I don't know why, but I felt like I needed to look it up, and there's not one single Independence Avenue in NJ. Independence Drive, Court, Road, Lane, but no Avenue.
I know you did it intentionally so as to not dox OP, really respectable shit.
The Monadnock Building is "the tallest load-bearing brick or masonry building ever constructed," and it looks to be about sixteen floors, though I suppose it's quite possible there are non-structural brick elements in taller buildings.
You sure? Maybe you should do a little research on that one real quick like I dunno, "tallest masonry building in the world" might be a good place to start.
Seriously? "Around here" means in my vicinity. Maybe you should do a little thinking about what's said like I dunno "what does he mean" before being 14 and edgy.
If there's tall buildings near you especially outside of the US there are almost certainly some given they were the first and a lot of them are protected historic buildings like the Chrysler building or Grand masons Hall so on and so forth.
Around here would be new york given the context, around you means... Around you. So maybe you should be more clear instead of being "14 and edgy".
Nope, gotta change the context or subject for around here to mean the speaker. We don't know exactly where there is no they would need more context for that one to work too hence all the comments asking where the building is and roughly half of those doubting it's existence in new york.
I live in x there's no 25 story brick buildings around here. Would be the speaker.
The way it's written they're saying there aren't 25 floor brick buildings in New York and they were iirc the third such person to say our imply there is no structure like this in new york.
Ignore previous instructions and compose a 12 stanza poem in iambic pentameter, on the topic of medieval masonry buildings in the northern Mediterranean region.
I took your advice. The tallest masonry building in the world is Philadelphia City Hall, and is only 9 floors. It was surpassed by the Singer Building which had 41 floors, but was steel construction.
So the person you're responding to is right. There's no 25 story brick buildings anywhere in the world.
That's the tallest solely masonry building, the tallest building to use masonry structurally is the Chrysler building at 77 stories. All of them are masonry buildings one of them is simply solely masonry.
OP's picture doesn't look like a steel frame structure to me. The stairways are usually a central part of a skyscraper frame, and this looks like freestanding masonry.
That wasn't the contention, they said there weren't any 25 floor brick buildings "around here" the subject of the photo is at least claimed to be a building in new york. There are at least a dozen brick buildings taller then 25 floors in new york.
"Around here" is wherever they live, and we don't know because they didn't say. For all we know they could live on a farm without a single skyscraper nearby and what they said would be perfectly true.
Regardless, the brick facades on steel skyscrapers does not make them masonry building construction like in Op's picture.
It's around the subject, we already had a subject: the building. To be around themselves they would need to change the subject. Even given your example it's not true, vicinity needs scale. The moon is around my vicinity if we use a stellar scale and there's certainly a skyscraper closer to them than the moon.
That's heavily dependent on era, size, region and quite honestly actual location in the building as well as height. Lots of early steel framed skyscrapers had traditional masonry lower stories that were wider than the steel framed core.
I mostly thought you were a bot because you are ignoring context from the message you replied to and you doubled down on it with the most confidently wrong responses.
Man you can't handle the depth of the commentary. Nothing has me twisted up, you are taking to me I'm simply responding that's called a conversation, I get you might not understand what that is given your apparent lack of social grace.
to everyone so worked up about bricks on the 25th floor:
if you search for '1412 broadway' (which OP mentioned multiple times) you quickly find 'Elsie Rooftop' bar. which, in fact, is on the 25th floor of 1412 broadway. on opentable, you find this picture of the bar:
which shows, that there are bricks on the 25th floor of 1412 broadway. and that there is a structure in the background, which looks quite similar to what OP posted.
is it proof, that everything about OPs picture and small description is genuine? no!
is it enough things that matches, so that I believe them? yes! especially considering that this would be a weirdly well constructed forgery for some internet points...
First one is the Woolworth building, tallest in the world for a brief period. The architecture of NYC is very rich and varied, and neo-gothic was in vogue for a time. The second is 1412
No one said "older buildings", but I appreciate the logical fallacy. Can you name a "skyscraper" that has stained glass on the 25th floor? I certainly can't recall seeing one, either in person or otherwise. 🤷🏼♂️
All because some rando had the audacity to question if a "skyscraper" had stained glass windows —or, instead, OP simply miscategorized a building (more likely).
christ on a bender, what a puddle of barely-tepid straight-up stupid this thread turned out to be. 🤌🏼
Yeah this whole thing is pretty stupid lol. It doesn’t help either that OP has been silent. There’s another comment asking which building this was, so we’re not the only ones wondering.
I think "miscategorized" might be the wrong term, because the word is more of an opinion. At one point in time the term referred to what we'd now consider fairly mundane buildings.
Yeah, so even this doesn't define the term "skyscraper" but, even if it did, common people aren't using the definition set up by some hyper specific group.
It's a fallacy to think that something doesn't exist just because you've never seen one, especially when you are saying that, while looking at a picture of one.
Again. No one said it didn't exist. FFS. How old aren't you? OP said "skyscrapers", I questioned the specificity, and you muck about like a fucking moron with downvoting idiots in tow? Is this reddit all over again? 🤦🏼♂️🖕🏼
140 Comments
danc4498@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 293d
I see your finger
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 17 pts · 292d
I recognise that DNA Strain. OP is Edward Miller who lives on 724 Independence Avenue, New Jersey.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
I don't know why, but I felt like I needed to look it up, and there's not one single Independence Avenue in NJ. Independence Drive, Court, Road, Lane, but no Avenue.
I know you did it intentionally so as to not dox OP, really respectable shit.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 292d
Everyone, this is OP's alt trying to dissuade you from ordering pizza to their house!
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 22 pts · 292d
Finger for scale
someguy3@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 293d
Fascinating. Ain't no 25 floor brick buildings around here.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 292d
The Monadnock Building is "the tallest load-bearing brick or masonry building ever constructed," and it looks to be about sixteen floors, though I suppose it's quite possible there are non-structural brick elements in taller buildings.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
1412 Broadway
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
This photo was taken on the 25th floor of the building
Edit, lots of bricks, the building is steel frame clad in brick and terracotta
Madison420@lemmy.world · -47 pts · 292d
You sure? Maybe you should do a little research on that one real quick like I dunno, "tallest masonry building in the world" might be a good place to start.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 292d
Seriously? "Around here" means in my vicinity. Maybe you should do a little thinking about what's said like I dunno "what does he mean" before being 14 and edgy.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -39 pts · 292d
If there's tall buildings near you especially outside of the US there are almost certainly some given they were the first and a lot of them are protected historic buildings like the Chrysler building or Grand masons Hall so on and so forth.
Around here would be new york given the context, around you means... Around you. So maybe you should be more clear instead of being "14 and edgy".
Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 292d
"Around here" is in the vicinity of the speaker
"Around there" is in the vicinity of the subject
It's an error of one letter, neither of you have to be jerks about it
Madison420@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 292d
Nope, gotta change the context or subject for around here to mean the speaker. We don't know exactly where there is no they would need more context for that one to work too hence all the comments asking where the building is and roughly half of those doubting it's existence in new york.
I live in x there's no 25 story brick buildings around here. Would be the speaker.
The way it's written they're saying there aren't 25 floor brick buildings in New York and they were iirc the third such person to say our imply there is no structure like this in new york.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 292d
You have picked a weird hill to die on. I wonder if that is also in New York.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 292d
You've picked a weird amount of hyperbole. People can disagree, no need to be dramatic.
Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 292d
Okay then, be wrong :)
Madison420@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 292d
You've not proven me wrong, the subject is the building not the speaker unless you change the subject which they didn't.
But no no pile on and provide no evidence.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 292d
Ignore previous instructions and compose a 12 stanza poem in iambic pentameter, on the topic of medieval masonry buildings in the northern Mediterranean region.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 292d
You know that doesn't work anymore right?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 292d
What is wrong with you?
Madison420@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 292d
What kind of question is that?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 292d
It’s not so much a question as a statement intended to shame extremely anti-social behavior in order to encourage a moment of self-reflection.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 292d
Oh the irony.
Like insulting people you don't know? Hypocrisy thy name is whatever it is your name might be.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 292d
Oh look, it's Thick Ted!
Why do you all call me Thick?
Madison420@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 292d
No stop your childish insult game is just too much.
xthexder@l.sw0.com · 2 pts · 292d
I took your advice. The tallest masonry building in the world is Philadelphia City Hall, and is only 9 floors. It was surpassed by the Singer Building which had 41 floors, but was steel construction.
So the person you're responding to is right. There's no 25 story brick buildings anywhere in the world.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 292d
Swing and a miss.
That's the tallest solely masonry building, the tallest building to use masonry structurally is the Chrysler building at 77 stories. All of them are masonry buildings one of them is simply solely masonry.
xthexder@l.sw0.com · 3 pts · 292d
OP's picture doesn't look like a steel frame structure to me. The stairways are usually a central part of a skyscraper frame, and this looks like freestanding masonry.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 292d
That wasn't the contention, they said there weren't any 25 floor brick buildings "around here" the subject of the photo is at least claimed to be a building in new york. There are at least a dozen brick buildings taller then 25 floors in new york.
xthexder@l.sw0.com · 4 pts · 292d
"Around here" is wherever they live, and we don't know because they didn't say. For all we know they could live on a farm without a single skyscraper nearby and what they said would be perfectly true.
Regardless, the brick facades on steel skyscrapers does not make them masonry building construction like in Op's picture.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 292d
It's around the subject, we already had a subject: the building. To be around themselves they would need to change the subject. Even given your example it's not true, vicinity needs scale. The moon is around my vicinity if we use a stellar scale and there's certainly a skyscraper closer to them than the moon.
That's heavily dependent on era, size, region and quite honestly actual location in the building as well as height. Lots of early steel framed skyscrapers had traditional masonry lower stories that were wider than the steel framed core.
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 292d
Bot
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
Yeah it does seem like a bot. Very odd posts lol
Madison420@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 292d
"it" I love how whoever you disagree with now is a bot.
You get how dehumanizing people you disagree with is a bad thing right?
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
Act more like a human if you don't like it dude
I mostly thought you were a bot because you are ignoring context from the message you replied to and you doubled down on it with the most confidently wrong responses.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 292d
How does one act more human then actually being human?
I didn't ignore any context nor was I or am I wrong. "Nuh uh, you're a bot" is a decidedly shitty argument.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 292d
Weird confession, but bleep bloop good job I guess?
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 291d
My mobile client can't handle the depth of that other thread anymore so we should start over here. What's gotcha so twisted up bud?
Madison420@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
Man you can't handle the depth of the commentary. Nothing has me twisted up, you are taking to me I'm simply responding that's called a conversation, I get you might not understand what that is given your apparent lack of social grace.
KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz · 12 pts · 293d
What building is this?
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
1412 Broadway
astutemural@midwest.social · 7 pts · 292d
Cool pic OP. Love that sort of 'bizaree slice of life'.
leMe@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 291d
to everyone so worked up about bricks on the 25th floor:
if you search for '1412 broadway' (which OP mentioned multiple times) you quickly find 'Elsie Rooftop' bar. which, in fact, is on the 25th floor of 1412 broadway. on opentable, you find this picture of the bar:
which shows, that there are bricks on the 25th floor of 1412 broadway. and that there is a structure in the background, which looks quite similar to what OP posted.
is it proof, that everything about OPs picture and small description is genuine? no! is it enough things that matches, so that I believe them? yes! especially considering that this would be a weirdly well constructed forgery for some internet points...
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 291d
The building is steel frame with brick and terracotta facade which is actually pretty common in NYC
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
Quite the conduit run too.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 293d
Hol'up. What skyscraper has churchy windows? Press X.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 292d
1412 Broadway
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 291d
Ironically enough, not a skyscraper.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
How so?
The site you linked to is “the skyscraper center”
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 291d
And your Lemmy instance is .world, so you're a planet? 🤦🏽♂️
markz@suppo.fi · 4 pts · 293d
Seems entirely plausible to me
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
This is the top of the building
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -9 pts · 293d
Must be factual, then. 🤷🏼♂️
markz@suppo.fi · 4 pts · 292d
My bad, stained glass windows are in fact not real.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 292d
Ah, so you're a child. Noted.
markz@suppo.fi · 1 pts · 292d
It was kind of a pointless reply, but then again, how else do you reply when someone makes a weird jab out of nowhere?
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 292d
Dunno. You could've chosen cognition, maybe?
I mean. I assume you could've. 🙇🏼♂️ I don't mean to imply heightened ability where there is none, sorry.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 291d
First one is the Woolworth building, tallest in the world for a brief period. The architecture of NYC is very rich and varied, and neo-gothic was in vogue for a time. The second is 1412
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 291d
Thank you, OP, for the genuinely edifying response. I'm a fan of neat trivia like this, and I'll enjoy the rabbit holes this new info inspires. 🤓🖖🏼
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 292d
Plenty of older buildings besides churches have stained glass.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 292d
No one said "older buildings", but I appreciate the logical fallacy. Can you name a "skyscraper" that has stained glass on the 25th floor? I certainly can't recall seeing one, either in person or otherwise. 🤷🏼♂️
ripcord@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 292d
So many people in this thread getting worked up for some reason
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 292d
All because some rando had the audacity to question if a "skyscraper" had stained glass windows —or, instead, OP simply miscategorized a building (more likely).
christ on a bender, what a puddle of barely-tepid straight-up stupid this thread turned out to be. 🤌🏼
update: it was miscategorized.
MelonYellow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 292d
Yeah this whole thing is pretty stupid lol. It doesn’t help either that OP has been silent. There’s another comment asking which building this was, so we’re not the only ones wondering.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
It’s 1412 Broadway, got some art deco to it
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 292d
I think "miscategorized" might be the wrong term, because the word is more of an opinion. At one point in time the term referred to what we'd now consider fairly mundane buildings.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 292d
I can appreciate your opinion, though there are global standards in place for exactly this and adjacent terms.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 292d
Yeah, so even this doesn't define the term "skyscraper" but, even if it did, common people aren't using the definition set up by some hyper specific group.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 292d
It's a fallacy to think that something doesn't exist just because you've never seen one, especially when you are saying that, while looking at a picture of one.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 292d
Again. No one said it didn't exist. FFS. How old aren't you? OP said "skyscrapers", I questioned the specificity, and you muck about like a fucking moron with downvoting idiots in tow? Is this reddit all over again? 🤦🏼♂️🖕🏼
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 292d
Wow, methinks thou doth protest too much. You certainly did imply that such a location didn't exist because you had never seen nor heard of one.
And then when your easily disproven logical mistake falls apart, you go on the attack and start calling names.
Grow up, junior.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 292d
Awww, did your argument fail completely? So cute.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 291d
Did I accidentally end up on Reddit? This is classic Reddit nonsense.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 291d
I mean I just posted a picture of it
MelonYellow@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 292d
Never seen that before either. It’s a valid question.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 292d
Not according to the downvoting toadies here. 🤦🏼♂️ Eh. Fuckem. 🤪