The military service, which falls under the Department of Homeland Security, has drafted a new policy that classifies such items “potentially divisive.”
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The military service, which falls under the Department of Homeland Security, has drafted a new policy that classifies such items “potentially divisive.”
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ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 48 pts · 294d
so the most hateful symbol ever made, the swastika, is now just potentially divisive… sweet….
i will say that the noose has a lot of meaning other than referring to lynchings… pretty popular in suicide and any other type of execution….
it’s certainly used as a hate symbol but it’s not always that.
e.g. Hangtown, California (although they did remove the noose from their city logo)
….
maybe they changed it because the swastika has much older cultural and religious meaning elsewhere?
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 294d
No, the swastika only has one meaning. It was changed from the original symbol, and so that original symbol is still safe. The swastika is the swastika, and it means nothing but hate and is worn by no one but cunts.
Edit: Lot of swastika apologists on this site...
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 294d
The Nazi swastika is, not the others.
itsgoodtobeawake@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 294d
This isn't really accurate. I agree with your sentiment on some level... But the swastika has existed for thousands of years in many different forms in many different cultures. It was co opted for sure, but not really changed. I agree that it is predominantly used as a hate symbol in modern culture, but it's not quite as simple as you are putting it here, imho. Ancient Buddhist or Hindu temples shouldn't be torn down because of a madman that stole a symbol nonsensically that had nothing to do with Aryan superiority. Might be nice if someday it could be rehabbed but certainly today, in America especially it is generally used as only meaning one thing. Not trying to be pedantic, it's just not quite as cut and dry as you're representing.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 294d
I think you are advocating for the wrong devil here, friend.
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 294d
In the Indian context, the reverse swastika (counter-clockwise, or sauvastika) symbolizes night, the goddess Kali, and tantric practices, while the right-facing swastika represents day, the sun (Surya), and auspiciousness. Both symbols are ancient and sacred in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, but the left-facing sauvastika is specifically associated with the night and Kali in Hindu tradition.
itsgoodtobeawake@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
The devil is in the details?
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 294d
Not disagreeing with current meaning behind the swastika, but it was appropriated from Sanskrit; it was not created to be hateful.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 294d
It wasn't appropriated from Sanskrit, the design was a popular across the Indo-European cultures for millenia but happened to survive into modernity in Sanskrit. The Nazis ripped it from artifacts being found mainly in Germanic and Celtic archeology sites, they also ripped a bunch of other symbols but most of those were dropped by the start of the war, they also made the black sun symbol (I just woke up from a nap and can't rember the name) based off the solar symbols of ancient Neolithic to Bronze age Old European cultures.
4am@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 294d
It’s still used today in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.
It’s not the reversed, 45-degree angle one the Nazis used to set theirs apart.
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 294d
The tilted and reversed doesn't matter, the original one is allowed to be reversed and tilted as well, it's juat usually not tilted.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 294d
i hope someday that will be the first thing people think of when they see it, again
ch00f@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 294d
Now do Lynchburg, VA.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 294d
ok: Lynchburg was founded in 1757 by John Lynch
ch00f@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
huh. Grew up in VB. TIL.
jaaake@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching#Etymology
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 294d
read your own link… it wasn’t about murdering black people, originally….
i’m not not saying it’s just cool to have a hangman’s noose t-shirt in america, given the rest of history. But america kinda had a thing with hanging all sorts of people.
jaaake@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 294d
I did.
The verb "to lynch"(like the city of Lynchburg) comes from the same family. Literally. Charles Lynch is older brother to John Lynch (abolitionist and founder of Lynchburg).
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 294d
and they were lynching loyalists during the american revolution… what’s your point?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 294d
Any relation to David?
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 294d
i’m assuming he was a direct descendant… just because i want to
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 293d
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 294d
In other news, ICE has now adopted the swastika and noose as their official departmental symbols
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 294d
Swastanoose it's a swastika with 4 nooses at each point.
crazycraw@crazypeople.online · 3 pts · 294d
so can we make an ironic version to hang four of these traitors at a time or violence doesn't solve violence etc.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 293d
They call that a circle merc.
ProfThadBach@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 294d
What the fuck???????
silence7@slrpnk.net · 32 pts · 294d
About 40% of Republican staffers have gone full Nazi at this point, and the rest (and their bosses) are ok with this. Just making sure their buddies can get military training is all
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 293d
And guy in
CIAFBI gets fired by kash patel for hanging rainbow flag. America is cookedEdit: wrong glowies
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 293d
Link?
BanMe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 293d
It was FBI and when it happened this summer, it was a gut punch to the queer community. I'm really glad he's standing up in court over it.
Jordan117@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 294d
Gotta focus on the truly hateful symbols, like rainbows, "everyone is welcome" signs, and abstract nouns.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 294d
250,000 US Coast Guard Troops were deployed during WW2. A quarter of a million people. This is a hell of a disservice to their memory.
https://www.history.uscg.mil/Browse-by-Topic/Conflicts/World-War-II/
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · -39 pts · 294d
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 294d
.ml user. Downvote, block, and move on. Don't take the bait.
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · -25 pts · 294d
Who cares what instance I signed up on lol. Do you have anything substantial to say?
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 294d
In case you didn't know, the .ml instance has a very earned reputation for hosting tankies.
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · -9 pts · 294d
Yes, I learned about that quite a while after I had signed up. So what? It's like refusing to talk to someone simply because they're from Florida - sure, most Floridians are racist lunatics, doesn't mean they don't deserve the benefit of doubt.
MisterOwl@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
That's just it though. They don't.
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 293d
Well, just like you don't for having a dumbass username - blocked
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 294d
I'd buy that if your original comment didn't sound very much like something a tankie would say.
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 293d
What's wrong about it? You're aware that there were huge pro nazi rallies in the US?
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 293d
Anyone still in Florida with the means of moving out of Florida will not get my benefit of the doubt.
Your case is far simpler as it is a 30 seconds sign up, and not a life changing decision.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 21 pts · 294d
Here's a picture which should not be divIsive at all.
For some more about of Nazis in nooses, visit the Nuremberg executions
Insekticus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 293d
You mean soom-to-be MAGAts?
nukeforyou@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 294d
So.. we can draw trump in a noose and it's cool?
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 293d
Just show up at 1600 PA Ave with diy gallows. Nbd.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 293d
We are a diy guillotine family young man, now start acting like it
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
I wouldn't try it, I'm not in the mood to be epsteined
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 293d
I think you're too old
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
I mean, I'm no spring chicken, but I wouldn't say old.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 294d
Let me guess, Hegseth?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 294d
Since it's under Homeland Security, it would be the dog murderer Gestapo Barbie or one of her underlings.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 294d
GODDAMIT
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 294d
I am starting to think we need to overthrow this regime
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
For context as to what this means. When you go through your physical to enter this would be considered an acceptable tattoo and would not prevent you from joining the armed forces
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 293d
Even more sensationalism to get everyone to forget about the Epstein files.
Dingleberrydipndots@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
Why would they do some dumb shit like this, besides to further an agenda, with likely nefarious intention