curl stands for client URL, and you use it to talk to a server (URL) in whatever protocol you specify. Its used for development as a way to test client & server communication, built into applications to perform communication between a client & a server, and its used often because its extremely portable, has great error logging, can be rate limited, and can provide a substantial amount of detail about the communication.
It's a program to download stuff from the web. It is very flexible. You can tell it to use cookies, post form data, upload and download files. It can do basically everything a web browser does without a graphical user interface.
It is built into many software pieces. And developers love it to test stuff.
For that I would rather recommend a terminal browser like lynx, w3m or links2 in example. curl is more like a single web request to download one piece of raw file (an html page or an image in example). It is not meant to interpret websites and display results. If you want save webpages for offline view, then something like wget.
A swiss army knife is a single tool that contains a number of other smaller tools that you can use in many different circumstances.
Curl is a metaphorical "swiss army knife" for connecting to computers. There are many protocols to connect to different kinds of computers running different kinds of software and curl allows one to easily connect to many of them.
Think of a protocol like a language; if you just blurt out sounds no one will understands, but if you make sounds that correspond to an already agreed upon meaning, it becomes communications.
The same thing is true for sending 1s and 0s; they are meaningless unless the other end understands them and a protocol is "the agreement" both ends use to communicate.
Different federated platforms talking to each other will look like this sometimes. In this case it's a microblogging platform talking to a threaded conversation platform. It's just a quirk of federation in general.
hypertext transfer protocol and hypertext transfer protocol secure. it's the basic network protocol of the modern internet. hypertext can be thought of as being html (hypertext markup language) though other hypertext specifications do exist. hypertext just means documents with links to other documents.
you know how when you copy a url (universal resource location) from your web browser it always has http or https at the start of it? that's because your web browser is connecting to an external server somewhere via the hypertext transfer protocol.
cURL can connext to nearly any server via nearly any standard protocol. it's commonly used for validating connection information and downloading files
It's the protocol most computers use to show websites. In an internet address like https://google.com/, the https:// is the protocol. Different protocols have different features and purposes, but http/https are some of the most common.
🤷 it's kind of just a function of thah activity pub is loosy goosy about how and what to do with it. end of the day it's the threadiverse that's weird and we need to just kind of accept these lumps until lemmy/piefed/mbin devs and mastodon/misskey/whatever devs all get on an issue and decide how best to do this
Curl isn't just a command line tool, it is also a "library" which other computer software uses. Everyone's phone uses curl under the hood. Almost every electronic device that connects to something remote uses curl under the hood.
I still don't understand what you're trying to do.
I thought maybe an XY problem at first but the refusal to do any research on one's own or to reply to my repeated requests to know what they were really trying to do made me block them as posting in bad faith.
@borf@lemmynsfw.com l'm not a troll. I discovered it in Codeberg, and it raised my curiosity. Probably l don't have any use for it at this point of time.
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curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 15 pts · 277d
curl stands for client URL, and you use it to talk to a server (URL) in whatever protocol you specify. Its used for development as a way to test client & server communication, built into applications to perform communication between a client & a server, and its used often because its extremely portable, has great error logging, can be rate limited, and can provide a substantial amount of detail about the communication.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 5 pts · 277d
@curbstickle@anarchist.nexus like Facebook is a server while the app on my mobile is a client ?
elmicha@feddit.org · 6 pts · 277d
Yes, facebook is running on a web server and the app (or a browser) is a client.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 277d
Yes, though really its a lot of servers.
I wouldn't worry about tools yet, I'd recommend getting a book/wiki on networking if you'd like to learn, its knowledge that builds.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 8 pts · 277d
It's a program to download stuff from the web. It is very flexible. You can tell it to use cookies, post form data, upload and download files. It can do basically everything a web browser does without a graphical user interface.
It is built into many software pieces. And developers love it to test stuff.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 2 pts · 277d
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de exactly.... I wish to avoid browsers and GUIs as far as I can.... So this tickled my curiosity........
asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev · 12 pts · 277d
Believe me, you aren't going to get used to nor enjoy "browsing" the web with curl. It's not what you think it is.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 2 pts · 277d
@asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev but I can fetch the web through the terminal emulator ??
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
thingsiplay@beehaw.org · 10 pts · 277d
For that I would rather recommend a terminal browser like
lynx,w3morlinks2in example.curlis more like a single web request to download one piece of raw file (an html page or an image in example). It is not meant to interpret websites and display results. If you want save webpages for offline view, then something likewget.48954246@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 277d
The modern internet isn't designed to be interacted with via a terminal.
So much of the internet today runs on JavaScript and curl won't run that
porn_was_never_the_real_issue@lemmynsfw.com · 6 pts · 277d
It’s an open source project that is like a Swiss Army knife for, primarily http/https, connections.
I use it daily for scripting, monitoring and automation.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@porn_was_never_the_real_issue@lemmynsfw.com l often come across this phrase, Swiss Army knife..... What does it mean actually ??
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 277d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Army_knife
A swiss army knife is a single tool that contains a number of other smaller tools that you can use in many different circumstances.
Curl is a metaphorical "swiss army knife" for connecting to computers. There are many protocols to connect to different kinds of computers running different kinds of software and curl allows one to easily connect to many of them.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@borf@lemmynsfw.com thanks. I really need to understand what protocols actually are.
@porn_was_never_the_real_issue@lemmynsfw.com
CapillaryUpgrade@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 277d
Think of a protocol like a language; if you just blurt out sounds no one will understands, but if you make sounds that correspond to an already agreed upon meaning, it becomes communications.
The same thing is true for sending 1s and 0s; they are meaningless unless the other end understands them and a protocol is "the agreement" both ends use to communicate.
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 277d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_protocol
Read this @TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@borf@lemmynsfw.com thanks 😊 😊 😊
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 277d
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 277d
Why?
A protocol is like a language. It just lets two computers know how to talk to each other. That's it.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@borf@lemmynsfw.com wow.... But l'm on my android phone........
@porn_was_never_the_real_issue@lemmynsfw.com
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 277d
Wikipedia works on phones. I'm on an Android phone. Why do you keep pinging that person? This looks like harassment/trolling.
Edit: are you confused because I said "computers?" Your phone is a computer.
confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 277d
Different federated platforms talking to each other will look like this sometimes. In this case it's a microblogging platform talking to a threaded conversation platform. It's just a quirk of federation in general.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 0 pts · 277d
@porn_was_never_the_real_issue@lemmynsfw.com http/https connections means ?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 277d
hypertext transfer protocol and hypertext transfer protocol secure. it's the basic network protocol of the modern internet. hypertext can be thought of as being html (hypertext markup language) though other hypertext specifications do exist. hypertext just means documents with links to other documents.
you know how when you copy a url (universal resource location) from your web browser it always has
httporhttpsat the start of it? that's because your web browser is connecting to an external server somewhere via the hypertext transfer protocol.cURL can connext to nearly any server via nearly any standard protocol. it's commonly used for validating connection information and downloading files
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 277d
It's the protocol most computers use to show websites. In an internet address like https://google.com/, the https:// is the protocol. Different protocols have different features and purposes, but http/https are some of the most common.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@borf@lemmynsfw.com l need to explore this a lot more. Can you give me some more leads on this ?
@porn_was_never_the_real_issue@lemmynsfw.com
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 277d
First, tell me why you need to know. And please stop pinging that person, it's really rude to ping someone so many times when not responding to them.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 277d
they're not on the threadiverse, they're on mastodon where the threading works differently. their software is doing that automatically
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 277d
Maddening
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 277d
🤷 it's kind of just a function of thah activity pub is loosy goosy about how and what to do with it. end of the day it's the threadiverse that's weird and we need to just kind of accept these lumps until lemmy/piefed/mbin devs and mastodon/misskey/whatever devs all get on an issue and decide how best to do this
0x0@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 277d
OP seems like an LMM
hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 277d
damn, people here are too kind. literally explaining everything op asks when it can literally be searched on wikipedia lmao...
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 277d
Large… Mob Machine
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 277d
Have you even tried to open the very link you posted and read the first line???
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml l did..... And that's what pressed my curiosity button...... That very line you pointed out.........
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 2 pts · 277d
@borf@lemmynsfw.com I'm sorry..... I'm on brainbin, and l'm yet to get familiar with how it works......
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 277d
I still don't understand why you won't explain why you "need" to learn about curl.
You don't need to know anything at all about curl unless you're working on a technical project, and no offense, I don't think you are.
Why do you ""need"" to know about curl?
dajoho@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 277d
dajoho@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 277d
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@dajoho@sh.itjust.works so this is how websites look like from the terminal ?
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 277d
OP, please tell me more about your situation. What made you curious about this?
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@borf@lemmynsfw.com tell me one thing.... Do you use the terminal on your mobile phone ??
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 277d
Not these days.
Curl isn't just a command line tool, it is also a "library" which other computer software uses. Everyone's phone uses curl under the hood. Almost every electronic device that connects to something remote uses curl under the hood.
I still don't understand what you're trying to do.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@borf@lemmynsfw.com l just saw that it runs on cli, and l was wondering if it can be used as a terminal emulator.
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 277d
Curl is not a terminal emulator. Unless you provide a better reason I am now assuming you are a troll.
48954246@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 277d
Not a troll. Just a kid trying to figure out how to browse the web with a terminal.
This is a basic https://xyproblem.info/
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 277d
I thought maybe an XY problem at first but the refusal to do any research on one's own or to reply to my repeated requests to know what they were really trying to do made me block them as posting in bad faith.
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@48954246@lemmy.world well, l am a kid when it comes to computers and technology........
@borf@lemmynsfw.com
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 0 pts · 277d
@48954246@lemmy.world WOW.......
@borf@lemmynsfw.com
TheracAriane@thebrainbin.org · 1 pts · 277d
@borf@lemmynsfw.com l'm not a troll. I discovered it in Codeberg, and it raised my curiosity. Probably l don't have any use for it at this point of time.
dajoho@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 277d