If only. All the American leftists with guns are tripping over themselves to explain why it’s not time, and why the second amendment doesn’t apply when the government is rounding up and disappearing American citizens and sending federal troops to cities. They won’t even unify to vote against trump, let alone fight him
So are you going to be the general, inspiring and gathering people, and picking targets? Or is this just yet another call for generic violence against any targets so you can feel that others are "doing something."
I'm not a killer. I'm not interested in killing random conservatives. I'm interested in things that reduce pain and suffering in the world. Murdering people who don't agree with me is not the way I want to live my life.
I’m not American but know plenty, you’re all pro gun. It’s kinda crazy. Even democrats will defend gun rights. I saw a figure that said something like 61% of democrats are pro gun control, not ban but control. So that leaves 39% that are pro gun, on top of the pretty much 100% republicans who are pro gun rights.
I used to be pro-gun control due to the prevalence of school shootings. But seeing what Trump is doing with ICE (literally masked men throwing you into a commercial van) and reading the history of armed resistance (e.g., Black Panthers protecting each other from police brutality) I think it's time we acknowledge that we are not going to vote our way out of this mess. Let's not take a means of legal resistance off the table.
This is a tangent but, I find it baffling that Americans are one of the most tolerant democracies of abuses of power against common citizens and corruption. Their country was founded precisely to stop both. Their constitution was almost utopian for the time, writing about the irrefutable rights a human has. And look at it now, capitalism and oligarchs have trashed their country. They lack even basic infrastructure such as health care, transportation a functional education system, etc. All for the benefit of rich people who can bypass the broken country by buying normal services and amenities, while less fortunate people are left to fend for themselves. It is a broken country because only nobility can afford human-worthy living standards there. The nobility and oligarchy in the USA are so very effectively blocking the country from having infrastructure that every other civilised country on planet earth has had for decades or even centuries. How the american middle class could let this happen is baffling.
The direct answer to your question is that it's a deep rooted cultural problem that has been with us since the beginning. The problem is the culture of extreme individualism and anti-intellectualism. People want to be completely free and unrestricted in their behavior, whether that harms others or not. Ultimately the desire for the freedom to harm others with impunity is what leads to where we are now. The rich want to be able to exploit their workers harder, men want to be able to beat and rape their wives and control their entire life, pedophiles (see endless stream of republican pedophilia controversies) want everyone to make more babies for them to rape, landlords want to take all your money for the privilege of having a place to sleep, every company that sells goods or services wants to fleece you, and all of these assholes want to have zero consequences for their actions. They gaslight the normies into distrusting the scientists, the educated, the compassionate, because they would actually help people. It's not even about greed really, it's about the ultimate extreme of personal freedom. Money just makes you more free.
So why haven't we done anything? People have, there's just a lot of people who want this to happen. A lot of people would cheer as they send me to the gas chamber. The majority of my extended family probably would.
She has been released and stated that the flotilla crew ( her included ) have been subject to mistreatment and abuse.
Israel is now accussing the flotilla to be part of hamas.
I wonder what aspects of education fight the tendency, like if there end up being any things that specifically help more than others, or if it's more like an overall-function thing. Or maybe humility??
Or what if it's just an extremely commonly learned behavior that most people just have to unlearn
I wonder what aspects of education fight the tendency
For the individual, mindfulness and instilling a sense of belonging to a global in-group (e.g. "human beings") is key. Avoid language that directly compares social groups as inherently good vs evil, as that's where bad things start to creep in. Teaching empathy, critical thinking, nuance, and generally encouraging curiosity are crucial to maintaining this broader world view.
At the macro-level, it's about maintaining that sense that there is no race, country, or populace anywhere that is top-to-bottom "evil." So we keep educating our peers with counter-examples to bad behaviors, and shed light on lies and rumors when they reinforce negative narratives. Leading by example through charity, empathy, and compassion can help, provided the story gets out. Unfortunately, all this goes up against power structures a lot of the time; these arbitrary divisions and biases get used to great political effect. It's hard as hell to do.
Yeah, that's standard conservative strategy - you are either with us, or you are aligned with whatever group is the current Boogeyman. AFTER 9/11, you either supported everything the government did, including two unfunded endless wars, or else you were an Al Qaeda Terrorist.
Today there is a choice. If you don't support Israel and genocide, you are anti-Semitic and Hamas. If you are against MAGA, you are ANTIFA. If you protest, you are a domestic terrorist.
The claims are that they were working with/for hamas according to documents they found.
I didn't read all the reports and may have missed something but I don't have the energy to find and debunk Israël claims.
The fact remains : you don't get to drone bomb humanitarian convoys and whatever justification that come afterward is meaningless.
"me at my parents age" is in the future. It's a hypothetical where Elon has a moon palace, something happened to Greta, and an organised resistance has formed.
54 Comments
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 306d
If only. All the American leftists with guns are tripping over themselves to explain why it’s not time, and why the second amendment doesn’t apply when the government is rounding up and disappearing American citizens and sending federal troops to cities. They won’t even unify to vote against trump, let alone fight him
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 66 pts · 306d
Be the change you wanna see in the world.
Sheepy@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 306d
And all the conservatives who "own guns to prevent guberment tyranny and fight oppression!!!" are also doing squat all.
The US is a bit FUBAR ain't it?
TheSambassador@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 306d
So are you going to be the general, inspiring and gathering people, and picking targets? Or is this just yet another call for generic violence against any targets so you can feel that others are "doing something."
I'm not a killer. I'm not interested in killing random conservatives. I'm interested in things that reduce pain and suffering in the world. Murdering people who don't agree with me is not the way I want to live my life.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 306d
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 306d
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 306d
Democrats have been anti gun for decades and are now reaping the consequences, sadly.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 306d
I’m not American but know plenty, you’re all pro gun. It’s kinda crazy. Even democrats will defend gun rights. I saw a figure that said something like 61% of democrats are pro gun control, not ban but control. So that leaves 39% that are pro gun, on top of the pretty much 100% republicans who are pro gun rights.
balderdash9@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 306d
I used to be pro-gun control due to the prevalence of school shootings. But seeing what Trump is doing with ICE (literally masked men throwing you into a commercial van) and reading the history of armed resistance (e.g., Black Panthers protecting each other from police brutality) I think it's time we acknowledge that we are not going to vote our way out of this mess. Let's not take a means of legal resistance off the table.
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 306d
Oh yeah, banning guns is far outside our Overton window for sure. It's a career killer for any politician. Just look at Beto O.
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 306d
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 303d
Pretty sure democrats heavily support guns for the cops, prisons, military, etc.
And they've been benefiting from the consequences for a long time.
balderdash9@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 306d
Rothe@piefed.social · 46 pts · 306d
Except they only post about their imaginary heroics on the internet, and then sit back on their couch doing nothing.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 26 pts · 306d
You can do both, I don't see the problem with doing anticapitalist propaganda on the internet, it's probably what pushed me most towards organizing
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 305d
We could use some more John Browns.
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 306d
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 41 pts · 306d
Even in The Resistance one does not simply abandon Nike branding
It's got a swoosh!
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 26 pts · 306d
She's the goddess of victory, seems appropriate!
popekingjoe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 306d
Rapi is best girl.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 306d
NIKA NIKA NIKA
greenbit@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 306d
Just do it
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 306d
This is a tangent but, I find it baffling that Americans are one of the most tolerant democracies of abuses of power against common citizens and corruption. Their country was founded precisely to stop both. Their constitution was almost utopian for the time, writing about the irrefutable rights a human has. And look at it now, capitalism and oligarchs have trashed their country. They lack even basic infrastructure such as health care, transportation a functional education system, etc. All for the benefit of rich people who can bypass the broken country by buying normal services and amenities, while less fortunate people are left to fend for themselves. It is a broken country because only nobility can afford human-worthy living standards there. The nobility and oligarchy in the USA are so very effectively blocking the country from having infrastructure that every other civilised country on planet earth has had for decades or even centuries. How the american middle class could let this happen is baffling.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 306d
The direct answer to your question is that it's a deep rooted cultural problem that has been with us since the beginning. The problem is the culture of extreme individualism and anti-intellectualism. People want to be completely free and unrestricted in their behavior, whether that harms others or not. Ultimately the desire for the freedom to harm others with impunity is what leads to where we are now. The rich want to be able to exploit their workers harder, men want to be able to beat and rape their wives and control their entire life, pedophiles (see endless stream of republican pedophilia controversies) want everyone to make more babies for them to rape, landlords want to take all your money for the privilege of having a place to sleep, every company that sells goods or services wants to fleece you, and all of these assholes want to have zero consequences for their actions. They gaslight the normies into distrusting the scientists, the educated, the compassionate, because they would actually help people. It's not even about greed really, it's about the ultimate extreme of personal freedom. Money just makes you more free.
So why haven't we done anything? People have, there's just a lot of people who want this to happen. A lot of people would cheer as they send me to the gas chamber. The majority of my extended family probably would.
I hate this place
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 306d
What ever happened to "you have the freedom do do/say what you want but the responsibitly to consider those around you"
I guess that's pretty pale when the individualism becomes strong enough that people think they're the main character
return2ozma@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 306d
You are correct.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 303d
The state was founded by genocidal enslavers. That's what it is despite this kind of imperial mythology.
For rich pale skinned bros.
Always has been and it's not very baffling if you have a realistic understanding of history, colonialism, genocide/slavery, capitalism, etc.
es_eskaliert@feddit.org · 27 pts · 306d
Bit OOTL, what happened to Greta? Is she still being held hostage by the Israelis?
RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 68 pts · 306d
She has been released and stated that the flotilla crew ( her included ) have been subject to mistreatment and abuse. Israel is now accussing the flotilla to be part of hamas.
Snopes article : https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/10/07/greta-thunberg-israel-arrest/
TL:DR israël commit atrocities yet again and try to say it's due to hamas again.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 40 pts · 306d
Greta is part of Hamas now?
zloubida@sh.itjust.works · 65 pts · 306d
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 306d
Pick a location.
Figure out their word.
Everything they don't like is that.
Is this an everywhere thing? Or a certain kinds of people thing?
zloubida@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 306d
I'd say it's a universal tendency. But education can fight this tendency.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 306d
I wonder what aspects of education fight the tendency, like if there end up being any things that specifically help more than others, or if it's more like an overall-function thing. Or maybe humility??
Or what if it's just an extremely commonly learned behavior that most people just have to unlearn
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 306d
For the individual, mindfulness and instilling a sense of belonging to a global in-group (e.g. "human beings") is key. Avoid language that directly compares social groups as inherently good vs evil, as that's where bad things start to creep in. Teaching empathy, critical thinking, nuance, and generally encouraging curiosity are crucial to maintaining this broader world view.
At the macro-level, it's about maintaining that sense that there is no race, country, or populace anywhere that is top-to-bottom "evil." So we keep educating our peers with counter-examples to bad behaviors, and shed light on lies and rumors when they reinforce negative narratives. Leading by example through charity, empathy, and compassion can help, provided the story gets out. Unfortunately, all this goes up against power structures a lot of the time; these arbitrary divisions and biases get used to great political effect. It's hard as hell to do.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 306d
The latter. It's easy to cast blame, it's hard to understand the problem.
fin@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 305d
But education is losing the battle against power
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 306d
It's in-group/out-group psychology. So, it's everywhere (including here) and one must be mindful to counteract it.
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 306d
Lmao real
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 306d
Yeah, that's standard conservative strategy - you are either with us, or you are aligned with whatever group is the current Boogeyman. AFTER 9/11, you either supported everything the government did, including two unfunded endless wars, or else you were an Al Qaeda Terrorist.
Today there is a choice. If you don't support Israel and genocide, you are anti-Semitic and Hamas. If you are against MAGA, you are ANTIFA. If you protest, you are a domestic terrorist.
Nikls94@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 306d
Thank you! I asked my gf what happened to her and we simply didn’t know
axexrx@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 306d
Wait, part of hamas? I thought the accusation was being in contact with hamas, which the flotilla itself had claimed
RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 305d
The claims are that they were working with/for hamas according to documents they found.
I didn't read all the reports and may have missed something but I don't have the energy to find and debunk Israël claims. The fact remains : you don't get to drone bomb humanitarian convoys and whatever justification that come afterward is meaningless.
vithigar@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 306d
"me at my parents age" is in the future. It's a hypothetical where Elon has a moon palace, something happened to Greta, and an organised resistance has formed.
return2ozma@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 306d
^this
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 306d
Y'all can do it for Greta. I'm still fighting for Harambe. DICKS OUT!!!
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 306d
I love your optimism. Keep up the good fight. FOR THE MOON!
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 306d
Yeah we really Need to wake up and fight. Even alone, like luigi. Make them scared.
There are People Who can and probably will, but in many platforms(aside here) Like reddit you cant Say this and i think that really slows It down.
vegals@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 305d
This isn't a call to violence is it......
fin@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 305d
Is a call to justice
vegals@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 305d
More like a call to get this post removed. (Assuming mods aren't just as psycho.)
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 305d
Its a call to Justice, to free the people
sommerset@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 306d
U guys are buying weapons right? It's still legal as far as I know. For self defense
TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 305d
Oh yes.
Rise1547@feddit.org · 2 pts · 305d
if only
87Six@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 305d
Those 3 0's after the decimal point are so unnecessary
blibla@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 306d
is that mr T ?
Eloratatouille@retrolemmy.com · -5 pts · 305d
Why don’t i see trans flags ?
Eloratatouille@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 284d
WTF, i only wanted ,as à trans girl,to see my flag in the anti musk attack…