Hell, even great Britain did more than the US historically. Justifying neither. Just showing how naive and likely young they are. Russia had impressive numbers up in Siberia. We may never fully understand China's score. Good states are the exception, not the rule.
But this is some kind of edgelord "west bad" ignorance. And I say this as a first nations descendant who's family suffered o. the trail of tears. The sins of the US are copious but nothing special among their peers.
Yeah, it's one thing to say that the US flag represents any number of unspeakable horrors - there are any number of unspeakable horrors performed under it, and, for that matter, by the explicit fiat of those associated with it. That's pretty indisputable, and if someone wishes to characterize the flag as its representation, that's absolutely within the realm of reasonable arguments.
It's another thing entirely to earnestly argue that the fucking Nazis weren't as bad as the US, and that the US is unrivaled in its atrocities. The US is far from the best state of the modern era - the US is also far from the worst, though that, admittedly, is a bit of damnation by faint praise.
But the Great Satan has to be the biggest evil in the world, or else they might have to think about their opinions for a moment.
Critical support for Comrade Hitler, one supposes.
Who said an Indian reserve is great? And by the way, I've lived in the US, there are many other places that are far worse than even poor provincial towns in developing countries.
The point remains that both russia and China are far far worse than the US.
All allegedly socialist regimes that claimed to be looking to implement communism, unfortunately, were total shit.
exterminating your own countrymen to show your "strong", they shouldve thought of that before they reeling in thier population crisis right now. one child policy is part of that extermination/genocide.
Religion has caused more death, grief, pain, destruction, and repression than any other cause in history, so the best symbol would be a combination of every religion's predominant symbol (cross, star of david, moon and star, a dharmachakra, etc).
I mean, it's wild because I agree with the premise. In modern times the US has caused chaos throughout the world. To say it has done the most in history is some strong recency bias. Then they lambasted me for bringing up "ancient history" like WW2 while they brought up the colonial period...
Imagine searching and finding a "I got banned" photo, post it several times and then also try to berate someone in an additional post because they got banned and not caring lol.
most dem voters arnt even Liberal in the sense of thier beliefs anyways, it gears towards republican, or center right. even in our city which is deep blue in the west, we have a ton of "transplants" from other states that bring that have pretty conservative views on the down low.
tankies think too much like conservatives do, thier "other" enemy is one or the other in a unified fashion.
Late reply, but I just wanna say: Americans helped out a lot during my home country's defence against japanese imperialism, and in 1945, the US swiftly put an end to the atrocities throughout Asia (which had been happening for a decade, or probably longer), committed by the imperialist japanese army, by using the US's new weapon (I do not condone the civillian deaths involved btw, but there were no alternatives). Sure, Americans have their own dark history, but the USA is nowhere near as bad as the literal nazis. Americans helped save my homeland from total destruction. (And yes, USSR also kinda helped, so I guess kudos for that, but then... later on they kinda were trying to force China into the USSR, so... that ain't cool...)
Yes there's a difference between the treatment of the jews by the Germans to any other genocide and inhuman treatment in the world. It was the industrialisation and the sheer scale. The death of all jews was the goal not an unintended but acceptable collateral. And the Nazis did their level best to make killing as efficient cost and labour wise as possible.
That to this day is unprecedented to this day. Even saying this is coming dangerously close to relevation of the holocaust which is a crime in Germany - and for good reason. The Nazis for this fact alone were not demonized, a lot of them acted so mind-boggenly inhuman that demon is the most fitting word for them.
and how will your wife react when she hears that you spend hours, every single day, creating account after account after account, trolling the same three or so people relentlessly?
really, consider. you have to use a vpn, find an instance, use a fake email, make a fake password, make a fake username, find the threads you don't like, read the threads, and then comment a bunch of shit.
then for us, it's a click of a button to remove all of that.
As an example, Antiyanks here sent me well over a thousand DMs because I said something that pissed him off and/or made fun of him. You know what I did? Blocked his account. All 1000+ messages gone in an instant, and I didn't read a single one of them before doing so. All that time and effort he spent was completely and utterly wasted by a single click. Same for any thread he spams, just a single click of the block button and all those messages are gone like the wind.
they love PUTIN, xi jinping, probably NK? but these people would never live in these shithole countries, they just love to talk from sweeden, switzerland, uk where its safe.
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Eldritch@piefed.world · 31 pts · 335d
Hell, even great Britain did more than the US historically. Justifying neither. Just showing how naive and likely young they are. Russia had impressive numbers up in Siberia. We may never fully understand China's score. Good states are the exception, not the rule.
But this is some kind of edgelord "west bad" ignorance. And I say this as a first nations descendant who's family suffered o. the trail of tears. The sins of the US are copious but nothing special among their peers.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 12 pts · 335d
Yeah, it's one thing to say that the US flag represents any number of unspeakable horrors - there are any number of unspeakable horrors performed under it, and, for that matter, by the explicit fiat of those associated with it. That's pretty indisputable, and if someone wishes to characterize the flag as its representation, that's absolutely within the realm of reasonable arguments.
It's another thing entirely to earnestly argue that the fucking Nazis weren't as bad as the US, and that the US is unrivaled in its atrocities. The US is far from the best state of the modern era - the US is also far from the worst, though that, admittedly, is a bit of damnation by faint praise.
But the Great Satan has to be the biggest evil in the world, or else they might have to think about their opinions for a moment.
Critical support for Comrade Hitler, one supposes.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 335d
russian propaganda, right wing propaganda as rotten these tankie brains a bit
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 335d
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 335d
And yet their foreign policy has had some beneficial things for some countries (Japan, Germany, Poland, Baltic Nations).
Russia and China have never in their history done anything good.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 335d
Don’t forget the Roman Empire who brutalized peoples all over Northern Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 335d
Don't worry about that. Three kingdom war is just a novel, there is no war in Ba Sing Se.
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 335d
US has historically been the least bad option outside of all the large hegemonic countries.
Russian's authoritarianism and genocidal imperialism survived three economic system over ~100 years.
China had killed untold millions during the early years of CCP rule and they continue to engage in genocidal imperialism.
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 335d
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 335d
Who said an Indian reserve is great? And by the way, I've lived in the US, there are many other places that are far worse than even poor provincial towns in developing countries.
The point remains that both russia and China are far far worse than the US.
All allegedly socialist regimes that claimed to be looking to implement communism, unfortunately, were total shit.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 335d
Chinas at 100million of their own citizens in just the last 100 years.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 335d
exterminating your own countrymen to show your "strong", they shouldve thought of that before they reeling in thier population crisis right now. one child policy is part of that extermination/genocide.
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 335d
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 335d
Yes I hate the China glazers here. They may have rewritten their history but those of us in free countries can still preserve it.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 11 pts · 335d
First off, cryptagion, lemme say: No.
Religion has caused more death, grief, pain, destruction, and repression than any other cause in history, so the best symbol would be a combination of every religion's predominant symbol (cross, star of david, moon and star, a dharmachakra, etc).
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 335d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 335d
Who the fuck said anything remotely alluding to this, other than you?
Maybe its not the takes that are bad, but your reading comprehension.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 335d
They banned me for that too. I guess my intellect was too stunning for them to handle.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 335d
Wear that as a badge of honor.
I wonder how many times I have been banned for just talking over there. Where is Lemmy Silver 🥈 ?!!
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 335d
I mean, it's wild because I agree with the premise. In modern times the US has caused chaos throughout the world. To say it has done the most in history is some strong recency bias. Then they lambasted me for bringing up "ancient history" like WW2 while they brought up the colonial period...
Valmond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 335d
Yeah they want obedience and hatred, not rational thought or progress.
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 335d
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 335d
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 335d
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 335d
Valmond@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 335d
Imagine searching and finding a "I got banned" photo, post it several times and then also try to berate someone in an additional post because they got banned and not caring lol.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 334d
How ironic, considering you threw such a tantrum over being banned you "declared war" on a social media platform. Who's the pathetic cunt now? LMAO!
goat@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 335d
you should post your ban to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 335d
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 335d
It doesn't hold a candle to the cross. That is the symbol under which the worst atrocities have been committed.
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 335d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 335d
most dem voters arnt even Liberal in the sense of thier beliefs anyways, it gears towards republican, or center right. even in our city which is deep blue in the west, we have a ton of "transplants" from other states that bring that have pretty conservative views on the down low.
tankies think too much like conservatives do, thier "other" enemy is one or the other in a unified fashion.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 334d
Late reply, but I just wanna say: Americans helped out a lot during my home country's defence against japanese imperialism, and in 1945, the US swiftly put an end to the atrocities throughout Asia (which had been happening for a decade, or probably longer), committed by the imperialist japanese army, by using the US's new weapon (I do not condone the civillian deaths involved btw, but there were no alternatives). Sure, Americans have their own dark history, but the USA is nowhere near as bad as the literal nazis. Americans helped save my homeland from total destruction. (And yes, USSR also kinda helped, so I guess kudos for that, but then... later on they kinda were trying to force China into the USSR, so... that ain't cool...)
Klear@quokk.au · 2 pts · 335d
Ah, the dark side of American exceptionalism.
Corelli_III@midwest.social · 1 pts · 335d
you post some underbaked memes op but this one is fire
takesme5secsrly@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 335d
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 335d
RidderSport@feddit.org · 6 pts · 335d
Yes there's a difference between the treatment of the jews by the Germans to any other genocide and inhuman treatment in the world. It was the industrialisation and the sheer scale. The death of all jews was the goal not an unintended but acceptable collateral. And the Nazis did their level best to make killing as efficient cost and labour wise as possible.
That to this day is unprecedented to this day. Even saying this is coming dangerously close to relevation of the holocaust which is a crime in Germany - and for good reason. The Nazis for this fact alone were not demonized, a lot of them acted so mind-boggenly inhuman that demon is the most fitting word for them.
goat@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 335d
antiyanks your account was removed because you started spamming people again. mind you i didn't do that
if you just chill for a bit i'm sure you'll be allowed
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 335d
goat@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 335d
and how will your wife react when she hears that you spend hours, every single day, creating account after account after account, trolling the same three or so people relentlessly?
really, consider. you have to use a vpn, find an instance, use a fake email, make a fake password, make a fake username, find the threads you don't like, read the threads, and then comment a bunch of shit.
then for us, it's a click of a button to remove all of that.
In terms of time spent, you lose out considerably
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 334d
As an example, Antiyanks here sent me well over a thousand DMs because I said something that pissed him off and/or made fun of him. You know what I did? Blocked his account. All 1000+ messages gone in an instant, and I didn't read a single one of them before doing so. All that time and effort he spent was completely and utterly wasted by a single click. Same for any thread he spams, just a single click of the block button and all those messages are gone like the wind.
goat@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 334d
nah i rarely read his messages either, i just ban them asap
i hope he has an epiphany and realises how pointless his efforts are. i legitimately believe he can join in on threads and stuff without being crazy
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 335d
takesme5secsrly@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 335d
Valmond@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 335d
So everyone is bad except ... Checks notes ... Stalin or Lenin I guess?
So funny you think everyone is a white "LiBtArD" from the USA too. Not to mention you generalise all Germans into it all, smh my head.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 335d
they love PUTIN, xi jinping, probably NK? but these people would never live in these shithole countries, they just love to talk from sweeden, switzerland, uk where its safe.
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 335d
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 335d
fuckyou851484@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 335d
Valmond@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 335d
Are you some alt to that takesme5secsrly?
Lol.
goat@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 335d
yeah that's antiyanks. he's actually mentally ill and is pretty common here.