Disney Reportedly Pulls the Plug on TRON 4 After TRON: ARES Crashes at the Box Office, Is Jared Leto to Blame?
https://geektyrant.com/news/disney-pulls-the-plug-on-tron-4-after-tron-ares-crashes-at-the-box-office-is-jared-leto-to-blame
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icerunner_origin@startrek.website · 54 pts · 296d
Give fans the Tron movie they want, without an actor they hate, and they might just go see it
Weirdfish@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 296d
That's the thing, legacy was the perfect setup for a sequel, and they just dropped it.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 295d
That movie was cancelled and we need to get over the fact we will never see Sam and Qorra again. ..
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 296d
He’s the reason I didn’t go see it 🤷♂️
J92@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 295d
Same.
He was the worst thing about Bladerunner 2049.
TheImpressiveX@piefed.social · 26 pts · 296d
NOTE: Ares died on the way back to his home planet.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 296d
"An infortunate training incident…"
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 2 pts · 295d
Here's a signed affidavit that we will never here about Ares ever again
f1error@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 296d
When I saw the teaser trailer, I was excited. I'm a massive TRON fan. I have lots of memorabilia, and I love seeing them every day.
Then I saw the first full trailer, and I saw that Jared Leto was going to be in the movie. I got worried, I've never liked a role that Leto has played. He's just creepy and awful.
I hope this isn't the end of TRON, but I hope it's the end of Leto. However, I hear he's playing Skeletor in the new He-Man, so I guess he gets to kill another franchise.
Dalvoron@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 295d
I
liked himthought he did a good job in WeCrashed because he was playing a weirdo the audience was meant to hate. As always, he brought a certain I-can't-stand-this-man energy to the roleFlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 296d
I didn't even know it was a thing until a couple days ago. I think it didn't do well because it's Tron. Tron just doesn't do well in the theaters.
fistac0rpse@fedia.io · 18 pts · 296d
I'm sure they'll try to reboot Tron again in 15-20 years and the exact same thing will happen, as is tradition
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 295d
The original Tron was very experimental. It had an out there concept (which I can really respect for sci-fi), it had a pioneering synth soundtrack, and pioneering visuals. It was kind of novel but a lot of people found it boring and convoluted. It found a cult fandom of nerds like this guy and to the rest of the world it became a punchline for a weird flop of a film. Even the Simpsons took a shot at it.
Decades later they made a sequel that nobody seems to hate. Tron Legacy was actually well made, it's got decent cinematography to it, they built sets, the CGI looks great with the possible exception of a de-aged face that does not hold up, and Daft Punk's soundtrack is universally acclaimed. Most moviegoers agree that the plot of Tron Legacy exists. It was a success; it made more than its budget, it sold some tie-in merch. The weebs I knew around that time had pictures of either Olivia Wilde or a light cycle as their desktop wallpaper for a few months, and then the world moved on. It wasn't bad, but it's still a niche fanbase compared to The Matrix or Pirates of the Caribbean or Star Wars.
And now they've made another for some reason. It's got very little to do with any of the original characters, Tron isn't even in it. It's about virtual characters emerging into the real world, released at a time when people are worried about AI and the effects it's going to have, and it stars an actor basically nobody likes. I've heard mixed reviews about the NIN soundtrack.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 5 pts · 295d
Perfect summary. "Nobody knows why they did". Spot on. Literally there was no point for this nothing of a story. No one wanted this premise, no one wanted Jared Leto, no one wanted Tron without the sickass graphics.
Not only that but apparently they were worried about if it's too sci fi it'll scare away people. Well congrats, by making it a bland action movie now not only did you make it not worth seeing for the general populace, now the few of us who actually liked Tron are so annoyed with it we aren't seeing it either.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 295d
There's not going to be any actual sci-fi movies ever again. There's going to be movies with computers and space ships and lasers in them, but there's never going to be a movie that asks questions, because movie executives are too stupid. They've been stupid for longer than I've been alive. Remember the movie Enemy Mine? Which does have actual sci-fi in it? There's the whole rescue from a mine sequence because the executives thought audiences would be too confused if there wasn't a literal mine in the movie.
Hell, Master and Commander: The Far Side Of The Earth, the movie you suddenly become very interested in when your testicles turn 30. The enemy ship in that movie is...a Yankee-built...French heavy frigate? Yeah no, that was supposed to be USS Norfolk, a sister ship of the USS Constitution. Why are they French? The studio thought that American moviegoers wouldn't be okay with Americans being the enemy. In a movie set in 1804.
Studio executives are rock chewing stupid and they think everyone else is too.
Linktank@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 296d
Isn't he like some weird fucking cultist? Why can't they just hire normal people.
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 296d
Yeah, he's got an underage rape cult and should be in jail.
jonathan@piefed.social · 6 pts · 295d
He was also the producer of the movie.
Linktank@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 295d
Ah, now it's starting to all make sense.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 296d
Between shit like this and all those articles about Trump that are like "Is Trump breaking the law?", Betteridge's Law of Headlines is officially fucking dead.
Poayjay@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 296d
Side thought: gauging whether a movie is good or bad based on opening weeks in theaters is stupid. I have never gone to an opening weekend and don’t think I’ve met anyone who has.
Hugin@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 296d
Opening weekend doesn't tell you if it's good or bad. It does give you a good idea if it's going to make a profit. This one is going to be a big money looser.
Steve@communick.news · 12 pts · 296d
Of course you have. You just haven't talked to them about it.
Odds are good you've even met a murderer and didn't know it.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 296d
Without making money on residuals like rentals and syndication box office is how we measure value
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 295d
This is the most absurd post….
Opening weekend is all that matters when it comes to a movies success. It has always been that way. There are very few movies where the financial success does not come from opening weekend.
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 295d
Fuck Jared Leto. Sole reason myself and many others refuse to pay for this movie.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 296d
I never know whos coping more, executives who think they can make a successful Tron movie or Tron fans who insist there's potential in the franchise
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 4 pts · 295d
Like most of Hollywood right now, if executives and producers stopped trying to make everything into generic action franchise movie, then it might be good. Tron was always a cult movie. Small loyal following who dragged countless friends family and living spouses to go sit for 2 hours to watch it.
If they would have kept it an ultra sci fi movie truly for the fans - it could have done moderately well. But they don't want moderately well, they want ultra blockbuster so tried to make it appeal to everyone. So it appeals instead to no one, and here we are. Another franchise on the fire.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 295d
If attaching a poorly thought through plot onto a unique sci fi premise with stunning visuals, a unique score and mediocre acting isn't what the cult following of Tron were after, then I don't think people ever really liked this film as much as they claim.
raoulraoul@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 295d
Jared Leto is always to blame.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 296d
When I heard they were bringing Tron out to the real world. I lost all interest personally. I'll watch it streaming when it comes to that, but skip the theaters for this one.
III@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 296d
They first did that "real world" thing in Legacy, though, with Quorra. I will say they did a good job with the concept in this one.
Personally I sought it out in IMAX because this is one of those big special effects and sound movies that makes theater worth it. It looked and sounded great.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 3 pts · 295d
That was fine. The fact that it looks like 90% of Arse looks like it's in fucking LA for what we all know is cost savings makes me 0 interested
jonathan@piefed.social · 2 pts · 295d
It's in Vancouver* for cost savings.
AFreeLarryHoover@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 296d
I don’t know much about Tron, but it seems you have to be 50+ to appreciate it.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 296d
I think if any of your childhood was in the 1980's and you were a boy, and a bit of a nerd you'd appreciate.
And yes I do still have my tron record album /comic book.
Speculater@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 296d
I mourn the loss of my original movie poster weekly.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 295d
How do you keep losing it every week? Just hang it on the wall. 🤷♂️
starchylemming@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 295d
yes
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 295d
I have no idea what the movie is supposed to be about, which is the first two strikes. But even if that weren’t the case, I won’t watch anything with a lead rapist.
OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 296d
There was a new Tron movie? Shit. Is it any good?
elgordino@fedia.io · 8 pts · 296d
The NIN sound track is worth a listen. Otherwise apparently, no.
OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
I do enjoy a bit of nin. That's sad to hear, though. I love Tron. I even liked the shitty second one.
taaz@biglemmowski.win · 5 pts · 296d
according to internet, it's shit
Steve@communick.news · 6 pts · 296d
And the internet is quite trustworthy.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 5 pts · 296d
OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
:-(
I'll have to tell my Japanese and German friends. They're really into that sort of thing.
Steve@communick.news · 5 pts · 296d
It's quite good. It mostly ignores and retcons Legacy somewhat. But the story that it does build is interesting in its own right. A worthy addition to the Tron history.
OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 296d
I've gotten 2 votes for no and one for yes. That's good enough for me to give it a shot.
jonathan@piefed.social · 2 pts · 295d
I enjoyed it for the visual and audio aesthetic. The story is a bit meh, but it's Tron so that's what I expected going in.
Dagamant@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 296d
I bought the soundtrack… just not interested in a Disney movie right now. Disney is on my shit list and groceries are eating up my entertainment budget.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 4 pts · 295d
Is it Tron'in time yet?
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 295d
Is Leto to blame? As the lead he will carry the blame, that is how it works when you are the lead actor for a movie. This whole project is just mind boggling. It is another Joh Carter esque Disney shit show..
There have been three Tron movies in the last 45 years. Did anyone really think that is a good recipe to generate hype?
It is completely unclear what Tron even is. I know it is a character from the first movie. The character was non existent in the last movie and didn’t really make an appearance until the last 2 minutes of the movie in such a silly wanna be dramatic moment.
Bruce Boxlieter isn’t exactly an A lister that will bring out the crowd.
Like pretty much everyone posting in this thread I am not a Leto fan. He sure doesn’t get me to watch a movie
I am not a huge NIN fan. Is that band still a thing? As a movie nerd I am aware of the scores and soundtracks Reznor has done, who the fuck though that NIN would bring out the crowds?
Also without a debate the best part of the last Tron movie was the Daft Punk soundtrack. WHY NOT BRING THEM BACK? Maybe the producers tried, but for the love of god use dump trucks of money…
I am a hue Tron fan and have been one for 45 years. The problem is the movies are utter duds. Also of all the major studios Disney is just the worst. All the stuff they make is just garbage.