spinning news paper hits front step of home in Utah
"Local family bankrupted by patron's addiction to wanking and eating shit. 'I hate Communism and love owning woke Liberals. Do you want to buy my red hat or limited edition Trump Truck Nuts? Seriously, I need the money. This is all Biden's fault, I wish that my wife couldn't vote', said farmer W. Ankerman while surveying his family's 5th generation farm at creditor liquidation auction."
Well... not according to the '25 election returns.
But they've accrued a whole lot of very sick-in-the-head GenX / Millennials with the same toxic nostalgia that poisoned the Boomers. What they didn't anticipate was the voter burnout that's plagued Democrats since the 90s coming for their new flaky, disgruntled, hyper-individualist base.
I think the news here is mostly that younger voters (and IIRC hispanics) aren't as dem-leaning as they used to be. IDK how these numbers used to look after previous elections, though, and it's worth remembering that the popular vote was very close. And that Trump bragged about manipulating the election. Doesn't really look like they "secured" any new voter bases to me.
I think I need to look it up as well but my impressions is that they made huge inroads with Gen Z males but are still underwater with Gen Z as a total. It’s just an outsized impact as younger folk tend to be reliably liberal.
Democracy falls apart when the electorate is uneducated. That's why Trump loves them, they uncritically believe anything he says. Democracy thrives when voters understand the issues and how government works, and are therefore able to make intelligent decisions.
Basically every single philospher or political theorist or whoever, throughout all of history, makes a point of saying that Democracy requires a reasonably well informed and a reasonably educated population ... as a necessary prerequisite.
Take that out at the knees, as the Republicans have been doing for 40 years, and its no wonder that Democracy seems like a dubious concept, when the average reading ability of the average US adult is that of a 6th grader.
Turns out 6th graders aren't really that knowledgeable and can be easily lied to or tricked.
In reality, politicians are influenced by money etc regardless of electorate education. Fptp and two party systems exacerbate it and entrench worse candidates.
They don't make decisions based on anything, it's just vibes. You can wreck something like a pandemic response and still be "the business guy" to most crackheads
Trump was a known serial bankruptee and fraudster even before he got into politics. He was never any kind of credible business guy, unless you get all your news from republican propaganda outlets.
21 Comments
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 276d
spinning news paper hits front step of home in Utah
"Local family bankrupted by patron's addiction to wanking and eating shit. 'I hate Communism and love owning woke Liberals. Do you want to buy my red hat or limited edition Trump Truck Nuts? Seriously, I need the money. This is all Biden's fault, I wish that my wife couldn't vote', said farmer W. Ankerman while surveying his family's 5th generation farm at creditor liquidation auction."
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 276d
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 276d
Indeed. They've secured Gen Z as their next voter base.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 276d
Well... not according to the '25 election returns.
But they've accrued a whole lot of very sick-in-the-head GenX / Millennials with the same toxic nostalgia that poisoned the Boomers. What they didn't anticipate was the voter burnout that's plagued Democrats since the 90s coming for their new flaky, disgruntled, hyper-individualist base.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 276d
Really? Guess I need to go look at the numbers again. I was told that was the goal behind focusing on podcasts and masculinity influencers.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 276d
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/
I think the news here is mostly that younger voters (and IIRC hispanics) aren't as dem-leaning as they used to be. IDK how these numbers used to look after previous elections, though, and it's worth remembering that the popular vote was very close. And that Trump bragged about manipulating the election. Doesn't really look like they "secured" any new voter bases to me.
assembly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 276d
I think I need to look it up as well but my impressions is that they made huge inroads with Gen Z males but are still underwater with Gen Z as a total. It’s just an outsized impact as younger folk tend to be reliably liberal.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 276d
Something tells me the TikTok generation may not have as much of a problem with swiping some other direction.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 276d
So close…..
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 276d
If they're even slightly believing that the rapist is somewhere even close to 'governing from the middle', I'm afraid they're still unreachable.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 7 pts · 276d
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 12 pts · 276d
I still think it’s funny that people trusted Trump over Biden for economic issues even after his handling of COVID.
Makes me wonder if democracy is fundamentally flawed.
DarkGamer@fedia.io · 20 pts · 276d
Democracy falls apart when the electorate is uneducated. That's why Trump loves them, they uncritically believe anything he says. Democracy thrives when voters understand the issues and how government works, and are therefore able to make intelligent decisions.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 276d
Ding ding ding!
Basically every single philospher or political theorist or whoever, throughout all of history, makes a point of saying that Democracy requires a reasonably well informed and a reasonably educated population ... as a necessary prerequisite.
Take that out at the knees, as the Republicans have been doing for 40 years, and its no wonder that Democracy seems like a dubious concept, when the average reading ability of the average US adult is that of a 6th grader.
Turns out 6th graders aren't really that knowledgeable and can be easily lied to or tricked.
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev · -1 pts · 276d
You can't educate your way out of corruption or money in politics.
DarkGamer@fedia.io · 1 pts · 263d
In theory informed and educated voters will choose not to elect exposed corrupt politicians.
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev · 1 pts · 263d
In reality, politicians are influenced by money etc regardless of electorate education. Fptp and two party systems exacerbate it and entrench worse candidates.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 276d
They don't make decisions based on anything, it's just vibes. You can wreck something like a pandemic response and still be "the business guy" to most crackheads
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 276d
Trump was a known serial bankruptee and fraudster even before he got into politics. He was never any kind of credible business guy, unless you get all your news from republican propaganda outlets.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 3 pts · 276d
Or from watching The Apprentice.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 276d
I think that may have been the only job he ever had that he was actually good at.
masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 276d
Difficult to say... considering that "liberal democracy" was never democratic.