Amanita Muscaria is really edible. You will probably have shits and vomits, but you will stay alive. And as side effects, euphoria and reality alterations
Meanwhile, in other circles, edible means it gets you high, so they're kinda onto something there. Though honestly, I'll pass on anything that makes me puke and gives me the shits. It's not that important to me to see a pink elephant when I look at my dog.
Also, people who drink alchool also vomit and people who drink coffee shit a lot...this fungus seems the combination of LSD, (too much) alchool and coffee
One of those preparations is “filtered through a shaman’s (or in some cases, a reindeer’s) kidneys.”
Yes, Inuits would sometimes drink the urine from a shaman who had eaten A. Muscaria, and I have read (but not from a scholarly source so I’m not swearing to it) that in Siberian tribes they would do the same thing but with a reindeer doing the filtering.
oh, yes, there is a large subset of mushrooms that are "edible if you nuke them". But as I'm not eating them for survival, I don't bother. Boletes, please!
Blushers (section validae) are also toxic though their toxins are supposedly destroyed by heat, none of the species in my area are considered edible. Are you thinking of grisettes (section vaginata)?
I found a small Amanita constricta a couple weeks back that I dried but haven't gotten around to tasting yet.
Amanita Rubescens - yes, you have to prepare. them (but who even eats "usual" mushrooms as-is, I always fry them, or they go in a soup. But ad I said, I never tried them - when they are there, everything else is also there, so i had no incentives to "try something new" :)
Ah, that one is pretty rare in the PNW. The common blushers around here are A. augusta which is said to taste like cardboard by the few who have tested it and A. porphyria which is generally not considered edible.
If more is many mushrooms, then probably. But you've got to really try:)
And if you dry them, you'll get less of the "bad" ibotenic acid but keep the "interesting" muscimol
fatal poisoning from Amanita muscaria are extremely rare.
Wikipedia even says: the North American Mycological Association has stated that there were "no reliably documented cases of death from toxins in these mushrooms in the past 100 years"
not that the experience is pleasant, since it can include nausea, hallucinations, and even delirium. (also euphoria and relaxation, so idk)
There's always a paragraph about how great your question is, three paragraphs useless or made up information you didn't ask for, then a final paragraph where it comes to a conclusion it thinks you want to hear.
Since we are "encouraged" to use the bs generator at work, ive given it honest tries. Not once has it helped. Always wasted more time than if I just figured something out myself. Constantly telling me wrong shit.
Also. I feel like its accuracy is getting worse than a few months ago, but im unsure.
The people who like and use this trash are just plain unintelligent.
*note im not referring to machine learning or actual good uses of so-called ai, just bs generators (llms).
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virku@lemmy.world · 108 pts · 303d
Every mushroom is edible at least once.
danekrae@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 303d
For some reason, the thing I found most disturbing about that sentence was the "at least".
virku@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 303d
That's kind of the point.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 303d
Some are a "once in a lifetime" experience
PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space · 5 pts · 303d
Letting the days go by...
InnerScientist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 303d
______ is edible at least once.
toofpic@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 303d
Amanita Muscaria is really edible. You will probably have shits and vomits, but you will stay alive. And as side effects, euphoria and reality alterations
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 303d
"Edible" doesn't just mean something can be consumed. It means it can be consumed safely. Otherwise, anything that can be swallowed would be "edible."
over_clox@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 303d
Meanwhile, in other circles, edible means it gets you high, so they're kinda onto something there. Though honestly, I'll pass on anything that makes me puke and gives me the shits. It's not that important to me to see a pink elephant when I look at my dog.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 303d
Although usually used as a noun rather than an adjective in that case.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 302d
Also, people who drink alchool also vomit and people who drink coffee shit a lot...this fungus seems the combination of LSD, (too much) alchool and coffee
Ashiette@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 303d
A. muscaria can be consumed safely, if you know how to prepare it.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 303d
"Is this mushroom edible?"
"Yes."
eats it
"...IF prepared properly first."
Ashiette@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 303d
The same could be said for... let's say cashew nuts. If it isn't prepared properly, it's pretty toxic.
TRock@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 302d
And apparently a cashew isn't even a nut
gdog05@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 303d
This is some Doctor Strange spellbook shit. "Why would they put the warnings at the end?"
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 303d
One of those preparations is “filtered through a shaman’s (or in some cases, a reindeer’s) kidneys.”
Yes, Inuits would sometimes drink the urine from a shaman who had eaten A. Muscaria, and I have read (but not from a scholarly source so I’m not swearing to it) that in Siberian tribes they would do the same thing but with a reindeer doing the filtering.
toofpic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 303d
Yes, sorry, I meant just "not deadly unless you're really going for it"
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 303d
Also, somehow legal when psilosybin mushrooms aren't, but Muscaria has worse effects for most people.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 303d
You can also boil it, for like 20 mins and then toss the water. Has a nice fishy texture that way. Used it for a mushroom ceviche
toofpic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 303d
oh, yes, there is a large subset of mushrooms that are "edible if you nuke them". But as I'm not eating them for survival, I don't bother. Boletes, please!
the_artic_one@programming.dev · 2 pts · 303d
I'm a fan of detoxified muscaria but I gotta agree that it's not worth the extra effort unless you can't find any decent edibles.
toofpic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 303d
There are also Blushers who are brothers to them, but without the toxic stuff. I wasn't collecting them, but you should probably check them out
the_artic_one@programming.dev · 1 pts · 302d
Blushers (section validae) are also toxic though their toxins are supposedly destroyed by heat, none of the species in my area are considered edible. Are you thinking of grisettes (section vaginata)?
I found a small Amanita constricta a couple weeks back that I dried but haven't gotten around to tasting yet.
toofpic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 302d
Amanita Rubescens - yes, you have to prepare. them (but who even eats "usual" mushrooms as-is, I always fry them, or they go in a soup. But ad I said, I never tried them - when they are there, everything else is also there, so i had no incentives to "try something new" :)
the_artic_one@programming.dev · 1 pts · 302d
Ah, that one is pretty rare in the PNW. The common blushers around here are A. augusta which is said to taste like cardboard by the few who have tested it and A. porphyria which is generally not considered edible.
kokesh@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 303d
If you eat more than really little, you won't be eating it (or anything else for that matter) ever again.
toofpic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 303d
If more is many mushrooms, then probably. But you've got to really try:)
And if you dry them, you'll get less of the "bad" ibotenic acid but keep the "interesting" muscimol
kinsnik@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 303d
fatal poisoning from Amanita muscaria are extremely rare. Wikipedia even says: the North American Mycological Association has stated that there were "no reliably documented cases of death from toxins in these mushrooms in the past 100 years"
not that the experience is pleasant, since it can include nausea, hallucinations, and even delirium. (also euphoria and relaxation, so idk)
ceenote@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 303d
And then you can ask again if it's edible and the AI will respond 'yes' again.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 303d
To be fair, it is possible to eat the mushroom. And safely, at that. Just not raw.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 303d
I've never seen an AI say yes.
There's always a paragraph about how great your question is, three paragraphs useless or made up information you didn't ask for, then a final paragraph where it comes to a conclusion it thinks you want to hear.
Dumhuvud@programming.dev · 19 pts · 303d
Please, do not anthropomorphise LLMs.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 303d
Please do not quote out of context, it makes you sound like a right wing lunatic
Dumhuvud@programming.dev · 0 pts · 302d
Pray tell, what kind of context changes the meaning of "thinks"?
pyre@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 302d
concludes based on the algorithm
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 18 pts · 303d
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 302d
Since we are "encouraged" to use the bs generator at work, ive given it honest tries. Not once has it helped. Always wasted more time than if I just figured something out myself. Constantly telling me wrong shit.
Also. I feel like its accuracy is getting worse than a few months ago, but im unsure.
The people who like and use this trash are just plain unintelligent.
*note im not referring to machine learning or actual good uses of so-called ai, just bs generators (llms).
swankypantsu@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 302d
I was able to use it to write some selfhosted flask applications in python. I'm not a programmer but it did give me a good head start.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 302d
The only thing i use LLMs for is when i can't find anything by searching myself because it's too niche
(I use Searx and DuckDuckGo to search things)
pyre@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 302d
here's my honest tries with Gemini when it replaced Google assistant on my phone
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 303d
Of course its edible. In small doses. It even gets you high as an extra. This is why Mario takes them.
Teppichbrand@feddit.org · 7 pts · 303d
Please read this non-AI information about the use of the fly amanita. I was surprised to learn how commonly and widespread it is.
Canadian_anarchist@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 302d
Interestingly enough, I looked this up recently in my not AI mushroom field guide.
mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 302d
Damn field mushrom manuals are so cool!!! They tell you every detail.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 303d
It is an excellent idea to eat this mushroom.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 303d
AI is only as useful as the person verifying its output. If you don't know how to do that, enjoy the free food I guess.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 303d
anything is edible, at least once.
ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 302d
All mushrooms are edible.. At least once..
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 2 pts · 303d
Mama mia!