An evil man who's job is to communicate the position of an incoherent babbling hateful child rapist convict who steals from children's charities. A bad faith actor. Who doesn't honour his own deals and is not bound by congress, the courts or the rule of law,
He can go home. There is nothing for him to do in Canada.
Of course he is. That's his job. That's why Trump hired him: to be an irritant. He does his "best" work when his opponents are off-balance, and placing a racist fuckwit as ambassador to your opponents is a solid tactic.
Hoekstra is an absolutely terrible shitstain on humanity, and that's exactly why Trump sent him to Canada.
American here. Could a Canadian explain to me why the Canadian government didn't kick this guy, and the embassy the fuck out of the country the moment piggy trump threatened Canadian sovereignty with his 51st state bullshit?
The role of an ambassador is to create a diplomatic channel to settle disputes reasonably through dialogue. I am very happy Canada did not kick out the ambassador precisely when such a diplomatic vehicle became critical.
But when the US ambassador abdicates his role as a diplomat and takes up the role of a bully or a propagandist, he loses his value.
We should kick him out now. At the very least, he is useless to us.
He is right, trade talks are not going to be easy. But the reason is that the US overestimates its value. It may take a while for the US to realize its error and negotiate in earnest.
The rest of he world is bigger than the US. We are very reliant on US trade today but that can be fixed. We do not have to trade with the US. The US cannot survive without trade. The US has to trade with us (the world). They need us more than we need them. They will figure that out eventually.
The US can absolutely survive without trade. They'll be comparatively poor and not have much "soft" power, but they have more than enough resources in their borders to feed and arm themselves. Inefficiently.
The US economy would crash without trade. That it would eventually recover to some stable but reduced state hardly matters.
Take aluminum and nickel as two examples. The US may theoretically have the resources required. But they do not produce enough and it would be years or even decades before they could. What happens to the auto industry or even their defence capability in the meantime? Other things, like Titanium, may not be available in quantity no matter how much time and money is spent trying.
Aluminum needs massive amounts of electricity. Where is that coming from? The US is a net electricity importer today. How long will it take to build that infrastructure?
How about microchips? How fast can you design all the chips you import? How fast can you build the fabs?
How long does it take to retrofit a refinery designed to process Canadian heavy crude? What is your energy output while those refineries are offline?
Even food is hard to pivot. Are Americans going to eat all those soy beans? And, as I heard someone else say “you cannot grow bananas in the US”.
When you say “comparatively poorer” I think it undersells the impact that full isolation would have by a massive margin.
For any other country, the impact of ceasing trade with the US can be offset by finding other trading partners. I stand by my statements.
It is still important to keep up the appearance that the people want to work with the US, economical war is significantly different than “traditional” war.
Hoektua is a grade-A asshole and a huge liability, and that actually benefits us. People can see very publicly that we're looking for trade opportunities elsewhere. They're coming to us.
He does though. He has speaking engagements all over the (our!) country and his crap gets regularly printed in the news (as per original post). That needs to stop asap. I don’t think expelling him is a good move but we can just flat out cut him out of Canadian press and events. That is a much better approach.
26 Comments
swordgeek@lemmy.ca · 40 pts · 284d
Once again, this stupid fucker can fuck right the fucking fuck off. And fucking stay there.
Let's be very clear here: Hoekstra is...
And a Nazi piece of shit all around.
May he get the consequences he deserves.
alsimoneau@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 284d
Every accusation is a confession
masterofn001@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 284d
Lolololol.
Eat a bone saw, you fascist piece of shit.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 284d
An evil man who's job is to communicate the position of an incoherent babbling hateful child rapist convict who steals from children's charities. A bad faith actor. Who doesn't honour his own deals and is not bound by congress, the courts or the rule of law,
He can go home. There is nothing for him to do in Canada.
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 284d
He can go choke on a Timbit.
engene@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 284d
Can we kick this guy out of the country!? I’m sick of hearing him speak! Can someone rip that Canada/USA pin from his lapel too! 😡
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 283d
He was removed from the previous country he was in representing the US, was he not?
engene@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 283d
I can't confirm but I did hear the same. So, of course they put him in Canada - a friendly posting 🙄
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 282d
The Netherlands. His Wikipedia page
Trex202@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 284d
He's gotta be rage baiting
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 284d
Nope he believes this, I am sure he is trying to get kicked out of Canada like he did his previous post.
swordgeek@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 284d
Of course he is. That's his job. That's why Trump hired him: to be an irritant. He does his "best" work when his opponents are off-balance, and placing a racist fuckwit as ambassador to your opponents is a solid tactic.
Hoekstra is an absolutely terrible shitstain on humanity, and that's exactly why Trump sent him to Canada.
BC_viper@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 284d
Yah its going to take a lot for us to come back. He can gizzle my cum. But by mail because he's not touching me.
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 284d
American here. Could a Canadian explain to me why the Canadian government didn't kick this guy, and the embassy the fuck out of the country the moment piggy trump threatened Canadian sovereignty with his 51st state bullshit?
LeFantome@programming.dev · 6 pts · 283d
The role of an ambassador is to create a diplomatic channel to settle disputes reasonably through dialogue. I am very happy Canada did not kick out the ambassador precisely when such a diplomatic vehicle became critical.
But when the US ambassador abdicates his role as a diplomat and takes up the role of a bully or a propagandist, he loses his value.
We should kick him out now. At the very least, he is useless to us.
He is right, trade talks are not going to be easy. But the reason is that the US overestimates its value. It may take a while for the US to realize its error and negotiate in earnest.
The rest of he world is bigger than the US. We are very reliant on US trade today but that can be fixed. We do not have to trade with the US. The US cannot survive without trade. The US has to trade with us (the world). They need us more than we need them. They will figure that out eventually.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 283d
The US can absolutely survive without trade. They'll be comparatively poor and not have much "soft" power, but they have more than enough resources in their borders to feed and arm themselves. Inefficiently.
LeFantome@programming.dev · 1 pts · 281d
The US economy would crash without trade. That it would eventually recover to some stable but reduced state hardly matters.
Take aluminum and nickel as two examples. The US may theoretically have the resources required. But they do not produce enough and it would be years or even decades before they could. What happens to the auto industry or even their defence capability in the meantime? Other things, like Titanium, may not be available in quantity no matter how much time and money is spent trying.
Aluminum needs massive amounts of electricity. Where is that coming from? The US is a net electricity importer today. How long will it take to build that infrastructure?
How about microchips? How fast can you design all the chips you import? How fast can you build the fabs?
How long does it take to retrofit a refinery designed to process Canadian heavy crude? What is your energy output while those refineries are offline?
Even food is hard to pivot. Are Americans going to eat all those soy beans? And, as I heard someone else say “you cannot grow bananas in the US”.
When you say “comparatively poorer” I think it undersells the impact that full isolation would have by a massive margin.
For any other country, the impact of ceasing trade with the US can be offset by finding other trading partners. I stand by my statements.
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 283d
It is still important to keep up the appearance that the people want to work with the US, economical war is significantly different than “traditional” war.
mPony@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
Hoektua is a grade-A asshole and a huge liability, and that actually benefits us. People can see very publicly that we're looking for trade opportunities elsewhere. They're coming to us.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 284d
Expel the fash
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 284d
I don't think that "hextra" guy knows what an ambassador is.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 282d
Jhex@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
Who care what this clown has to say.. get the fuck out of my country
bowreality@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 284d
I don’t know why we still give him a stage to speak and talk about him. Best to ignore. That’s going to irk him most.
LeFantome@programming.dev · 2 pts · 283d
I agree. But he is not getting much of a stage. I hear his voice but it has the same impact on me as hearing a toilet flush.
bowreality@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 283d
He does though. He has speaking engagements all over the (our!) country and his crap gets regularly printed in the news (as per original post). That needs to stop asap. I don’t think expelling him is a good move but we can just flat out cut him out of Canadian press and events. That is a much better approach.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 281d
Usually (and increasingly) with right wing or right leaning organizations.