and then what? What will you do next to shift the burden? You demand three pieces of evidence for every claim? You dismiss each one because of some reason even though a judge found it met the standards? How much work are you willing to engage in to avoid confronting the overwhelming amount of claims backed by evidence?
There's a massive cloud of smoke coming from the woods, we caught a guy coming out from there, we're asking him to show us if that gasoline jerrycan-shaped object in the plastic bag that he's holding is in fact a gas jerrycan, but he's still refusing.
And you come out from the toilets "but how do you know that there's a fire"?
I've heard of motivated reasoning, I've never heard of motivated stupidity. I appreciate the intro. Please remember to hydrate after your afternoon window licking session.
All the photos of Trump and Epstein, personalized birthday card, Epstein emails, Alex Acosta promotion, Pam Bondi promotion. All this other stuff put Trump and his cronies 100% as perpetrators and accomplices.
Actually thinking that there are OVER ONE HUNDRED MILLION people in the US who think FAVORABLY of child molestation is deep, deep brain rot. You've dived to a seriously dangerous depth of radicalized dehumanization. And dehumanization kicks the door to atrocity wide open.
You're literally on the same ideological level as the Pizzagate-rs right now, do you really not realize that?
Do you feel like you need someone to be THAT evil for you to justify opposing them?
They seem to, at best, not care enough about child molestation to stop supporting their political 'team'. I know a lot of that has to do with Fox propaganda and other media lies, as well as general ignorance. But here we are - a rapist leader of the GOP who has arranged for child molestester to get off easy. The party is going through contortions to avoid releasing files that expose child rapists. Their spokesperson now questions if child rape is really that bad. - Anyone who continues to support the GOP as it is now deserves the label 'pedo supporter'.
They seem to, at best, not care enough about child molestation to stop supporting their political ‘team’.
Many, many people are single-issue voters. As one example, if someone genuinely believes that abortion is equivalent to murder, it can be very difficult for them to justify voting against a pro-life candidate, even if they agree with them on nothing else. It's been found that one's views on abortion (in either direction) will trump (pardon the pun) everything else for a whopping THIRD of all voters. And that's just one of the myriad things that could be someone's 'single issue'.
Because of the way our voting system works, and the fact that there are only two candidates, it's very inaccurate overall to equivocate a vote for a candidate to a vote for a specific X that said candidate did or endorsed, etc. The same kinds of rhetorical 'games' are played with legislation. A bill has X provisions in it, one of them is a dealbreaker for congressperson Y, so they vote against it, and later, that person is criticized by their opponents for "voting against" any/all of the other X-1 provisions.
I know it's easier and takes a lot less brainpower to just assume that everyone who votes for the Other Candidate is emphatically supportive of the worst thing that person ever did, but that just isn't the reality, and only adds to the polarization that is deteriorating political discourse in the present day.
There is no shortage of real things to criticize—there is no justification for these absurd generalizations of massive swaths of citizens.
Have you seen how many MAGA politicians have been arrested for CSAM? Since Trump has been elected it's about one big case a week. If you want I can get you some links. Even one of the J6 rioters is on the mix. Trump pardoned him.
I have this idea that the attraction to authoritarians that think they are above the laws is the same mental defect that makes people think sex with kids is okay.
This is like asking someone to provide evidence that the world trade center buildings collapsed. All of this is well known and easily findable. And we all know you've seen it. Dumbest sealioning I've seen recently.
Oh, you mean the files that your heroes work tirelessly to keep secret? Yeah I fuckin wonder why we don't have access to them. Probably won't release them because he's innocent lol
Or would you prefer the many documented cases of him raping adults? I am guessing you totally acknowledge that evidence because you're so intellectually honest.
Attacked? That wasn't even in my thoughts. It looked to me like moving the goal posts. I don't know why you decided that Trump being a pedo or MAGA defending him wasn't the subject here but I do know that you decided to go on a rant about Biden that wasn't even tangential to the subject at hand.
I wasn't attacked. That's just you making up an excuse to not listen. You were doing whataboutism. If you want to complain about Biden then go create a meme and post it. I might even like it because I could sure use less Biden. But to come into this with "I wish there was less Biden. Let me tell you about Biden, the person I want to never hear about again. Just to be clear I am talking about something I don't want anyone else to talk about. He lives rent free in my head so I have to turn every conversation into something about Biden, the guy I don't want anyone to talk about.
I understand how easy it is to persuade crowds to believe things. Just keep blaring the message you want them to hear until a few of them start chanting along, and once it becomes a normal idea to have it will keep spreading, and by tying it in with the things they do believe in: maybe racism, maybe the illusion of fairness, or maybe a thin veneer of communism; suddenly the message becomes a part of their own identity by being attached to those thoughts and feelings they already had.
What I don't understand is not how or why, what I want to know is simply how did they become these sort of creatures in the first place when so many of us do not. Are we all equally susceptible or are there two breeds of human alive on this earth? Is it genetic or is it learned? I simply cannot bring myself to relate.
It starts with unhappiness and the belief that you are always right. Then it goes to "it's okay to do bad things because I'm a good person." Then things degrade from there under any leader that tells you what you want to hear.
57 Comments
rafoix@lemmy.zip · 95 pts · 290d
Biden is 100% a creepy old man but there is no credible evidence that he is a pedo.
Trump is a pedophile. The only thing that is unknown is the extent that he molested his kids.
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · -80 pts · 290d
Like in the meme, please present the mountains of evidence you have
9point6@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 290d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_of_Donald_Trump_and_Jeffrey_Epstein
There's a nice overview with over 100 citations to various sources for everything claimed.
Almost anyone else on the planet would have been locked up for a long time with only a fraction of that evidence
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 290d
I like how they keep spouting off to others to post evidence but never replied to you actually giving them evidence.
joelfromaus@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 288d
I can’t believe you’d link to the radical left wing woke Fakepedia instead of the fact based Grokpedia. /S
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 289d
Please point out the specific parts that you consider to be "proof"
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 289d
and then what? What will you do next to shift the burden? You demand three pieces of evidence for every claim? You dismiss each one because of some reason even though a judge found it met the standards? How much work are you willing to engage in to avoid confronting the overwhelming amount of claims backed by evidence?
ByteJunk@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 290d
There's a massive cloud of smoke coming from the woods, we caught a guy coming out from there, we're asking him to show us if that gasoline jerrycan-shaped object in the plastic bag that he's holding is in fact a gas jerrycan, but he's still refusing.
And you come out from the toilets "but how do you know that there's a fire"?
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · -40 pts · 290d
That would work if you could prove there was even a guy with a jerry can.
Soulg@ani.social · 19 pts · 290d
Are you insinuating that the entire concept of the pedophile ring is fake?
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 287d
I'm insinuating it's stupid
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 287d
You didn't answer the question
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 290d
I've heard of motivated reasoning, I've never heard of motivated stupidity. I appreciate the intro. Please remember to hydrate after your afternoon window licking session.
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 287d
Wow you're so clever
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 286d
Thanks! Go fuck yourself!
ByteJunk@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 289d
Says the guy holding the fucking jerrycan.
Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 290d
I have a simple question for you, have you read the depositions alleging first hand that he violently raped a 14 year old?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 290d
FaKe NeWs, they cried.
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 289d
Link please!
Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 289d
I can't force you to care enough to Google that shit yourself. But then if you cared, you wouldn't be peddling lies protecting a pedophile.
They're official documents. Look it up if you care or ignore it.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 290d
Sweet username.
How about his just publicly televised self admission that he would intrude into the changing room during beauty pageants he ran?
And also. Super sweet username. All the best.
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · -51 pts · 290d
It is a good username, thank you. Again, evidence or gtfo. You guys are worse than the pizzagate idiots
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 289d
https://fullfact.org/us/trump-pageant-quote-misleading/
Damn shame about your head buddy. Get well soon.
Zoot@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 289d
Maybe you should reply to the guy who provided links then. You guys are worse than Russian troll farms
rafoix@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 290d
Trump is GOP. Group of pedophiles.
That alone is 99% probability.
All the photos of Trump and Epstein, personalized birthday card, Epstein emails, Alex Acosta promotion, Pam Bondi promotion. All this other stuff put Trump and his cronies 100% as perpetrators and accomplices.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 288d
Are you seriously implying that 99% of self-identified Republicans are pedophiles?
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 288d
100% are pedo supporters.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 287d
Actually thinking that there are OVER ONE HUNDRED MILLION people in the US who think FAVORABLY of child molestation is deep, deep brain rot. You've dived to a seriously dangerous depth of radicalized dehumanization. And dehumanization kicks the door to atrocity wide open.
You're literally on the same ideological level as the Pizzagate-rs right now, do you really not realize that?
Do you feel like you need someone to be THAT evil for you to justify opposing them?
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 287d
They seem to, at best, not care enough about child molestation to stop supporting their political 'team'. I know a lot of that has to do with Fox propaganda and other media lies, as well as general ignorance. But here we are - a rapist leader of the GOP who has arranged for child molestester to get off easy. The party is going through contortions to avoid releasing files that expose child rapists. Their spokesperson now questions if child rape is really that bad. - Anyone who continues to support the GOP as it is now deserves the label 'pedo supporter'.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 286d
Many, many people are single-issue voters. As one example, if someone genuinely believes that abortion is equivalent to murder, it can be very difficult for them to justify voting against a pro-life candidate, even if they agree with them on nothing else. It's been found that one's views on abortion (in either direction) will trump (pardon the pun) everything else for a whopping THIRD of all voters. And that's just one of the myriad things that could be someone's 'single issue'.
Because of the way our voting system works, and the fact that there are only two candidates, it's very inaccurate overall to equivocate a vote for a candidate to a vote for a specific X that said candidate did or endorsed, etc. The same kinds of rhetorical 'games' are played with legislation. A bill has X provisions in it, one of them is a dealbreaker for congressperson Y, so they vote against it, and later, that person is criticized by their opponents for "voting against" any/all of the other X-1 provisions.
I know it's easier and takes a lot less brainpower to just assume that everyone who votes for the Other Candidate is emphatically supportive of the worst thing that person ever did, but that just isn't the reality, and only adds to the polarization that is deteriorating political discourse in the present day.
There is no shortage of real things to criticize—there is no justification for these absurd generalizations of massive swaths of citizens.
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · -36 pts · 290d
Right, that's less evidence than fucking pizzagate. Yeah 100%. Link to evidence or gtfo.
rafoix@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 290d
You’re a pedophile defender.
ghostlychonk@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 290d
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 288d
For fucks sake you people are stupid
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 287d
Have you seen how many MAGA politicians have been arrested for CSAM? Since Trump has been elected it's about one big case a week. If you want I can get you some links. Even one of the J6 rioters is on the mix. Trump pardoned him.
I have this idea that the attraction to authoritarians that think they are above the laws is the same mental defect that makes people think sex with kids is okay.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 290d
This is like asking someone to provide evidence that the world trade center buildings collapsed. All of this is well known and easily findable. And we all know you've seen it. Dumbest sealioning I've seen recently.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 290d
Oh, you mean the files that your heroes work tirelessly to keep secret? Yeah I fuckin wonder why we don't have access to them. Probably won't release them because he's innocent lol
Or would you prefer the many documented cases of him raping adults? I am guessing you totally acknowledge that evidence because you're so intellectually honest.
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world · -29 pts · 290d
I don't have any heroes. Link evidence or gtfo
Serinus@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 290d
"nuh uh" is shorter. Might save you some time when people continually post evidence.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 290d
Like a trump supporter gives a shit about evidence
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 289d
It is okay to dislike or even hate Biden. Please do so for real reasons, not smear campaigns invented by the Grand Old Pedo party.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 289d
You seem to think that this is calling Biden a pedo. This is calling out the people that call Biden a pedo. It's all in the text.
phar@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 289d
You are reading his response completely wrong
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 289d
Nope, just pointing out the right smeared Biden as a pedophile.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 289d
And you think that wasn't explicitly covered in the image? That's on you then
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 289d
Wow, you are toxic.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 289d
You repeat an exact point that is in the post as though it's an idea you came up with and then call shedding light on that behavior toxic?
Jhex@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 290d
the only requirement for people to believe a lie, is that they want to believe the lie
ameancow@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 290d
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 290d
This post isn't about Biden. It's about Trump supporters and how willingly they will believe something or ignore something.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 290d
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 290d
That wasn't the issue and you know it.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 290d
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 289d
Attacked? That wasn't even in my thoughts. It looked to me like moving the goal posts. I don't know why you decided that Trump being a pedo or MAGA defending him wasn't the subject here but I do know that you decided to go on a rant about Biden that wasn't even tangential to the subject at hand.
I wasn't attacked. That's just you making up an excuse to not listen. You were doing whataboutism. If you want to complain about Biden then go create a meme and post it. I might even like it because I could sure use less Biden. But to come into this with "I wish there was less Biden. Let me tell you about Biden, the person I want to never hear about again. Just to be clear I am talking about something I don't want anyone else to talk about. He lives rent free in my head so I have to turn every conversation into something about Biden, the guy I don't want anyone to talk about.
It looked like you had a bad motivator unit.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 289d
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 289d
Be the change you want to see in the world. If you don't want to hear about Biden then don't talk about Biden.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 289d
Wat da OP doin’
FrowingFostek@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
There's no comparison to be made and I wish people would stop running defense for centrist liberals.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
I understand how easy it is to persuade crowds to believe things. Just keep blaring the message you want them to hear until a few of them start chanting along, and once it becomes a normal idea to have it will keep spreading, and by tying it in with the things they do believe in: maybe racism, maybe the illusion of fairness, or maybe a thin veneer of communism; suddenly the message becomes a part of their own identity by being attached to those thoughts and feelings they already had.
What I don't understand is not how or why, what I want to know is simply how did they become these sort of creatures in the first place when so many of us do not. Are we all equally susceptible or are there two breeds of human alive on this earth? Is it genetic or is it learned? I simply cannot bring myself to relate.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 289d
It starts with unhappiness and the belief that you are always right. Then it goes to "it's okay to do bad things because I'm a good person." Then things degrade from there under any leader that tells you what you want to hear.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
I wouldn't describe myself as having grown up happy, nor do I imagine a lot of the privileged and wealthy who now push extreme beliefs were unhappy.