Trying to sow confusion amongst sources of truth. It fails again and again.
Elon Musk's version of Wikipedia is 'cribbing' information from the real one: report
https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2674238153/
https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2674238153/
Trying to sow confusion amongst sources of truth. It fails again and again.
74 Comments
whiwake@sh.itjust.works · 82 pts · 296d
Cribbing means… ripping off? Copying?
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 42 pts · 296d
Yep, did they not call a piece of paper you could copy off of during a test a crib sheet where you went to school? Or has that fallen out of use?
whiwake@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 296d
This is the first time I’m hearing it. I’m not exactly young…
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
Wikipedia to the rescue
A cheat sheet (also cheatsheet) or crib sheet or job aid is a concise set of notes used for quick reference.
And Harvard uses it as a verb
just_another_person@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 296d
"Crib Notes". Term used globally since the 60's.
Typotyper@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 296d
"Used globally since the 60s"
Then generates the biggest comment section in the thread. I'm also from the 60s but this one is new to me, and I'm pretty sure km from the globe even if the earth is now flat. And to be clear I've heard of crib notes but its the adaptation to cribbing that is me. Cribbing is part of cribbage.
whiwake@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 296d
I highly doubt it was used globally.
Also
Also, upon looking into the term crib notes it appears that’s been used since the 1800s.
just_another_person@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 296d
I lived in 4 English speaking countries in the 80's, and it was definitely used everywhere. NA, SEA, and AU. All used that term.
sourhill@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 296d
I’ve heard cribbed and cribbing in aus (90s-00s school) but never knew the etymology!
whiwake@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 296d
just_another_person@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 296d
You sober, friend?
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 296d
First I’ve heard it used ever. Unless you mean “Cliff Notes”
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 296d
No, that’s something different. Cliff notes is an actual notebook series of summaries of commonly taught literature and maybe other things. Crib notes is a literal cheat sheet for an exam.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 294d
Yeah. And that's what we call it. A cheat sheet.
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 294d
Correct. That is another term for crib notes.
madjo@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 295d
Globally? Are you sure? I’m from the 80s and I have never heard of that.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 295d
I heard it in the 80s-90s and come from the 70s. But my parents used it too I believe. At least they knew what the word was. They were form the early 1950s.
mormund@feddit.org · 18 pts · 296d
Friendly reminder that not everyone is American or in the anglosphere in general.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 295d
I'm not sure that's an American thing as I've never heard of it. I assumed it was a European thing.
mormund@feddit.org · 6 pts · 295d
Well, a UK thing maybe. In German it would obviously be a Spickzettel and spicken, respectively.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 295d
I am the official spokesman of the UK, never heard of it
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 295d
Oh man, you may need to turn in your Brit Card to the King. The term was likely born in Britain, and used as a central part of the UK's success in WWII.
The usage "crib" was adapted from a slang term referring to cheating (e.g., "I cribbed my answer from your test paper"). A "crib" originally was a literal or interlinear translation of a foreign-language text—usually a Latin or Greek text—that students might be assigned to translate from the original language. The term "crib" originated at Bletchley Park, the British World War II decryption operation.
source
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 294d
Like the office of Prime minister, the post of official spokesman is a revolving door and everyone leaves in disgrace
klemptor@startrek.website · 2 pts · 295d
I'm American and I knew what it was, so it's a thing here too.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 294d
Cribbing in College Examinations. | News | The Harvard Crimson https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1885/10/31/cribbing-in-college-examinations-during-the/
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 295d
Yeah, that’s why I asked. I didn’t want to assume
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 10 pts · 296d
Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 295d
Same in Canada. Crib is a card game. Cribbing is blocking that goes under heavy things or stuff that rolls to keep it stable or lifted.
Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 295d
zd9@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 296d
Man Goebbels would be creaming his jeans if he knew of the propaganda potential that Musk and Trump have at their disposal.
Thorry@feddit.org · 36 pts · 296d
Well I'm going to start my own Wikipedia, with blackjack and hookers!
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 295d
And ketamine?
tired_n_bored@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 295d
Wikipedia is one of the few treasures of the internet. He can go fuck himself
notarobot@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 294d
Along with the internet archive
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 296d
I don't understand what exact problem Grokipedia ^[1]^ is even trying to solve.
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KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 94 pts · 296d
The 'problem' where Wikipedia doesn't allow conservatives to edit in propaganda and disinformation as much as they'd like.
Godort@lemmy.ca · 40 pts · 296d
Yeah, this exactly. It's really hard to find actually credible sources for many of the rightwing "facts" they want to publish.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 296d
What do you mean? There are literally thousands of memes on Facebook, that back up every single claim. How is that not enough for you people? /s
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 296d
You joke but their goal is to replace every institution with a ministry of truth. They've done it with the media, they're doing it with government institutions that used to be independent and evidence based, and they won't stop until they control all information.
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 295d
I wonder if they allow Grok itself as a source
mcv@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 296d
They feel it to be true. What more evidence do you need?
tuff_wizard@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 296d
So basically what grok was trying to solve.
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 295d
They have more influence on Wikipedia than people realize. Take note of how often wiki pages for famous people will say they are Jewish in the first two sentences.
Now trace the origin of these edits. Often it came from a username such as "OdinWolf88". Now look at their edit history. These accounts do nothing but add "he/she is Jewish" to the first two sentences of peoples Wikipedia pages.
That and they troll the pages of right wing mass murders and terrorist attacks.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 293d
Look up anything Gaza related on Wikipedia. It used to change every 5 minutes.
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 296d
There is already the Conservapedia doing the same thing. It allows YouTube and Twitter as sources. I once saw a sentence like "liberals believe _______" and the source was a tweet with like 40 likes.
just_another_person@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 296d
Again, that's the point. That's their angle. Dilute everything so you can't tell what is factually accurate, and then you have kids reading this dumb shit and assuming it is true.
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 295d
Years ago I saw a page on that site about irrational numbers that was pure comedy. Basically they begrudgingly admit that irrational numbers might actually exist (whatever that means for numbers), but heavily implied that it's a liberal plot of some kind stemming from moral relativism or whatever. Just insane ramblings.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 294d
There are people out there fighting an insane uphill battle against not just the usual things you hear about - the young earth creationist denialism, the old earth creationist denialism, the moon landing denialists, the vaccine denialists, the moon landing denialists, the Holocaust deniers, and the spherical Earth denialists, there are also people doing whole podcasts where they try to deny things like quantum physics for similar ideological reasons...
Jan Irvin was this guy that seemed to kind of be out there on the fringe writing and talking about some rather fringe ideas related to the way in which xtianity began and interested in psychedelics, maybe somewhere on the left as far as ideology. Then, somewhere along the way, he seems to have done a turn [1], similar to the one Naomi Wolf did. Now he seems very much right-wing aligned, and at some point started cranking out lots of content about how Burning Man is some nexus of a deep state plot. Anyway, I seem to remember him cranking out lots of content railing against quantum physics, too.
Usually quantum physics serves as a crank magnet for all kinds of generally leftist kookery, but Jan seems to want to reject it outright for similar reasons that you talk about above with irrational numbers.
[1] One thing about the conspiracy theorists I've noticed is that they all tend to have similar character traits, mostly antisocial ones. They may align, for a time, with another conspiracy theorist, put out content together etc, but then, something or other happens, and they basically break up. And then they often won't even mention persona non grata...and then they find a new set of boyfriends, and soon the cycle repeats. Jan seemingly had some kind of mental break and radical life changes (?) so his positions went very red pill. If Jan is still out there doing content, I don't know if he's still doing similar content or even running with the same crew.
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 293d
I know this isn't your point, but the non-political way to express a similar rejection of quantum theory was literally just Einstein saying "god does not play dice", which he famously retracted.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
Indeed, I think a lot of people probably have a similar reaction.
In Jan's case it seems his view is that it opens the door to things like "moral relativism" and so the spectre of "Cultural Marxism" and the related accusations of this being some sort of plot soon follow...
I found it interesting since evolution deniers do similar things when it comes to Bio 101 - they think that Darwin is making the world more "secular", as they define that term. Meaning, they think that scientific facts influence culture in some nefarious way. They may be right that facts will influence culture in certain ways, but they arrive at the conclusion that it's been orchestrated by some big "They" to force some cultural outcome, and assume it also must be false.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 295d
It's gotten to the point where now if someone links to YouTube, I'll think they're more likely to be wrong than if they just asserted it with no link. Because if it was true, it would probably have a better source.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 295d
Interestingly, the site is timing out for me right now ^[1]^, but I've been able to find some interesting archived information: for example, they have a page titled "Conservapedia:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia" ^[2]^. To say the least, I take issue with some of their rationale.
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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 295d
Reality. They don't like reality.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 14 pts · 295d
I don't even get how xitter stays online. Didn't truth social take all their nutters?
Sprawl@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 295d
Unfortunately the media, celebrities, and corporations still use that crap, so others do too.
prototact@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 294d
Actually mainstream institutions still use it, including politicians. It's beyond me how complacent elected officials are.
Alloi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 295d
never once used it, anyone i knew personally who used it was kind of vapid, self obsessed, or had a crippling only fans addiction.
not my kind of joint, lol.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 294d
I made an account to stake out my name but never really used it. given the musk takeover though anyone with some cash can get whatever they want on their account.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 294d
It should be called: The truth according to a pedofile South African apartheid Nazi that grifted a trillion dollars from the American taxpayer and should be writing this from the prison general population
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 294d
Don't forget pedo
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50695593
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 294d
Added thanks
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 294d
I mean, you can download the whole thing at any time. Anyone can, including nasty cunts.
The tricky part is training it to forget all those pesky facts he doesn't like. Because there's going to be a lot of them.
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 295d
Enshittification incarnate
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 295d
Billionaires gonna plunder.
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 294d
The reason why Wikipedia is "woke" is because editors are smart, educated and not paid by massive corporations.
If you want to un-woke it, just get kids to write it, or Republicans (just don't put the Republicans in a room with the kids)
just_another_person@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
💥 GOT'EM
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
Can he just stop his bs, let other people run his stuff and he can be at home in a k-hole pissing himself?
What is all this? The paypig paid, now they don't need him anymore. Go home Elton
Ironfist79@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
Just call it what it is. Plagiarism.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 294d
Exactly what Microsoft did with Bing when Google Search took over.
prototact@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 294d
I posted somewhere almost a year ago he was planning to rewrite Wikipedia using grok and some people commented that I was being paranoid. In before he takes down the official Wikipedia after grok finishes digesting it in a satisfactory manner. I mean the trump government will find some way to ban Wikipedia, I bet China is already lending expertise on how to state-control the American internet
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 294d
Phyllis Schlafly's son is probably so, grrrr, mad that fElon has more money and more media coverage for his shitty knockoff of Wikipedia than Schlafly did for his shitty knockoff....
Taleya@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 294d
No shit, that fat turd hasn't had an original thought in his life
devolution@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 279d
Conservatives cant even lie correctly because they are so stupid.