I love the implication that a chick wailing in a microphone would be so unusual that Chuck, after 20 years of jamming blues music with the most degenerate counter culture folks, would be shocked by it.
yoko ono's a very misunderstood artist - i really like her art, as well as 'mind train' and 'hirake' from her fly album, and i also like her warbling, as heard in 'fly'. seriously!
Man the number of people who shit on Yoko while adoring Laurie Anderson really do not understand performance art. It's not necessarily meant to be "normally" musical. That's not the intention.
But whatever; people have their own tastes and that's 100% cool. I don't actually enjoy a lot of her stuff either, even if I can appreciate what she was trying to do.
Moreover, if you are fan of John's consider this: when he met Yoko he was a full on misogynist big time with blatantly capitalist aspirations. She turned that all around, stuck with him through his "lost weekend" and two rounds of herion addiction. Yes, this is not about her as an artist, but if we consider her as a person she was/is important.
I'm an installation artist. Most recently I've built large pens and fenced in some fields to fill with livestock. I then raise and sell said livestock. It's a take on how capitalism reduces all of us to the sum of our parts. No one really connects with the message of it though so I have to get by on what I can get for the meat.
Cool! I do that too! The exact same thing! Never learned how, just decided that I’m an installation artist and I’m going to tell everyone that this is what I do and they’ll all defend me against anyone that tries to say otherwise because its art!
No, that can't be! First you have to go to installation artist school and get approval from the other learned installation artists and then they will give you an installation artist license and with that you can finally call yourself an installation artist and call other people installation art posers.
Interesting that people on social media with a clichéd taste in music feel the need to punch down on creative artists who nevertheless end up influencing mainstream music decades later.
You don't get it because you probably are not an artist yourself. Maybe humble yourself and accept it from the artists rather than be "sad". Am sure there is plenty which you know about more than they do.
I don't get Miles Davis' Bitch's Brew or Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask but am not going to disparage them. Musicians more advanced than me say it is awesome so I merely respect that. I don't have to listen to the albums every afternoon until I get it
I’m an artist. Been one for forty years, both studio/session and stage- And Yoko is a hot mess. It’s not art just because it’s a performance. And it’s not good just because you hang a “misunderstood” sign on it.
It’s “art” for snobs that want to appear cultured and elite. It’s skill-less performance for an audience that can know better.
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ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 258d
Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com · 13 pts · 258d
I love the implication that a chick wailing in a microphone would be so unusual that Chuck, after 20 years of jamming blues music with the most degenerate counter culture folks, would be shocked by it.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 258d
Boomer Tier
AngularViscosity@piefed.social · 15 pts · 258d
Justified
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
Underrated show
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 258d
It’s like memes go back in time. I first heard this as a Nickelback joke.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 258d
Really scraping the bottom of barrel with this one eh?
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 258d
yoko ono's a very misunderstood artist - i really like her art, as well as 'mind train' and 'hirake' from her fly album, and i also like her warbling, as heard in 'fly'. seriously!
RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 258d
Man the number of people who shit on Yoko while adoring Laurie Anderson really do not understand performance art. It's not necessarily meant to be "normally" musical. That's not the intention.
But whatever; people have their own tastes and that's 100% cool. I don't actually enjoy a lot of her stuff either, even if I can appreciate what she was trying to do.
Moreover, if you are fan of John's consider this: when he met Yoko he was a full on misogynist big time with blatantly capitalist aspirations. She turned that all around, stuck with him through his "lost weekend" and two rounds of herion addiction. Yes, this is not about her as an artist, but if we consider her as a person she was/is important.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 257d
Sometimes, even performance art can suck. It doesn’t all have to be “appreciated” or “misunderstood”. It can just be what it is- hot garbage.
Not everyone is an artist just because they want to be.
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 257d
Hard disagree. Anyone is an artist if they want to be. Whether anyone likes the work is a separate issue.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
So, curious… what do you do for a living?
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
I'm an installation artist. Most recently I've built large pens and fenced in some fields to fill with livestock. I then raise and sell said livestock. It's a take on how capitalism reduces all of us to the sum of our parts. No one really connects with the message of it though so I have to get by on what I can get for the meat.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
Cool! I do that too! The exact same thing! Never learned how, just decided that I’m an installation artist and I’m going to tell everyone that this is what I do and they’ll all defend me against anyone that tries to say otherwise because its art!
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 257d
No, that can't be! First you have to go to installation artist school and get approval from the other learned installation artists and then they will give you an installation artist license and with that you can finally call yourself an installation artist and call other people installation art posers.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 257d
Nope. No school required, no skill required, I’m an installation artist just like you!
hehehe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
This has clearly never heard/seen her sing.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 19 pts · 258d
Is yoko ono still alive even?
X@piefed.world · 14 pts · 258d
Her wiki says she is. Born 1933.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 258d
Silent generation my eye.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · -5 pts · 258d
There is no god.
X@piefed.world · 4 pts · 258d
🎯
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 258d
Fun fact: Interlude in B-52's Rock Lobster was inspired by Yoko Ono.
https://youtu.be/qxvb-aSEYQY
Which in turn inspired Lennon to resume recording with Yoko.
https://youtu.be/TADWl5_1GGU&t=1m52s
Interesting that people on social media with a clichéd taste in music feel the need to punch down on creative artists who nevertheless end up influencing mainstream music decades later.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 258d
TIL: B-52s because of the hairdos that looked like airplane nose cones. Fred Schneider said it.
They were so hot in 1979. Even the studio album. Can't imagine having seem them live.
Unfortunately I just cannot listen to or watch Yoko Ono, and her reminiscing with Kate Pierson in what I assume are the 90s is just sad.
edit: I'm not "disparaging" Ono. Sheesh. And the interview makes me sad for Kate Pierson just as much.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · -11 pts · 258d
You don't get it because you probably are not an artist yourself. Maybe humble yourself and accept it from the artists rather than be "sad". Am sure there is plenty which you know about more than they do.
I don't get Miles Davis' Bitch's Brew or Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask but am not going to disparage them. Musicians more advanced than me say it is awesome so I merely respect that. I don't have to listen to the albums every afternoon until I get it
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 257d
I’m an artist. Been one for forty years, both studio/session and stage- And Yoko is a hot mess. It’s not art just because it’s a performance. And it’s not good just because you hang a “misunderstood” sign on it.
It’s “art” for snobs that want to appear cultured and elite. It’s skill-less performance for an audience that can know better.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 257d
And yet
younorny seem to like B-52's who were inspired by Yoko.They were not hacks.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
Tf is a “norny”?
And for the record, Led Zeppelin was inspired by American blues and I absolutely love them!
I fucking HATE blues music of ANY nationality. Should I hate Led Zeppelin??
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 257d
Norny is the person you were defending. Can't be bothered typing their full username.
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 257d
I’m not defending anyone. Maybe stop looking at nuanced discussion as a competition sport?
ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 258d
I can imagine this as a Norm MacDonald line.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
Must be before the OJ Simpson era.
Godric@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
Well yeah, "do not click" wasn't exactly common vernacular during the OJ era...
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 258d
Here you go, ‘Walking on Thin Ice’, the last song recorded by John Lennon. With Tony Levin on the bass.
Zier@fedia.io · 5 pts · 258d
Ono, another new virus.
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 258d
A great video about Yoko.
bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 257d
Thanks. Very informative.
TomMasz@piefed.social · 2 pts · 257d
Doing God's work.
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
The wrong person died that night in 1980. The world would be better off without Oko.
Zapados@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 258d
I listened to Yoko once, now I’m death.
BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
Don't blame it on Yokie!