It's way less recognizable as an AI "art" style to me tbh. Maybe the studio ghibli one? But I haven't really seen art from that one and it even sounds like a stretch
I'm not even against the idea¹ of using it for some shitty clip art on your corporate presentation or whatever, but it has decoupled 'images' from 'art' and 'meaning'. They are not artists, they are not making art.
¹the practice, however, being ecologically devastating makes it less desirable.
I'm partial to this only because AI makes my head spin. In theory, it sounds fine to include generated images in your presentation, and I'd be ok with that if it weren't for your caveat about the environment.
Idk if anyone else has noticed or felt the same, but whenever I look at a few AI images per minute, my headspace and eyesight feel uncomfortable. The missing intentionality, the lack of clarity in some details, the mishmash of real-world proportions with fantasy doesn't sit right with my brain, and it makes me want to look away. It feels like mental exhaustion trying to make sense out of nonsense more often than not.
E: Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:
All of those images show items out of proportion and elements like piles of raw flour meant to enhance the aesthetics, but that totally miss the point of a professional display and ultimately betray the purpose of the article. Just look at those cookies on the wall with hangers. Who would even do that in real life without using inedible materials? It feels gross.
A corporate can afford artist so they should hire artists, the situation is different for private people who may not have money to hire an artist or the skill to do themselves for their need
I have used AI to 'create' art and music for entirely personal purposes. I shared some too with friends but that's the extent of it. I would never call myself an artist or musician. People who do are delusional at best.
That's not really comparable. I never claimed drawing/painting is easier, you're hallucinating. I'm talking about the competition where generating something isn't always easy.
They can't. I argue once to check if its just a casual 'thing u heard' or a committed thing, then block the slop cultists. I swear nft's werent this annoying.
Nft's were extremely annoying, but the commitment wasnt this hard.
They were stupid and wasteful but not otherwise too horrible; they were just more and dumber collectible 'ownership' fetishism. Ignorable.
This shit destroys peoples minds entirely. People are dying over this shit. It murdered truth. It's destroyed the world economy and set back climate adaptation by at least a decade while devastating a generation's labor practices. And because it's so horrible, the cultists are more fanatical, like how those people who sacrificed their kids to rfkjr cannot be rational or sane ever the fuck again.
Wow there is a lot packed into this comment, which I mostly agree with.
Dumb collectible "ownership" fetishism
Delusion epidemic due to AI addiction
Decades-long Climate adaptation setback
Devastating labor practices
Cult doomsday syndrome reinforcing false beliefs
Vaccine skepticism popularity and health outcomes
I am still baffled by how you managed to stuff the entirety of endstage capitalism dystopia into two short sentences. No wonder the word "fatigue" is featured in the username!
But I came here to point out that the last part is possible occurence of cognitive dissonance. When they have fucked up so badly, by commiting to such big evils, and especially sacrificing their kids health, yeah, there is no way back... Cognitive dissonance makes it impossible to admit the harm, so they are bound to reinforce the beliefs or face tremendous levels of guilt.
Well, many people are not aware of the link between their ChatGPT projects and the rise in their electricity bill, nor the foreshadowed electricity drought. Contrary to what corpos had people believe about their "individual responsibility via recycling" their individual contribution to these outcomes is now actively suppressed by the billionaire-owned media. Curious.
"strip out" implies it was there at all in the first place. I don't know how you include an absolute date in a screenshot when no absolute date is actually displayed. I guess maybe hover over the relative time and hope that whatever OS or screenshot utility being used doesn't cause a tooltip to disappear
it's just one of so many things about software and websites in the past 5 years or so, everything must always be a relative date, with finding absolute dates and times being way more of a pain in the ass than it should be.
I don't think relative dates is associated with proprietary software or enshitification. I'm using Lemmy over Jerboa (both FLOSS and not enshitified) and it uses relative dates.
Of course a hand drawn image by someone who can draw well is better - the artist practiced for years and took hours to draw this. On the other hand whoever took second place used a few minutes and had no training to produce something that was probably quite nice, too.
It's this 'everybody can produce art in seconds' that is both good and bad. On the one hand I like how I can get a image of whatever I want for pennies, on the other hand I can understand how artist fear devaluation of their art.
Unpopular opinion here, but I feel like AI "art" will make my art the handmade furniture of art. AI art will forever be seen as cheap and my stuff, even if crappy, will be appreciated because a real person made it.
Lots of revenue streams to be lost along the way though. Mostly corporate and marketing ones, I reckon.
i would wash that keyboard. cat poop often contains worm eggs and other disgusting things. it sticks to everything that the cat touched with its ass. better clean the keyboard thoroughly.
I thought it was a pretty bizarre idea, to submit real art to a garbage fake art contest. And then post about it like it makes an obvious point or something. Not sure why they did that or what they think it means that they won
Edit: I take it the downvoters don't understand it either.
Human art, even when claimed to be AI, conveys emotion and connects with people through it. Generative images lack the expression of emotion, and so they are found lacking connection when compared to art from a human of even moderate skill.
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hansolo@lemmy.today · 153 pts · 282d
People did notice it wasnt AI. It was good.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 94 pts · 282d
It's clearly not AI because it doesn't have weird uncanny and wonky shit. Also the text on the monitor is readable even though it's blurry
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 281d
Ai image generators can pretty reliably do text now
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 281d
Not at that scale, they can do larger text fine but at a certain size it just breaks down
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 281d
However, it is cool that she recreated that AI look to trick them.
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 280d
It's way less recognizable as an AI "art" style to me tbh. Maybe the studio ghibli one? But I haven't really seen art from that one and it even sounds like a stretch
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
it does look like that AI version of Ghibli. not like Ghibli directly
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 280d
Exactly what I thought about the text
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 58 pts · 282d
How dare you cheat and submit human-generated content to an honest AI competition? Entrants spent literally minutes crafting and refining prompts.
:::spoiler spoiler /S :::
StrongHorseWeakNeigh@piefed.social · 53 pts · 282d
That is such a cute picture
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 46 pts · 281d
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 281d
I'm not even against the idea¹ of using it for some shitty clip art on your corporate presentation or whatever, but it has decoupled 'images' from 'art' and 'meaning'. They are not artists, they are not making art.
¹the practice, however, being ecologically devastating makes it less desirable.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 281d
I'm partial to this only because AI makes my head spin. In theory, it sounds fine to include generated images in your presentation, and I'd be ok with that if it weren't for your caveat about the environment.
Idk if anyone else has noticed or felt the same, but whenever I look at a few AI images per minute, my headspace and eyesight feel uncomfortable. The missing intentionality, the lack of clarity in some details, the mishmash of real-world proportions with fantasy doesn't sit right with my brain, and it makes me want to look away. It feels like mental exhaustion trying to make sense out of nonsense more often than not.
E: Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:
https://thismakesthat.com/bakery-display-ideas/
https://thismakesthat.com/cookie-display-ideas/
All of those images show items out of proportion and elements like piles of raw flour meant to enhance the aesthetics, but that totally miss the point of a professional display and ultimately betray the purpose of the article. Just look at those cookies on the wall with hangers. Who would even do that in real life without using inedible materials? It feels gross.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 281d
Its extremely uncanny and kinda stupid.
But as long as i dont focus or get interested in details, it doesnt hurt physically.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
Uncanny is the word. It feels like it's going to hurt physically.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 281d
It does when i try to focus on anything!
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 4 pts · 281d
A corporate can afford artist so they should hire artists, the situation is different for private people who may not have money to hire an artist or the skill to do themselves for their need
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 280d
Concept applies, and you cannot get that authorized for Friday's weekly bullshit meeting.
AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 281d
I have used AI to 'create' art and music for entirely personal purposes. I shared some too with friends but that's the extent of it. I would never call myself an artist or musician. People who do are delusional at best.
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 280d
My MIL paid some AI “creator” company to write a song for her husbands birthday.
Cost her $200 for a 90 second song…
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 280d
REDACTED@infosec.pub · -6 pts · 281d
Generate an advanced, good looking image using ComfyUI and report back how easy it was. Shit's breaking my mind and I'm good with computers.
Just to give others an idea: https://learn.thinkdiffusion.com/a-list-of-the-best-comfyui-workflows/
But then again, I'm talking about generating stuff locally.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 281d
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 280d
That's not really comparable. I never claimed drawing/painting is easier, you're hallucinating. I'm talking about the competition where generating something isn't always easy.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 280d
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 280d
I literally proved you it requires skills by providing a page of example workflows. Are you still hallucinating?
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 280d
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 281d
I hope people keep doing this. It's a few times now lol. Fuck Ai.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 281d
You'll be one of the first they come after.
Bakkoda@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 281d
The basilisk has detected an anomaly.
marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 281d
Is this the reverse Turing test? It can be used to gauge if hominid hype followers can "really" think...
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 281d
They can't. I argue once to check if its just a casual 'thing u heard' or a committed thing, then block the slop cultists. I swear nft's werent this annoying.
awful_neutral@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 281d
NFTs definitely were this annoying, but I also think its the same people doing it now with AI, so maybe its just the people who are annoying
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 281d
Nft's were extremely annoying, but the commitment wasnt this hard.
They were stupid and wasteful but not otherwise too horrible; they were just more and dumber collectible 'ownership' fetishism. Ignorable.
This shit destroys peoples minds entirely. People are dying over this shit. It murdered truth. It's destroyed the world economy and set back climate adaptation by at least a decade while devastating a generation's labor practices. And because it's so horrible, the cultists are more fanatical, like how those people who sacrificed their kids to rfkjr cannot be rational or sane ever the fuck again.
marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 281d
Wow there is a lot packed into this comment, which I mostly agree with.
I am still baffled by how you managed to stuff the entirety of endstage capitalism dystopia into two short sentences. No wonder the word "fatigue" is featured in the username!
But I came here to point out that the last part is possible occurence of cognitive dissonance. When they have fucked up so badly, by commiting to such big evils, and especially sacrificing their kids health, yeah, there is no way back... Cognitive dissonance makes it impossible to admit the harm, so they are bound to reinforce the beliefs or face tremendous levels of guilt.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 281d
Was that really worth making the lights flicker on the Midwest grid?
marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 281d
Well, many people are not aware of the link between their ChatGPT projects and the rise in their electricity bill, nor the foreshadowed electricity drought. Contrary to what corpos had people believe about their "individual responsibility via recycling" their individual contribution to these outcomes is now actively suppressed by the billionaire-owned media. Curious.
jaselle@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 280d
this is like a 2 year old meme at this point. Please don't strip out the date when you take a screenshot of social media.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 12 pts · 280d
"strip out" implies it was there at all in the first place. I don't know how you include an absolute date in a screenshot when no absolute date is actually displayed. I guess maybe hover over the relative time and hope that whatever OS or screenshot utility being used doesn't cause a tooltip to disappear
jaselle@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 280d
fair enough; I don't use proprietary sm anyway so I don't know what's common there.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 3 pts · 280d
it's just one of so many things about software and websites in the past 5 years or so, everything must always be a relative date, with finding absolute dates and times being way more of a pain in the ass than it should be.
tiny but noticeable bit of enshittification :<
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 280d
I don't think relative dates is associated with proprietary software or enshitification. I'm using Lemmy over Jerboa (both FLOSS and not enshitified) and it uses relative dates.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 1 pts · 280d
I didn't imply anything about licensing. It sucks no matter if its in proprietary or f/oss software.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 3 pts · 280d
Not you, the comment prior.
jaselle@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 280d
enshittification is user-negative changes which somehow benefit the software creators. I'm not sure relative dates qualify.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 280d
When was your comment made? I didn't strip out any information.
zerofk@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 280d
3 hours ago of course.
Which means you replied to a comment 10 hours before it was posted.
Magnum@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 280d
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 281d
So, was it the first time you found out that you were AI? Or did you suspect beforehand?
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 281d
Wow is it almost to the point humans can make art that looks real?
wilfim@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 281d
I fucking love cats so much!!!!
Xerxos@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 281d
Of course a hand drawn image by someone who can draw well is better - the artist practiced for years and took hours to draw this. On the other hand whoever took second place used a few minutes and had no training to produce something that was probably quite nice, too.
It's this 'everybody can produce art in seconds' that is both good and bad. On the one hand I like how I can get a image of whatever I want for pennies, on the other hand I can understand how artist fear devaluation of their art.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 280d
Unpopular opinion here, but I feel like AI "art" will make my art the handmade furniture of art. AI art will forever be seen as cheap and my stuff, even if crappy, will be appreciated because a real person made it.
Lots of revenue streams to be lost along the way though. Mostly corporate and marketing ones, I reckon.
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 8 pts · 281d
Alfredo Inshtine over here.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 281d
I managed to coax some remarkable (to me) artwork from some of the free generators. Got bored real quick though.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 3 pts · 281d
Please don't call it "artwork" because it's not art nor work, call it "image"
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · -2 pts · 280d
i would wash that keyboard. cat poop often contains worm eggs and other disgusting things. it sticks to everything that the cat touched with its ass. better clean the keyboard thoroughly.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · -58 pts · 282d
so their art is so bad it was mistaken for ai? weird flex but ok.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 62 pts · 282d
More like, "This is the only one that doesn't look like shit."
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · -40 pts · 282d
more like "ooble gooble mordi bordi"
nailbar@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 281d
Well yeah, if you put it that way...
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · -12 pts · 281d
Another win for ricky.
RabbleRebel@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 281d
Good point.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 281d
psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 281d
Like a cold butter knife through concrete.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 281d
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · -4 pts · 281d
But consider the old adage that a dull knife is a dangerous knife.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 281d
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · -3 pts · 281d
awful_neutral@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 281d
It won an AI art competition... because all the actual AI art was shit
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 281d
I thought it was a pretty bizarre idea, to submit real art to a garbage fake art contest. And then post about it like it makes an obvious point or something. Not sure why they did that or what they think it means that they won
Edit: I take it the downvoters don't understand it either.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
i mean, if the contest has a prize it'd be some easy money and practice. nobody wants to be a starving artist
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 281d
I guess that's true. I just wouldn't want the stank of AI on my work
untorquer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Human art, even when claimed to be AI, conveys emotion and connects with people through it. Generative images lack the expression of emotion, and so they are found lacking connection when compared to art from a human of even moderate skill.