Three days of no starbucks. No flight attendants. No UBERS. No amazon deliveries. No teachers. No grocery stores. No gas stations. No "admins". No truck drivers.

Seems like three days of sit down and let them do it themselves would work.

Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 311d (1 reply)

It would be just easier, in an event of shutdown, to freeze all the assets of all members of Congress and Senate. You'll see how fast they'll reach an agreement when it's their money on the table and not someone else's.

Carighan@piefed.world · 9 pts · 310d

Pay all federal employees from the personal money of the current administration if they fuck up something like the federal budget. 💡

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tal@lemmy.today · 45 pts · 311d (2 replies)

Strong words for a man who travels by personal aircraft even when he's not President and whose priority in holding patterns is up to the discretion of air traffic controllers.

ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 311d

Keep him up there until he's low on fuel then have him turn around.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 310d

Its actually private flights that are getting impacted the most, or at least that was the claim of some article bitching about it.

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 311d (12 replies)

not an air traffic controller but I assume it's a pretty high demand job. would be a shame if all controllers started a general strike and froze air traffic for weeks just to prove a point.

not like this administration could entice anyone outside the US to work in this shithole anyway.

what's the worst they'll do? chain you to the desk and make you work at gunpoi-- yeah... they'd probably do that...

NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 21 pts · 311d (4 replies)

I'm not american but I think "the worse they can do" is the issue here, they introduced laws allowing atc to be imprisoned if they strike. Their options really are limited to claiming to be unwell

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 311d (3 replies)

could just quit.

"sorry, I've decided to a change in careers is beneficial to my health."

NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 311d (2 replies)

Good idea, I read somewhere that's happening already with normal resignations being 1-2/day being closer to 20/day

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 310d (1 reply)

that's impressive tbh. with numbers like that though it would take almost two years for a collapse to happen.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 310d

Mid air collisions will happen much sooner than that.

Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 310d

what's the worst they'll do? chain you to the desk and make you work at gunpoi-- yeah... they'd probably do that...

Yeah, he probably would. Luckily He doesn't have enough ICE agents to do that. And as ICE is his only personal army, that's the force he'd have to use.

In other words, he's all talk, he's out of cards to play here.

XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 310d (5 replies)

They went on strike in the Reagan era and then got fired and replaced.

Blackmist@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 310d

"I know, we'll replace them with AI!"

✈️💥

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 310d

may have worked then, but I doubt it will work this time.

NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 310d

then got fired and replaced.

From what i've heard the numbers never actually came back. All of them got fired but only some of them got replaced. I suspect most current ATC's know this. Nobody is gonna want to work that thankless job if the fed is firing everybody because they wont resolve the poor working conditions every few decades.

FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 310d

And Reagan made it illegal for them to strike ever again.

Rooster326@programming.dev · 3 pts · 310d

They didn't just get fired.

They were black listed from ALL federal government positions. That includes being an Air Traffic Controller. Now Bill Clinton eventually lifted the ban but that took 12 years and even then - very very few were hired back.

bagsy@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 311d (4 replies)

He hates to be told no. Everyone hear that? The word no really irritate trump.

XTL@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 311d (1 reply)

Basic dictator.

knightly@pawb.social · 9 pts · 310d

SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one · 12 pts · 311d (1 reply)

Fascists hate the concept of 'no'. They can't comprehend not being obeyed.

On another note, Bede Polding College in Australia decided to hand out an on-the-spot suspension for saying 'no' to a teacher some years back.

Funny that.

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 310d

Maybe I am a violent Californian but if I was in a college that would suspend me for saying no to a teacher I'm going to punch someone at that point. May as well earn that suspension.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 311d

Fuck that guy

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bagsy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 311d

Rich people just dont like being told no. The rich want to fly, and they are absolutely livid that the poors are saying no.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 310d

In what is a highly trained, extremely stressful job with more direct responsibility than a typical cardiologist. But we value people who shuffle papers on Wall Street 20-2000x more.

Just wait for Musk to offer an AI solution.

BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 310d

Honestly, any institution/profession with any altruism America sort of takes personally.

olbaidiablo@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 310d

This reminds me of this idiot manager we had at work once. He said he was going to lean on our vendors to get better prices. What ended up happening was the vendors one by one decided it wasn't worth it until only one was left, they realized they had a monopoly and doubled their prices every quarter for the next 3 quarters. This is the problem with idiots who have never had a real job, they don't understand how regular people think or what their motivations are.

YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 311d (1 reply)

THANKYOUFORYOURATTENTIONINTHISMATTER!

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 311d

- DJT (President (USA))

apftwb@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 311d

Those ATC guys should really consider forming a union...

Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de · 21 pts · 311d (2 replies)

Air Traffic Control is undermaned. They have some of the crazies requirements to getting a job and forced retirement. All this was due to Reagen in 1981. That ws 44 years ago and we still haven't fixed this damage. Add the increased influence by private companies and I will be driving or walking everywhere.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 311d (1 reply)

Idk if you live near the borders but flying out of canada is an option for some people

Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 311d

Yeah but not a real option to most people.

Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 311d (2 replies)

Art of the deal

fartographer@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 311d

Fart on the meal

wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 310d

🦭💨

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 310d

Ugh, three more years of this shit. I dont want to age faster, but fuck me, Ill happily speed run this just to never hear about this cunt again.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 311d

Anybody whose dealt with trump can tell you he's hardest on the people that don't fight him. If air traffic controllers don't make a stand he's going to fuck them over hard.

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TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 311d (1 reply)

That's not true. I have a friend, he's a really good guy, has a weird haircut though, haha, but a good guy, it's true. Kim. Kim. A guy called Kim, can you believe it? I call him rocket man. He's really smart. Not as smart as me, but almost. He is very successful in running his country, it's called North Korea, have you heard of it? Korea, I love to say the word Korea. Lovely place he has. Kim is so smart, he has people working for him for free, and everyone is happy he tells me. They all love him so much, just like everyone loves me, it's true. I love talking to him, he is very, how do you day this, inspirational. What he can do, I can do too, but better because I'm smarter of course. Everyone knows that.

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sleepmode@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 311d

When he gets upset, he's playing his hand. I hope the call-outs completely fuck up the holiday flights so he continues to feel the heat from it.

Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 311d

What a soggy sack of shit.

Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 10 pts · 311d

Good. Let him be unhappy. I support any ATC workers not working while unpaid.

NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 310d (1 reply)

I think as a child I dreamed of being an air traffic controller, but then I learned the movie, Pushing Tin was not real life, and I can't stand on a runway under a landing jetliner even if I have the credentials.

Rooster326@programming.dev · 2 pts · 310d

I can't stand on a runway under a landing jetliner even if I have the credentials.

They will let you do it at least once

umbrella@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 311d

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