[Discussion] Should this community also cover the Steam Machine and/or Steam Frame?

I'd say yes. If the volume becomes overwhelming new communities can easily be created.

Personally, I like the idea of becoming more of a "Steam Hardwares" community, as them being all kinda niche but close in scope, they shouldn't conflict with each other nor turn the community into a too generalist one.

I'd love to see them included, honestly. it seems they're all part of the same family.

Absolutely. I would rather have one great community instead of 3 hyper specific communities. It just needs to have flags like [steamdeck] [ steammachine] [steamframe] Or even shorthand sd, sm, sf.

Yes.

We are the niche of a niche. We need more content, as long as it's relevant.

I am completely fine with having this community for steam hardware. I don't think it would be beneficial to have 10 smaller communities instead of one big. Lemmy is not a huge platform at the moment

Yes. Anything to grow communities. The fediverse is not in the restrictive limiting of communities time in its evolution. The fediverse is in the we need more numbers phase. You need a lot more people to be worried about this kind of thing. Right now you just need more people making more post and making more comments.

Yes. We don't need even more fragmentation on the fediverse.

Yes; it makes no sense to have multiple communities when the Steam Machine and Steam Frame are so similar to the Steam Deck. It may be that in the future it makes sense to split out topics if their isn't overlap, but I'd say the community isn't flooded with content and there is a lot of overlap between these topics that will benefit everyone.

Definitely yes, they all run Steam OS and all 3 device are very interchangeable in what they offer. Plus there's not that much people to properly support 3 different communities.

yes

Yes, Assuming that renaming a community without creating a new one isn't possible.

The best way would be to just rename to "steamhardware", but losing everyone in the process is certainly not worth the rename for clarity.

I like the idea of having a single place where Valve's hardware can be discussed, but the current name will make discoverability of such a community difficult. If the name cannot be changed, then I'd rec just leaving this one for only steam decks.

I think a name change would have to match. Steam hardware seems pretty straight forward to me.

I wouldn't be opposed. New community name could be SteamHardware. They share an OS and ecosystem and people interested in one would likely be interested in the others.

I think that there is a somewhat decent chance that there will be an ARM Steam Deck Mini at some point. The Steam Client will probably be released for ARM distributions. I think for the foreseeable future there will be a considerable overlap of topics between thee devices.

I think should there be a flood of posts regarding hardware tinkering of the other devices (people sharing faceplate STLs for Machine or addons for the Frame's expansion port), they could be directed to dedicated communities but for now IMO it's fine to be inclusive.

Feels like the more accurate name moving forward would be "SteamOS Hardware".

Yes, it makes sense to expand the community to be steam devices as a whole.

Community displayed name should probably change to Steam Devices or something like that.

I vote yes, and change the name so it isn't just deck

Yes.

Machine and Deck run on the same OS anyway. they are the same minus the hardware differences.

Yes, altho I wouldve liked the name of this community to then changed to steam hardware (I dont know if thats even possible) but it works like this too...

Yes. If this were a more heavily trafficked sub I'd consider separating out the Frame and GabeCube. But it's not.

I don't think so. Because they are different systems with different goals and different needs. If the community was named "Steam OS", then it would make sense. But this community is not about the operating system, but the device itself.

I'd appreciate one place to discuss the whole steam hardware ecosystem, so yes.

i feel like most steam deck and steam machines discussions will have so much overlap, that it won't matter.

Steam Frame might be more specialised and a dedicated community could be helpful, but i doubt it will produce thaaat much noise and a seperate community might be pretty barren, just because VR is afterall still very niche.

tl;dr: dont see why we should split communities, if something is specific to frame/machine/deck we can specify that in a posts title.

I can't wait for the steam frame. I own a second hand meta quest 2 but never installed the software on PC and I never bought a gape on it since it is facebook. But a Linux VR headset, that amazing !

Is... is it even possible to rename a community?

Valve Ecosystem Nerds?

Or do you just have to make a new one, and tell everyone to migrate?

Anyway, yes, I think that untill or unless it becomes truly problematic in some way, yeah, this basically already is a comm of general Valve/Steam related both hardware and software nerd#, why be too picky?

If a flood or trickle of noobies ever show up, easier for them to ask questions and get news in one place.

But I also do see a potential problem of people having no idea this comm would cover more than just the Deck, not finding it in searches.

... Not sure what to do about that?

EDIT

Aha!

New comm name: Steam Dorks.

Yep.

Nailed it.

Yes I think so, though I think a seperate Linux Handhelds community would be cool to provide an encompassing place for devices like the Steam Deck/other types of linux handhelds.

I think yes since biggest steam deck discord has channels for other steam hardware

No, I think they should have their own communities, and someone should add a steam hardware community, for those interested in all of it, as well as the general trajectory of Steam hardware and ecosystem (if you can call it that).

I’d suggest a separate community for each hardware variant and a Steam OS community acting as a broader hardware indifferent Steam gaming community (which I believe exists already)

this is just a forwardlooking estimation that it will be easier for moderation.

I don't know why you would, except in relation to how they work with the steam deck.

Steam Frame is optionally just a Steam Deck with 'up to' a 4k screen that you don't have to look down at or hold up to your face. It can also be used for VR stuff, but otherwise it's just a better Steam Deck.

It's how I use my Quest 3 already 75% of the time, so it'll be nice to have a headset that had that use case in mind during It's design. And also one where I don't have to give meta money anymore.

Sure! The only thing I'm worried about taking over the community is the Steam Frame. There's a chance it becomes super popular. But if that happens, we can just make a new community for it. No biggie.

Of course. Valve hardware is awesome and we need a place to talk about it.

One more yes from me. All hail Gaben

Maybe make another community so that people who don’t own the other devices can just subscribe to this one and not be bothered by desktop linux gaming and VR ?