
The fuck does "human right" even mean if a basic necessity for short-term survival isn't one?
BanMe@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 343d
You have the right to starve to death in the street
plz1@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 343d
No loitering
Mac@mander.xyz · 16 pts · 343d
Let the people vote instead of the fascists.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
The Soviet solution to this was to send all the fascists to Siberia and I’m starting to think they had the right idea.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 15 pts · 343d
The UN declaration of Human Rights already declared "freedom from want" a human right, which includes food, shelter, and clothing.
Food is already a human right, according to the UN.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 342d
That goes against the very foundations of capitalism!
The UN is lucky no one in the USA government can read, or they'd've already been liberated with extreme prejudice!
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 342d
Didn't you read? Trump just signed an executive order that claims anticapitalist actions are terrorism.
I wish I was being sarcastic..
Evotech@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 342d
Man I want a 5090
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 342d
You'd think Americans would be on board considering how much they eat
kreskin@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 342d
Americans who have any political voice (right wingers these days) have plenty to eat and hate the poor. They prefer them hungry as some sort of punishment for ending up needing the help. We have Ayn Rand capitalism in our blood.
Ayn Rand, who died impoverished eating through public assistance hated the poor and made it morally acceptable for Americans to hate their poor. She thought altruism was evil. She was also a zionist who thought Arabs were "primatives" https://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/ryan-said-to-be-meeting-with-adelson/
Fleur_@aussie.zone · -4 pts · 342d
I bet all the other problems in your life are exclusively other people's fault too?
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d
its not a problem in my life. I'm at retirement age and I have enough money. I grew up in a different era and my life wasnt all that difficult.
The biggest problem I have these days are people like yourself bringing my community down and being whiney fascist nitwits. So in a way, yea my problems are other peoples fault, yours.
hayvan@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 342d
Yes but they only want themselves to eat, not others.
Makhno@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 342d
They'd love to starve a bunch of their fellow americans, too
Soulg@ani.social · 2 pts · 342d
I mean the majority of the citizens certainly are on board
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 343d
The US vote counts as a veto right? That sucks ass.
p3n@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 342d
If Life is an inalienable right, and food is an undeniable necessity for human life, then it should be self-evident that food is a human right.
MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 342d
We're dealing with a society that doesn't understand what inalienable means, and especially the leaders.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 342d
Capitalism is massively dependent on coercing labor through the deprivation of basic human needs.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 343d
It would be weird if they did vote "yes", considering what they are doing right now.
I guess you can count on them for being consistently shitty.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 343d
We know why Israel voted "no". As to America, we are still, ATM, the most powerful military and economic force on Earth. Think logically; Why we ever agree to anything any other country wants unless it's a clear benefit to us? The schoolyard bully doesn't give quarter until he's punched in the fucking face, and no one can really break our nose, at the moment.
Give it time. We've alienated all our friends, and they're desperately looking and working towards a future without American influence. It'll take a long time to see our empire die down. SOURCE: 20th century British history.
AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 343d
the sun finally set on the british empire for the first time in many, many years this year (2025 - it lost the chagis islands ~march). it takes a very, very long time 👍
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 342d
Good knowing we're the Axis this time around.
Shithole.
Infinite@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 342d
Makes sense. Being an ally is woke.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 343d
I was thinking if they voted again about the same thing with the same results but yeah this was about the 2021 vote.
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 343d
...Wait, I thought food was already a human right? Article 25.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 343d
It is. This was a vote to reaffirm it (I guess in the context of the current genocide where its been shown that Israel is using food as a weapon).
But this vote doesn't overturn the fact that food is recognized as a human right by the UN.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 342d
Big news everybody! The country that does nothing right, did the same thing again!
Like we did expect something different.
boaratio@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 343d
We suck.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 343d
How did I miss hearing f about this in 2021??
Arancello@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 343d
Algunos americanos dont want to have to help others unless there is a profit in it.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 343d
It’s just capitalists that think that way. Your country has them too, I promise. They are a scourge that must either be washed away, or they will tighten their grip on the world and turn us all into monsters in their own image.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 342d
Sure, but the USA is the only country where capitalism is the official state religion, and where reasonable regulations are seen as an attack on personal liberties (since it's also the only country that considers companies people... and real people a resource to be owned and consumed).
kreskin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
Funny side note. Gene Roddenbury wrote the Ferengi alien race into the Deep Space 9 series to be the bad guys. Ultra capitalists, which had some.. odd parrelels with judaism on top of the hyper capitsim. Women being unable to participate in business and being held as second class citiziens who werent allowed to wear clothes and were generally held as lesser is a good example. Sounds good on paper in the writing room, but they didnt catch on as bad guys in the US market and were moved to a comedy role, and new bad guys were introduced. Americans just couldnt see oppresive capitalists as villains. There was some pushback in the form of some groups calling the portrayal of Ferengi as an innately antisemitic construct, but no one ever said they were jewish or modeled after judaism, so thats awkward.
In a similar example, the writer of the Watchmen comic series wrote Rorschach to mock the fascist elements of American politics, and the character was intended to be mocked and pittied. American audiences adored Rorschach and he unexpectedly became the fan favorite and most discussed character by a fair margin. His black and white thinking and unwillingness to "sell out" no matter the cost --even when the cost was armageddon --came across as deeply principled .. to American audiences.
makes you wonder what the character of American people even is. We are fused with capitalism.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 342d
Seriously, Moore did everything possible to portray Kovacs (especially Kovacs after he stopped wearing the mask and he became the mask as someone extremely_damaged_, and who was very unlikable as a person.
He was rude, he was homeless or close to it, he broke into the home of the only friend he had left, stole his beans, and ate them cold directly from the can, he spent his days wandering the streets with a "the end is nigh" sign and his nights beating up petty criminals into the hospital or early graves, he read some far right pamphlet of which he probably was a significant percentage of the readership... if I had to compare him to some other character in media the first to come to mind is Taxi Driver's Travis Bickle.
Moore gave him a tragic past, sure, but that was supposed to explain Rorschach, not to justify him... but a lot of readers read it as such.
The scene where Silk Spectre II and Night Owl II reminisce about the past and laugh at how Rorschach threw some pervert who liked being beaten up by suits down an elevator shaft isn't supposed to be humorous, it's supposed to show (like the whole Comedian character and story, or the whole book, really) how the rest of the watchmen aren't really good either... but for a lot of readers it humanised him.
His "badass" one-liners show how despite his damage he's still capable of quick wit and reasoning, how he's still responsible for his actions. And in the prison scenes how he's as deserving of being locked in there as any other inmate, if not more. But for a lot of readers they just make him a badass action hero.
Same with V in V for Vendetta; while charming (in a significantly unsettling way), he's a self admitted monster, created by monsters. He's what's left of the man they murdered, animated only by his desire for vengeance.
He doesn't care about freeing England, or about justice, or anything like that. He cares only for vengeance and while he tries to leave a successor to carry on after he's done, by torturing Evie like he was tortured he isn't freeing her, he's just perpetuating the cycle of abuse.
There are no heroes left in Norsefire's England, yet readers see him as a hero, a liberator, a freedom fighter.
Moore always expected too much of his readers, and we always let him down.
No wonder he ended up secluding himself from society and becoming a wizard.
Soulg@ani.social · 2 pts · 342d
It's the state religion in every way but official
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 342d
Didn't Trump just declare being against capitalism (as well as being against fascism) heresy, I mean, terrorism?
Sounds pretty official to me...
ICastFist@programming.dev · 4 pts · 343d
It's the ones in power. Always been, will continue being for the foreseeable future.
spinda@leminal.space · 6 pts · 342d
The depravity is beyond parody.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 343d
They're also after the air and water.
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 343d
The US once helped create the UN as a means of unifying the world against fascism. Now it has made itself and Kahanist Israel the enemies of the UN.
اَللَّٰهُ أَكْبَرُ
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 343d
There were nazi rallies in the US in the 1920s. What are you talking about?
The US has been fucking with other countries for the last 150+ years. Manipulating their elections, deposing their governments, and installing dictatorships.
We now say Russia does this but the reality is that the US are masters at it and have never stopped.
8H2k2139@lemmy.ca · -8 pts · 343d
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 343d
Interesting suggestion when we're talking about human rights, because collective punishment is against the Geneva Convention.
fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net · 7 pts · 343d
Do you think the populace of these countries are the ones voting in the UN?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 343d
At least here in the US, you just spent the last eight months watching Democrats make fun of people who couldn't afford basic food staples because they voted Donald. For the years prior to that, it was Republicans making fun of people who couldn't afford basic food staples because they voted Biden.
So yeah.
I think we're fairly comfortable with people starving, as long as we perceive it to be the right sort of people.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
They voted for the ones who voted for the ones who voted for the ones though…
At some point the populace is responsible for who they voted into power and didn’t petition for the checks and balances.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · -1 pts · 343d
No, I did not. Do not imply that I did and threaten to nuke me because of what other people I have no control over did.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 343d
You voted for someone who voted this person in.
Yes you do have control, you just forgot to exercise it, or let you voted constituent go free. Did you ever write to one? Or change your vote once you found out what they did? There is always ways to fix what your voted constituent did. Problem is, the voted people removed those and you let them.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 342d
If I did vote for someone who voted this person in, I really didnt have another option that wasn't worse, and yes I do write to my elected officials. Youre just assuming I don't because you have no faith that anyone in this country is actually fucking advocating for themselves, and its really frustrating to see people like you, going around saying those of us who ARE ACTUALLY FUCKING FIGHTING ARE NOT.
Trill88@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d
Lead the way tough guy