Dumb? The sea seagulls maybe, but the ones moving inland are definitely not. Here in The Netherlands there's an evolutionary difference in growth and cognitive behavior noticeable, as the inland seagulls are able to get much more food. The food is also more diverse and contains more fats. Because the food they eat is our trash, they are also exposed to many fungi and bacteria improving their immune system. To be able to get to our trash they need to open containers and reach into difficult places, improving their cognitive skills. There is a big difference noticeable with seagulls who stay at sea, as they rely on just fish which is harder to get as thanks to us the fish population is greatly reduced. Sea seagulls are often under fed and get ill more often and die due to poisoning (like lead from ships which ends up in the fish they eat). They are doing bad these days, which is what forced groups to find food elsewhere, like in the cities.
And now they are plotting to take control over humans after ages of control by cats. I've seen them and my cats hoarding machine guns, grenades and rocket launchers.
A seagull alone may be dumb and have very little memory of the past, but I am sure that A Flock of Seagulls can remember all the way back to the 1980s.
We have generic tests for the intelligence of birds.
Most famously used on Crows/Parrots, Seagulls are smarter than average and can solve some advanced puzzles, but they're mostly below Corvids or Parrots. We've also tested their memory, they only care about food and can remember places they've gotten food and even the faces of people who they've got food from year to year, but we don't think over too much longer periods.
They're loud, only care about food, they can remember places they've gotten food and are obsessed with those places. Seagulls basically as intelligent as New Yorkers.
Herring gulls are smart, they know if you are looking at them (and usually avoid stealing your food when you do) ^^
Herring gulls respond to human gaze direction | Biology Letters https://share.google/Sdg1k9aoyRVzoiiSi
And have in fact stolen my broodje haring straight out of my fucking hands as I raised it to my mouth to take the first bite. Fucker hit me from behind and curved in at the last second. Zandvoort Summer 2010. Never forget, never forgive!
We have seagulls in my inland city, they breed on an island in our lake. I think the name for our seagulls are silver gulls, famous from the film finding Nemo
so how did that dumb fuck steel your hot dog???? Damn right we remember the 90s, and it's still hammer time. Can't touch yo hot dog. sideways shuffle time
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edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 282d
fartographer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 282d
You're a psycho wiener
nsfw936421@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 282d
Let me grab my beater
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 282d
That log had a child!
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 46 pts · 282d
Dumb? The sea seagulls maybe, but the ones moving inland are definitely not. Here in The Netherlands there's an evolutionary difference in growth and cognitive behavior noticeable, as the inland seagulls are able to get much more food. The food is also more diverse and contains more fats. Because the food they eat is our trash, they are also exposed to many fungi and bacteria improving their immune system. To be able to get to our trash they need to open containers and reach into difficult places, improving their cognitive skills. There is a big difference noticeable with seagulls who stay at sea, as they rely on just fish which is harder to get as thanks to us the fish population is greatly reduced. Sea seagulls are often under fed and get ill more often and die due to poisoning (like lead from ships which ends up in the fish they eat). They are doing bad these days, which is what forced groups to find food elsewhere, like in the cities.
And now they are plotting to take control over humans after ages of control by cats. I've seen them and my cats hoarding machine guns, grenades and rocket launchers.
I tried to find the article I read a while ago (was in Dutch) but can't seem to find it. Here's a similar article though: https://phys.org/news/2016-07-biologist-evolutionary-brought-seagulls-ocean.pdf
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 282d
Dutch seagull in action.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 282d
Hahaha holy shit
RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 282d
The entire population of Greater Haarlem would like a word about this.
logicbomb@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 282d
A seagull alone may be dumb and have very little memory of the past, but I am sure that A Flock of Seagulls can remember all the way back to the 1980s.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 282d
We have generic tests for the intelligence of birds.
Most famously used on Crows/Parrots, Seagulls are smarter than average and can solve some advanced puzzles, but they're mostly below Corvids or Parrots. We've also tested their memory, they only care about food and can remember places they've gotten food and even the faces of people who they've got food from year to year, but we don't think over too much longer periods.
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 282d
Are… are you a seagull?
Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 282d
Apparently I am
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 282d
They're loud, only care about food, they can remember places they've gotten food and are obsessed with those places. Seagulls basically as intelligent as New Yorkers.
Grimy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 282d
I barely remember last week.
halvar@lemy.lol · 14 pts · 282d
maybe you're a seagull, you should check that with your gp
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 282d
Crows remember the 90s.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 282d
Count them.
snooggums@piefed.world · 2 pts · 282d
FIRE IT UP! FIRE IT UP!
deacon@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 282d
I know a lot of dumb people that think they remember the 90s, and that statement doesn’t exclude myself.
Kamsaa@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 282d
Herring gulls are smart, they know if you are looking at them (and usually avoid stealing your food when you do) ^^ Herring gulls respond to human gaze direction | Biology Letters https://share.google/Sdg1k9aoyRVzoiiSi
LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 282d
De-googled link:
doi.org/10.1098/rsbl.2019.0405
Which leads to royalsocietypublishing.org
Kamsaa@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 282d
Thanks! I should've done that directly, apologies.
RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 282d
And have in fact stolen my broodje haring straight out of my fucking hands as I raised it to my mouth to take the first bite. Fucker hit me from behind and curved in at the last second. Zandvoort Summer 2010. Never forget, never forgive!
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 282d
If a seagull lives to it's thirties I imagine it's flying around with nothing but Smashmouth banging around it's brain all day.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 282d
Hey now.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 282d
or the song lo gabian (the seagull)
stray@pawb.social · 11 pts · 282d
I can't relate to being disturbed by the idea that other creatures remember their own lives.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 282d
There's a whole Flock of Seagulls that's been around since the 80s!
bstix@feddit.dk · 5 pts · 282d
Are they still around? I heard they ran away. They ran so far away.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 6 pts · 282d
These guys are brilliant. Just look at them
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 282d
I mean, if being able to steal and swindle frequently and successfully is a mark of high intelligence, trump might be a stable genius.
fossilesque@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 282d
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 282d
Well, there aren't any actual "seagulls". There are different types of gulls. And some seem more intelligent than others.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 282d
How can seagulls be real if our eyes are not real?
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 282d
Well, birds aren't real... So, it negates the whole seagull debate anyway.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 282d
Are you telling me if I live by the sea, these gulls I see are not seagulls?
L7HM77@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 282d
Sometimes they live in bays, then they're called bagels.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 282d
Yum! I can haz strawberry cream cheese bay gulls?
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 282d
Technically, correct. They are different types of gulls.
Most popular type is the: Herring Gull.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 280d
We have seagulls in my inland city, they breed on an island in our lake. I think the name for our seagulls are silver gulls, famous from the film finding Nemo
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 282d
so how did that dumb fuck steel your hot dog???? Damn right we remember the 90s, and it's still hammer time. Can't touch yo hot dog. sideways shuffle time
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 282d
Stupidity is this what us made different from animals
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 282d
Can you try that again, without having a stroke?