CHAT CONTROL 2.0 THROUGH THE BACK DOOR – Breyer warns: "The EU is playing us for fools – now they’re scanning our texts and banning teens!"
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-through-the-back-door-breyer-warns-the-eu-is-playing-us-for-fools-now-theyre-scanning-our-texts-and-banning-teens/
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nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 307d
Just another brick in the road to fascism. No privacy make it harder to organize and protest.
sp3ctre@feddit.org · 18 pts · 307d
So, the only question should be: What do we do about it?
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 307d
Not your privacy keys, not your security.
You need to encrypt your data before sending it through any app and have an easy method to share private keys with your contacts, preferably anonymously without association of phone numbers etc.
Relying on any centralized app network will always expose you to their security backdoors. We need on device cryptography that encrypts data before it goes to WhatsApp or Signals servers.
Even if they allow a govt agency to read encrypted streams, it will be a garbled mess.
AwakenedAce@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 307d
Signal is on device cryptography, that's the whole point of E2EE. Same for WhatsApp theoretically so iirc it just leaks a shit ton of metadata.
This is more the stage of needing off device cryptography that you then paste into the messenger because the backdoor would be on your device but before the message is encrypted and sent
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 307d
Or double encryption.
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 307d
We need laws to the oposite, granting a right to privacy.
Sepia@mander.xyz · 10 pts · 307d
Yeah, we see where such surveillance ends when we look to China.
BeerEnjoyer@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 307d
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 307d
We have to always be on guard and win every time, but they only have to succeed once.
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 307d
Remember the war that will come some time after 2027 that Tusk mentioned. Free information makes winning that war more difficult.
anytimesoon@piefed.social · 1 pts · 307d
Which war is this referencing?
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 307d
https://feddit.org/post/16373509
anytimesoon@piefed.social · 1 pts · 307d
Maybe I'm missing something?
The article says nothing of Tusk or his prediction of a war
plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 307d
anytimesoon@piefed.social · 2 pts · 306d
Not sure how I missed that 🙂
Thank you
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 307d
here we go again. God damet!
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 307d
The cycles seem to be speeding up.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 307d
Because with every day of ICE surveillance, the politicians in the EU understand more and more how useful all that data is when trying to build a fascist regime. And considering that in all these proposals they always exclude themselves from accountability, fascism is exactly what they aspire to.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 307d
I'm building a takedown-safe encrypted sharing protocol (& implementation). You can build a chat in top of that and no regulator could ever take it down.
Want to help? Spend 5 minutes trying out the new web prototype (it's just downloading theough a web page, very simple) and tell how it went here!
We should actively fight back IMO.
It's all FOSS ofcoure.
Cheers
/Valmond
eleijeep@piefed.social · 2 pts · 307d
There are endless protocols to build censorship-resistant secure peer to peer messaging on. The problem is that nobody uses them.
The most recent one in my memory was Veilid. Is anyone using anything built on that?
Do you think that your protocol will achieve more usage than one that was announced at DEFCON by cDc members?
Valmond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 307d
Not everyone needs the limelight. Crypto apes are way more known than the Tenfingers sharing protocol, but that doesn't keep me up at night ☺️.
I haven't checked out Veilid enough but for some other protocols I have made a comparative here.
iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 307d
Who submitted it this time?
verdi@feddit.org · 3 pts · 307d
Again the Danes...
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 14 pts · 307d
I remember when China was the boogie man of surveillance until the rest went 'hold my beer'. What the fuck is going on?
altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 306d
I don't know, but Chase is on the case!
Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 307d
Qith this being a clear sign of fascism, I wonder if were these policies to be implemented, is there a good change that when fascism is defeated, that we can undo such policies?
Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 307d
When fascism is defeated there historically are several outcomes
So the chance is not that good, luckily we do not yet are in fascism in the EU. We have some traits that are fullfilled and signs more will be but it can still be prevented in the EU.
The US on the other hand is fucked.