from daily mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15310923/US-troops-Mexican-beach-invasion-fentanyl.html
'International incident': 'Terrifying standoff' as US troops mistakenly invade Mexico
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-troops-invade-mexico/
59 Comments
aarch0x40@piefed.social · 209 pts · 271d
This was no mistake. It was a test.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 81 pts · 271d
That's the result they wanted.
It's Mexico, clear as day, but Mexico just waffled on it and said they "believed" it was Mexico.
They'll take a page out of Israel's playbook and start saying "until we figure this out, it's a buffer zone". Then just keep expanding it and not obstructing Americans from "settling" there, once they're established, then it's obviously America because why else would Americans be living there?
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 271d
You might be reading too much into that. The article stated Mexico's naval personnel removed them as the personnel acted on the information they had. I would highly doubt they were going to go to great lengths to confirm the exact coordinates of the boarder.
Do I think that's what the Americans were trying to do? Yes. But Mexico didn't waffle it.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 8 pts · 271d
A boarder is someone who lives in your house. A border is what separates countries.
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 271d
Or maybe they boarded Mexico like a ship, or boarded it with signs, making the Americans the boarders
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 270d
All aboard the boarding ship! So exciting! You won't be bored
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 271d
What??
This wasn't a random place, it's a fucking beach with people who go there routinely...
What "great lengths" did you think it would take to determine which side of Trump's ridiculous fence this was on?
You think people that live and work right next to the border, are unsure about where the border is?
You think it's something you can accidentally wander across?
Mexico knew that beach was theirs, but when pushed they said it might be instead of saber rattling that America just tried to seize a fucking landinghead
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 271d
You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Mexico waffled nothing. They removed the signs. The statement of believe or not isnt consequential.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 271d
You think a hostile nation's military headed by a demented narcissist showing up on another country's sovereign soil and placing signs that it belongs to a different country...
Is a molehill?
Buddy, if you don't understand why something is serious, I'd highly advise you to ask questions instead of loudly proclaim it's not a big deal
Uruanna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 270d
The molehill is your focus on the word believe
The serious part is the US just waltzing into a foreign country planting signs and Mexico removing them
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 270d
If I walked up and took a sandwich out of you hand and ate, would you say:
And expect me to give it back? Or anyone to help you?
Or do you think:
Would be more effective?
You're acting like this is one isolated incident with zero consequences...
And I readily admit, I over estimate people's critical thinking abilities, but it seems very clear with how Israel and Russia treat borders, and how chummy with them trump is, that this could very likely be the start of the same behavior.
But like I said, I often think shit is ridiculously obvious just to find out other people just can't connect the dots.
I'll never understand why people get so belligerent instead of just asking questions till they understand.
Can you at least tell me why you didn't want to ask questions when you ran into something you didn't understand?
It's a widespread issue, and I legitimately want some insight into your choices here.
village604@adultswim.fan · 1 pts · 270d
The border is really big, and not all of it is fenced. It's definitely possible to accidentally cross it.
Not saying that's what happened here, though.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 271d
Like how Russia tested Ukraine?
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 271d
Like how Russia is testing the rest of the EU right now.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 270d
Everyone except Turkey who just blew their jets right out of the goddamn sky and said “crossing our airspace without permission is a no.” No accidental incursions there anymore
aarch0x40@piefed.social · 4 pts · 271d
👃
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 116 pts · 271d
How the foxtrot do you accidentally invade Mexico? What they mean is they committed another act of abuse and then said they didn't mean it
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 271d
Militaries accidentally invade each other all the time.
Usually, they back right out and let the other country know, they don't use boats to get around visible border controls and plant a sign in other country though.
Linktank@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 271d
Narcissist prayer all day, every day.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 271d
I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!
BanMe@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 270d
The article claims that changes in water lines resulted in altered perceptions of the border line. As if international borders are hallucinogenic in some way? IDK
TheMinister@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 270d
Sorry to tell you, but international borders absolutely are hallucinations. Grant you, not hallucinogenic, but they’re absolutely flights of fancy.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 270d
It's well known that changes in water lines make GPS completely inoperable. This could happen to any wealthy and powerful nation's military.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 271d
Consider we're just not that bright?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 270d
"¡Solo fue una broma, hermano!"
frongt@lemmy.zip · 105 pts · 271d
That's about 20 miles south of the border. And the only reason to approach by boat would be because you couldn't do it from land, because you'd be stopped.
RandAlThor@lemmy.ca · 87 pts · 271d
In this day and age of GPS, there's no excuse for them to be in another FREAKIN COUNTRY. Just complete morons.
yakko@feddit.uk · 36 pts · 271d
They are morons for following illegal orders. Modern GPS can practically tell when you leaned over to fart, we cannot assume this was accidental.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 270d
A fucking garmin watch could tell you when you’re across the border, Daggers have access to an entire other satellite network for even more precise location that civilians cannot use so they have less than zero excuse for positioning.
modernangel@sh.itjust.works · 67 pts · 271d
"mistakenly" wink wink
Not an honest mistake, not under this regime
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 30 pts · 271d
Oh, turns out that wall isn’t very effective after all huh?
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 270d
Mexico should have arrested all those illegal aliens and then deported them to North Korea.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 271d
How the fuck did they not get arrested?
Pistcow@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 271d
Shoot them in the fucking face next time
pennomi@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 271d
Uruanna@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 270d
That's right, when a foreign army invades your country, don't escalate, just give them control of your government and your institutions.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 270d
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 270d
ITT: People who don't live in North America wants to see a bunch of US-Americans and Mexicans die for their amusement
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 270d
I live in north America and would find it kinda neat.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 271d
Probably by having lots of guns and Mexico not wanting to start the Second Mexican-American war.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 271d
Trump's deal with the devil for immunity from all consequences
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 270d
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 271d
Bah. I accidentally invaded America during Basic training. The other side of that long swathe of clearing was cooler, so we walked there.
Wow, did we get in trouble when we all found out we actually invaded.
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 31 pts · 271d
Did you hammer signs into the ground claiming that territory for your country? Had your country recently made military threats against American sovereignty, and had your country's military recently killed 76 citizens of a country near America in extrajudicial slayings while claiming that they were doing the same things you're threatening America over?
It's hardly a similar situation to that right now. Tensions are high, America is a serious threat.
CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 271d
Mexico and Venezuela are approximately one Mexico away from each other. They aren't really that near to one another. The rest of your point stands but the Americas are really fucking big.
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 3 pts · 271d
The similarity lies in what accusations the Americans are slinging, not their physical proximity.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 271d
I'd suggest that wandering over a border by accident and then back again wouldn't really be considered an invasion....
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 271d
Any better sources for this?
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 270d
Military incompetence, or international threat, either way you know the decision is being made at the top.
ArtVandelay@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 270d
Will Trump is both incompetent and an international threat so that checks out
Technoworcester@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 270d
Non dailyhatemail version
https://web.archive.org/web/20251121165802/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15310923/US-troops-Mexican-beach-invasion-fentanyl.html
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 270d
Actually a mistake, or doing exactly what russia fucking does and testing boundaries and responses, and then going oops! ??
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 270d
Just do what Poland or Turkey would do if Russia "accidently" flies a plane into their airspace
Alenalda@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 271d
Remember the Alamo?
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org · 4 pts · 271d
Have at them cartels. I ain't seen shit.
monis@ttrpg.network · 10 pts · 271d
Yikes.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 271d
tangeli@piefed.social · 4 pts · 271d
Canada's next. Or maybe Greenland.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 271d
Or France
Kornblumenratte@feddit.org · 1 pts · 271d
Like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon
Or
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 270d
I hope France offers to help us with another revolution instead, we’re overdue
monis@ttrpg.network · 2 pts · 271d
Standoff with the cartels?
falseWhite@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 271d