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c/privacy · by LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml · 311d

Police Used Flock Cameras To Track One Driver Over 500 Times. Now They're Being Sued - Jalopnik

https://www.jalopnik.com/1982690/police-flock-cameras-sued-for-tracking-man-526-times/

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chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 184 pts · 310d (16 replies)

The city I work in installed Flock cameras. City Council was clear they were only to be used to flag license plates for active felony warrants, silver alerts, and Amber alerts.

In less than 48 hours they were using them to give out tickets and track people who had turned in Open Records requests regarding the police department.

birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 62 pts · 310d (2 replies)

They are a tool for terrorism. ACAB

AtariDump@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 310d (1 reply)

TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 310d

A. C. R. A. B.

All Crabs Really Are Brilliant

HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 33 pts · 310d (10 replies)

I’ve heard of Amber alerts for lost kids but are silver alerts for lost older folk?

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 310d (6 replies)

Yup. In California we even segregate the alerts based on race for some fucking reason. Black people don’t get the same normal alert that every other ethnicity gets, they get an EbOnY aLeRt.

Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 310d (4 replies)
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mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 310d (3 replies)

this is the first time I've seen someone use that term

I like it. keep it up

MoonMoon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 310d (2 replies)

Hmm, needs a bit of workshopping IMO. How about "I duckduckwent" instead?

some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 310d

I've duckduckgone

0x0@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 309d

Just duck it...

burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 310d

Wtf? I know there were several that you don't see very often, but for race? wtf!

bigfondue@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 310d (1 reply)
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HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 2 pts · 310d

That happened to my grandfather more than once. He was in the neighborhood but would lose his bearings, not realizing that we was three blocks from home. A bit nuts.

BetaBlake@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 310d

Yep

AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 310d

Guess it's our job to go around destroying them then

ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 306d

track people who had turned in Open Records requests regarding the police department.

I am not surprised at all. Fucking fascist bastards.

Pirky@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 310d (4 replies)
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AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 310d (2 replies)

Damn there are a couple in my tiny rural town, they appear to be high up though.

Anyone have tips or ideas about how to disable or destroy them?

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 310d (1 reply)

Maybe a paintball gun would be effective? I'd make sure you aren't in view and wearing proper equipment though.

AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 310d

Ah! I didn't even think of that, and I own one. Good call.

umbrella@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 310d
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hereforawhile@lemmy.ml · 54 pts · 310d (1 reply)

Neat map that compiles how many weekly contributions are made around the US to the deflock map

https://alprwatch.org/flock/map

mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 310d

man that is fucked up

why are republicans not going crazy over this?

humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works · 46 pts · 311d (4 replies)

I feel that this should be the biggest issue in US national news. And although I do not consume much main stream news I have only ever seen blogs and small circulation articles on the issue. Like how can any one on either aide of the political divide be ok with shit?

AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 310d

Because Trump supporters will say, "I don't do anything wrong so it doesn't matter, it'll only catch libruls"

And Trump administration people will say, "Well they won't use it on me ever and we can use it to inflict maximum suffering on our enemies"

hereforawhile@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 310d (1 reply)

There is good traction on the federal lawsuit in Norfolk. Your absolutely right this is a bipartisan issue. It will set huge precident if IJ wins the case. At the very least, LEO needs warrants to use the system. Right now it's the wild west.

IJ posts updates of the case here. They have already tried to derail the lawsuit multiple times but they have been able to push through all the appeals thus far so it can actual go to a jury trial.

humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 310d

Thank you for sharing this

0x0@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 309d

Watch the Louis Rossmann thing in the Austin hearing... the mayor of whothefuckever he is actively out-of-ordered anyone mentioning those cameras... except the representatives of the company that makes them, who got to speak, twice, uninterrupted.

desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 310d (1 reply)

so much for the fourth amendment

surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 310d

The Third Party Doctrine obliterated the fourth amendment.

PriorityMotif@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 310d (3 replies)

These also have Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. I'm convinced that they also connect mac addresses of your devices to determine who is driving. I also suspect that they use facial recognition when possible.

primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 11 pts · 310d (1 reply)

The facial recognition would be done by whoever they send footage to.

Wouldn't be shocked about the hardware addresses though.

PriorityMotif@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 310d

The cameras themselves are simply trail cameras with GPS and a cell signal. The images get sent to a server for processing. I'm also sure that they send at least some images to be read by humans manually.

Anivia@feddit.org · 1 pts · 309d

Don't most modern Phones randomize their Mac Address for every wifi? My Samsung does by default, you need to manually disable it so you don't get thrown into the captive portal every time you reconnect to a public wifi

Cataphract@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 310d

I'm so glad this is slowly getting more solid traction. For more viewing and reading pleasures on the topic,

Videos:

Breaking The Creepy AI in Police Cameras - Benn Jordan

Breaks down the technology and deployment of the systems. Builds his own and shows strategies to beat the analysis of your data.

Austin City Council is playing games & I've had enough. - Louis Rossmann

Liveview's facial recognition discussed in person with sales director.

Citizens address Austin Mayor on AI Surveillence cameras; AS EXPECTED on September 25th part 1

Louis Rossmann attempted to address the surveillance systems in his local town, couple of other videos on his channel showing the hurdles and bureaucracy that's making it harder to address these situations.

Everyone Should Ask Their City Council About This... - The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder

Another video detailing ALRP's (automatic license plate readers/flock safety systems) and their uses in local and interstate areas

EFF Members' Speakeasy: Police Surveillance and ALPR - The Electronic Frontier Foundation

Articles:

Data Driven: What Is ALPR? - The Electronic Frontier Foundation

Lots of articles listed in here, one of the major groups trying to spread information on these programs.

_druid@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 310d

There's a few in a town nearby, owned by the city, looking at a roadway. Then there's three, with no owner information, all looking into a Lowe's parking lot.