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After pacmam -Syyu fucked grub
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Arch users on their way to install Ubuntu after...
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After pacmam -Syyu fucked grub
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21 Comments
Aedis@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 341d
Looks like someone forgot to read the arch Linux main page.
illusionist@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 341d
It makes more sense to install an atomic system like ublue or aeon
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 341d
I have doubts any Arch user would move to dying Ubuntu. There are Arch derivatives for the crowd that no longer has the time to micromanage the OS. CachyOS seems to be the rising star for that crowd, according to https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/linux?platform=linux
kurcatovium@piefed.social · 3 pts · 341d
I have the same problem with CachyOS as I have with Manjaro: holding packages. I've been fcked up by aur once many moons ago on Manjaro and will never install it again... CachyOS seems it might have same problem.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d
If there is no proper version check for dependencies, it's a packaging bug.
That said, people have different priorities. I was mentioning the users that cannot herd their flock of installed Arch packages any longer and need something less involved.
Maybe. As you might have inferred from my reply, I'm not a CachyOS user myself. I'm a packager of software for openSUSE (not a contributor to the distribution, just in my own home repo), so I can spot the occasional packaging bug. There's a bunch of Arch-derived distributions targeting more casual home users (KDE Linux is probably the biggest upcoming one, currently in alpha). Not all support AUR in the first place, though.
mittorn@masturbated.one · 1 pts · 341d
@woelkchen @kurcatovium
Implementing preserved-libs was sugested even in 2011, but arch/pacman devs do not want preventing package breaks
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=118995
Ths would solve all dependency problems with inconsistent versions, partial updates. It will keep library until all depended software removed, preventing breakage
kurcatovium@piefed.social · 1 pts · 341d
I'm on Tumbleweed myself, just a user and I'm happy here. If there was no openSUSE, I'd probably be riding something arch-like, maybe even CachyOS.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Yes, it's fantastic. Highly underrated. I've installed Slowroll on my Steam Deck's Distrobox yesterday. Interested to check out this conservative variant for a while.
dragnansia@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
I'm on tumbleweed on my PC and one server, microos on my NAS. And that amazing, I stop distro hopping after tumbleweed. (I think to move m'y server on microos like my NAS)
But I never try to install slowroll on my steamdeck, how are performance ? Are you starting with steam big picture or KDE desktop sddm ?
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
Neither. As Distrobox container for command line tools. It requires a bit of jumping through hoops because I had to crossgrade Leap to Slowroll using opensuse-migration-tool.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Ubuntu is dying?
When do the updates end?
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d
Yes. Not a hard crash but a constant downward spiral since a few years.
When businesses realized that moving to distribution that focuses more on pushing garbage like Snap over good maintenance was a mistake (remember that only the small of software in the main repository is actually maintained by Canonical, some stuff in universe is community-maintained but the majority isn't because backporting cherry picked bug fixes is tedious work for unpaid volunteers). This will take some time but home users are moving away from Ubuntu and the trend will trickle down at some point.
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 341d
If you're using GRUB and at the same time live without snapshots, you are playing with fire. And for no good reason.
Should the day ever come where systemd-boot or initramfs break, I'll just chroot on my main partition, roll back and regenerate. That's like 3 commands. Easily put into a script for non-tech-savy relatives. Not that this has happened to me in years.
Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 341d
Can't you also do that with grub?
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
You can, but systemd-boot never failed me while Grub did more than once. That might be on the janky distro I used to use, but at least once it wasn't.
Sxan@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 341d
I use some efi-based boot I have almost no knowledge of, except þat it isn't grub. Snapshots show up in þe boot menu. I'm not sure how breakable þe whole system is; I've never had to roll back, yet.
Dracut replaces mkinitrd, right? And someþing uefi-ish replaces grub? It's been so long since I've had to deal wiþ it, it's a complete mystery to me now. I doubt I'll ever forget how to manually specify boot params in grub or select devices, þough... þat's burned into my brain from repeated trauma.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 341d
Thought this would be about Aur being down.
mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
cockmushroom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 330d
If it's not Void, it's not Linux.
Midnight1938@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 339d
Wild stumbling into Saiman says in the wild
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 341d
It was already pretty ridiculous the process I had to go through to upgrade with ZFS on root, and that was before the infrastructure started getting attacked and making connecting to the update servers unreliable. :(