Its amazing how little they want to know why and just want to vent their frustration at you. Laughter doesn't calm them down but it sure makes me feel better after I've explained it ten times.
Really makes me try and catch myself complaining and just to stop it.
A lot of conversations revolve around 'dont you just hate this one process, or people like x, or y never works' and it's always weary and exhausting, but much more so since I became the tech guy and realize how much people default to stories like that when they have nothing else to say about your profession.
If you want to say 'ive noticed that x never seems to work properly and I'm wondering why it couldn't be fixed with z' and are genuinely curious I'm more than happy to problem solve and/or explain complexities, but most people never want to hear a complicated answer about systemic forces.
I was talking with someone not particularly computer literate about AI. He was quite dismayed at how factually inaccurate it is about so many things. He asked me, as a much more computer literate person, if I could build him a different better AI system. I was like "Dude, I build websites. No."
How many techie types have had someone come to them and say something like "Hey, you know tech thing XYZ? You know how it sucks? Well I've got a great idea: make a BETTER one! So what do you say? You whip it up in an afternoon, I'll handle marketing, and we'll be rich!"
Like they really thought that the issue is just that no-one can see the flaws. They thought that the fix is super easy and they're just the first person clever enough to see it.
My rule of thumb is: if I see an incredible easy solution for a problem in a field I am no expert in, the solution must be garbage for reasons I don't understand
Sometimes I wonder how people can be so naive. Even if they don't know just how much money is thrown at AI, just the fact that it is now in literally anything and on the news every day should be a clue that it is a huge industry. You wouldn't expect the guy that changes your cars tires to be able to single handedly build a car that is better, faster, cheaper and more efficient than all car companies together.
America has always had an anti-intellectualism streak and it's become 3000 miles wide.
You know those cute stories: "Kids solve problem that the experts couldn't handle". They're propaganda. The paper left out that the kids' solution wasn't economically viable, and the dumber among us walked away thinking the "white coats" didn't have enough "common sense".
Thankfully, my family understands that stuff on the internet is "someone else's computer", so it's easy to explain why something is down - "It's their fault"
Of course many don't know what AWS is but honestly it isn't that hard to explain/grasp.
I don't repair my peers' Windows computers, but I feel a bit of responsibility in being the one who tries to explain shit like that in understandable terms.
install kiwix-serve and serve the entire English wikipedia
install Navidrome music server
set up port forwarding or use cloudflared (or just stay on LAN)
Under proot I was also able to run Jellyfin server, and someone else also did Nextcloud and at some point a public BBS.
But oh well, soon Google will block unauthorized apps because I probably just purchased a license to use the phone, as opposed to actually buying the device.
As for why, it's just a battery-powered computer, so why not. And by the way, Navidrome in Termux is probably as easy as it gets anywhere, since it's in the repo. No docker or installing a .deb, just apt install navidrome.
Well, true. IPv4 exhaustion yet not enough IPv6 support
de-peering
If this dispute escalates further and a complete de-peering happens in that case both networks will end up having a blackhole. Customers sitting on either side (and their single-homed downstreams) will not have any routes to each other.
On April 8th, 2010 China Telecom hijacked 15% of the Internet traffic for 18 minutes, experts speculate it was a large-scale experiment for controlling the traffic flows.
The incident also affected US government (‘‘.gov’’) and military (‘‘.mil’’) websites.
AWS is that cloud everyone kept going on about before AI was the big buzzword see this is actually your fault tech literate illiterate (Oops, auto correct) audience for putting faith in powers you couldn't hope to understand and much less control.
Lemmy is a confusing place. I sometimes get reported for trolling for just stating an opinion and sticking to it despite others not agreeing with it. That is trolling I guess. :)
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blave@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 316d
“Part of the internet broke. They’re working on it.”
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 316d
Its amazing how little they want to know why and just want to vent their frustration at you. Laughter doesn't calm them down but it sure makes me feel better after I've explained it ten times.
masterspace@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 316d
Really makes me try and catch myself complaining and just to stop it.
A lot of conversations revolve around 'dont you just hate this one process, or people like x, or y never works' and it's always weary and exhausting, but much more so since I became the tech guy and realize how much people default to stories like that when they have nothing else to say about your profession.
If you want to say 'ive noticed that x never seems to work properly and I'm wondering why it couldn't be fixed with z' and are genuinely curious I'm more than happy to problem solve and/or explain complexities, but most people never want to hear a complicated answer about systemic forces.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 315d
But I don't using the Internet, I use the Firefox? Should I switch to the Google?
Balaquina@lemmy.ca · 40 pts · 316d
I was talking with someone not particularly computer literate about AI. He was quite dismayed at how factually inaccurate it is about so many things. He asked me, as a much more computer literate person, if I could build him a different better AI system. I was like "Dude, I build websites. No."
Redkey@programming.dev · 19 pts · 316d
How many techie types have had someone come to them and say something like "Hey, you know tech thing XYZ? You know how it sucks? Well I've got a great idea: make a BETTER one! So what do you say? You whip it up in an afternoon, I'll handle marketing, and we'll be rich!"
Like they really thought that the issue is just that no-one can see the flaws. They thought that the fix is super easy and they're just the first person clever enough to see it.
shrugs@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 315d
My rule of thumb is: if I see an incredible easy solution for a problem in a field I am no expert in, the solution must be garbage for reasons I don't understand
Balaquina@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 315d
LOL, I feel this so hard 😂
groet@feddit.org · 9 pts · 316d
Sometimes I wonder how people can be so naive. Even if they don't know just how much money is thrown at AI, just the fact that it is now in literally anything and on the news every day should be a clue that it is a huge industry. You wouldn't expect the guy that changes your cars tires to be able to single handedly build a car that is better, faster, cheaper and more efficient than all car companies together.
Dragonstaff@leminal.space · 5 pts · 315d
America has always had an anti-intellectualism streak and it's become 3000 miles wide.
You know those cute stories: "Kids solve problem that the experts couldn't handle". They're propaganda. The paper left out that the kids' solution wasn't economically viable, and the dumber among us walked away thinking the "white coats" didn't have enough "common sense".
expr@programming.dev · 4 pts · 315d
No one can, because they (LLMs) are fundamentally not suited to the tasks people try to use them for.
zarlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 30 pts · 316d
AW Shit not again
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 316d
Imagine trying to explain this 20 or 30 years ago.
"Yeah you know that website that sells books? One of their computers crashed and took half the Internet out."
python@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
- "Oh, DNS issue?" "Yup."
(DNS has been around since 1983)
ICastFist@programming.dev · 27 pts · 316d
Thankfully, my family understands that stuff on the internet is "someone else's computer", so it's easy to explain why something is down - "It's their fault"
Landless2029@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
I've managed to train my family to understand "server side issue"
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 18 pts · 316d
Of course many don't know what AWS is but honestly it isn't that hard to explain/grasp.
I don't repair my peers' Windows computers, but I feel a bit of responsibility in being the one who tries to explain shit like that in understandable terms.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 316d
it's a computer in a building somewhere else.
because there are other servers that are talking in a group and they all need to get fixed.
it is in one building but the building is 20k sqft.
and that's why I just say, "the internet is broken."
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 10 pts · 316d
I have to admit I presumed I'd be starting from a point where people know that web sites are not actually inside their devices.
ripcord@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 316d
Also not talking to a fox news nutjob
user224@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 316d
Proceeds to:
Under proot I was also able to run Jellyfin server, and someone else also did Nextcloud and at some point a public BBS.
But oh well, soon Google will block unauthorized apps because I probably just purchased a license to use the phone, as opposed to actually buying the device.
As for why, it's just a battery-powered computer, so why not. And by the way, Navidrome in Termux is probably as easy as it gets anywhere, since it's in the repo. No docker or installing a .deb, just
apt install navidrome.user224@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 316d
Well, true. IPv4 exhaustion yet not enough IPv6 support
de-peering
source
BGP hijacking
source
ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 316d
It’s so light! https://youtu.be/iDbyYGrswtg
DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 316d
Of course @ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de, the Internet doesn't weigh anything.
hellfire103@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 316d
Me trying to figure out what goog leapis is.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 316d
Is it like Lapis lazuli?
danekrae@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 316d
"A Weird Symptom"
"Aliens With Shutguns"
Asafum@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 316d
So thaaaaats what is in area 51... This whole time it was aliens with shotguns threatening web developers in order to keep the Internet running.
"Human! Asafum is attempting to connect to the human butt website, make it happen!"
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 316d
AWS is that cloud everyone kept going on about before AI was the big buzzword see this is actually your fault tech
literateilliterate (Oops, auto correct) audience for putting faith in powers you couldn't hope to understand and much less control.NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 316d
Hey man, the tech literate people were saying this:
It's the VCs and the marketing people who were pushing cloud services as the next big thing.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 316d
My phone has literally the worst auto correct in the world I will blame that on the technical people but reread my comment.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 316d
Oh, yes that does change the meaning.
taiyang@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 316d
I found success just saying Alexa wasn't working and a bunch of stuff uses it. Not even that far from correct, at least?
wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 314d
Honestly I'd compare to using Google in your everyday life and say Amazon is the business version of that
Brownboy13@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 316d
The cloud done burst.
fin@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 316d
Absolute Waste Shit
TheV2@programming.dev · 4 pts · 315d
It seems like a lot of people are not even aware of AWS, which leads to an underestimation how badly the world is infected with Amazon.
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 315d
There’s enough commercials for aws (on consumer channels for some reason) for them to know an aws issue is not something you can help with.
PsychoWiz@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 315d
Really? Making fun of average people not knowing what AWS is, this is considered programming humor now? https://xkcd.com/2501/
DonPiano@feddit.org · 8 pts · 315d
I think it's making fun of the person doing the explaining, because they are overwhelming someone with an overly intense explanation.
PsychoWiz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 315d
Yeah you are right I misunderstood the meme, thank you.
1984@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 315d
No, the fun part is them trying to understand what aws is, because why should they know what that is? Nobody outside of devops knows how it works.
Its actually making fun of our own culture, talking about these things as if others just know what they are.
When my car mechanic starts talking to me what they want to fix, I dont understand anything and just nod along.
PsychoWiz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 315d
Oh I can see that in the meme now, thank you for explaining the joke.
In my defense some of the top comments really didn't sound like that.
1984@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 315d
Lemmy is a confusing place. I sometimes get reported for trolling for just stating an opinion and sticking to it despite others not agreeing with it. That is trolling I guess. :)