I was in Hollywood, looking to add to my tech bro portfolio. I'd been dodging peter thiels satanic priests all afternoon. I stumbled through a tent city, I was feeling drowsy due to fentanyl contact high. After I had kungfoo-ed a gang of immigrant criminals, I saw the studios.
I wandered over, bloody and bruised but victorious. I was in an instant surrounded by stars and starlets, the who's who. Glitz and glamour. A fat man in a suit waddled up to me, it's almost as if he could smell my crypto. He said all this could be mine for 3.50. I spun and threw my arms to the heavens in victorious ecstasy. As I looked back, I realized it was the godamn lock ness monster.
Plex sucks. Couple of days ago they started to ask for $2 per month to access my files from my tv. I switched to jellyfin and everything works great. Sorry for the rant.
IIRC it's a charge to use their relay servers, which you only need if you don't have a direct connection to your media server. Setting up a direct connection isn't always easy or possible especially for non-technical users, and does come at some small expense to Plex, so it's not that weird to be a paid feature. But if Jellyfin meets your needs that's a good thing, it's probably got a better shot at avoiding enshittification long term.
edit: I was not remembering correctly, even direct (remote) connections are paywalled. You'd need to use some kind of tunnel to make Plex think you're connecting locally.
I think you're wrong. I have my ports open and I can connect directly to my Plex instance, but if I'm connecting from another IP address Plex wants my money.
Yep, I just double checked and I think it's all remote connections, not just relayed ones. You can probably get around this by setting up a wireguard tunnel or something to make Plex think you're connecting locally, but it's definitely going to be easier to just use Jellyfin if you haven't already set that up
that implies you may have a misconfiguration? I am pretty sure local access is still free, no? its possible your TV is connecting through remote due to either rebind issue OR some other local subnet setup you have.
My PC and my TV are in the same local network and plex was not trying to change me until the last week. I don't even have any subnets. Also I don't want to troubleshoot this issue, Jellyfin just works for me and I like using the open source projects.
Once you've confirmed what method, can you access it on the laptop you're running it on by going to https://127.0.0.1:8096/ ?
Once you confirm local access, we can take a look at your firewall rules to ensure port 8096 on that laptop is reachable by other devices on your network.
I mean it’s 2 fuckin dollars a month. If you’ve got a setup that can utilize plex you’re probably running at least $800 worth of hardware that costs more than $2 in electricity per month.
Warner fires back with a counter offer where Plex has to purchase a WarnerPass. A subscription service where the available features and pricing are subject to change at any time.
Related pro-tip: if you use Plex and you also think it's enshittifying, switch to Jellyfin. You can run it side by side with Plex and point it at the same library folders.
Beware that Jellyfin is not good with duplicates, if you have a lot of those. You have to rename your files for duplicates to be recognized. Not great if your files come from the... sea.
You can also use Filebot to ingest files that have Caribbean sailor names and put the into a Jellyfin-compatible directory structure, renamed correctly.
I know about hard links but it's still doing more work than Plex in this regard. Some work vs no work. 🤷♂️ I'm not opposed to work but I'm just saying, Jellyfin is inferior in this single regard.
It's wild to me that people still use Plex. It used to be free with no registration required, I left when they started wanting a user on their system since I knew that would end up turning into requiring a subscription.
I never used plex. I only ever use Jellyfin, I don't feel a need to use anything else. It works perfectly fine. I never understood why people went for Plex.
Mainly external sharing, I think, since it isbway easier (because of Plex controlling rhe connection?) The Roku app is better, and the cataloguing is better.
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e0qdk@reddthat.com · 67 pts · 282d
I was considering submitting a bid for 10% of that -- i.e. $3.50 -- but then I realized that Warner Bros is the goddamn Loch Ness monster...
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 281d
I was in Hollywood, looking to add to my tech bro portfolio. I'd been dodging peter thiels satanic priests all afternoon. I stumbled through a tent city, I was feeling drowsy due to fentanyl contact high. After I had kungfoo-ed a gang of immigrant criminals, I saw the studios.
I wandered over, bloody and bruised but victorious. I was in an instant surrounded by stars and starlets, the who's who. Glitz and glamour. A fat man in a suit waddled up to me, it's almost as if he could smell my crypto. He said all this could be mine for 3.50. I spun and threw my arms to the heavens in victorious ecstasy. As I looked back, I realized it was the godamn lock ness monster.
Rusty@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 281d
Plex sucks. Couple of days ago they started to ask for $2 per month to access my files from my tv. I switched to jellyfin and everything works great. Sorry for the rant.
kogasa@programming.dev · 8 pts · 281d
IIRC it's a charge to use their relay servers, which you only need if you don't have a direct connection to your media server. Setting up a direct connection isn't always easy or possible especially for non-technical users, and does come at some small expense to Plex, so it's not that weird to be a paid feature. But if Jellyfin meets your needs that's a good thing, it's probably got a better shot at avoiding enshittification long term.
edit: I was not remembering correctly, even direct (remote) connections are paywalled. You'd need to use some kind of tunnel to make Plex think you're connecting locally.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 6 pts · 281d
I think you're wrong. I have my ports open and I can connect directly to my Plex instance, but if I'm connecting from another IP address Plex wants my money.
kogasa@programming.dev · 6 pts · 281d
Yep, I just double checked and I think it's all remote connections, not just relayed ones. You can probably get around this by setting up a wireguard tunnel or something to make Plex think you're connecting locally, but it's definitely going to be easier to just use Jellyfin if you haven't already set that up
Seefoo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 281d
that implies you may have a misconfiguration? I am pretty sure local access is still free, no? its possible your TV is connecting through remote due to either rebind issue OR some other local subnet setup you have.
Rusty@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 281d
My PC and my TV are in the same local network and plex was not trying to change me until the last week. I don't even have any subnets. Also I don't want to troubleshoot this issue, Jellyfin just works for me and I like using the open source projects.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 281d
How many user profiles does it support?
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 281d
Can explain how the fuck to use Jellyfin. I can't get it to cast, unable to get it on the Roku app. All around it just doesn't work.
lps2@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 281d
How are you running it and on what hardware?
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 281d
And old laptop with Linux Mint.
lps2@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 281d
Did you install it from the repos, build from source, or run in docker?
Either docker or the repos is recommended
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/installation/linux#debian--ubuntu-and-derivatives
Once you've confirmed what method, can you access it on the laptop you're running it on by going to https://127.0.0.1:8096/ ?
Once you confirm local access, we can take a look at your firewall rules to ensure port 8096 on that laptop is reachable by other devices on your network.
PineRune@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 281d
Unfortunately for me, my TV does not support Jellyfin. I'll probably be getting a device for it that does though.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
RaspberryPi4 is cheap and will play essentially any media.
BigDiction@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 281d
I mean it’s 2 fuckin dollars a month. If you’ve got a setup that can utilize plex you’re probably running at least $800 worth of hardware that costs more than $2 in electricity per month.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 281d
And
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 281d
I used plex to run from subscriptions. People don't always understand the gravity.
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 281d
Warner fires back with a counter offer where Plex has to purchase a WarnerPass. A subscription service where the available features and pricing are subject to change at any time.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 14 pts · 281d
Related pro-tip: if you use Plex and you also think it's enshittifying, switch to Jellyfin. You can run it side by side with Plex and point it at the same library folders.
victorz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
Beware that Jellyfin is not good with duplicates, if you have a lot of those. You have to rename your files for duplicates to be recognized. Not great if your files come from the... sea.
kameecoding@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 281d
Radarr and Sonarr automatically renames the files doesn't it? What kind of a setup are you running?
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
You can also use Filebot to ingest files that have Caribbean sailor names and put the into a Jellyfin-compatible directory structure, renamed correctly.
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
Sailing 🏴☠️ a private scene tracker and need to seed for a long time. Can't really rename scene releases...
lemming741@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 281d
Enter: the hardlink
https://trash-guides.info/File-and-Folder-Structure/Hardlinks-and-Instant-Moves/
victorz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
I know about hard links but it's still doing more work than Plex in this regard. Some work vs no work. 🤷♂️ I'm not opposed to work but I'm just saying, Jellyfin is inferior in this single regard.
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 281d
Hardlinks only work if both files are on the same file system. If that's an issue I'd just copy the files and delete when done seeding.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 11 pts · 282d
Fingers crossed!
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 281d
It's wild to me that people still use Plex. It used to be free with no registration required, I left when they started wanting a user on their system since I knew that would end up turning into requiring a subscription.
kalpol@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 281d
I left when I saw all the attempts to send logs back to the mothership.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 281d
Jesus, wait until the jellyfiners hear about this.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 281d
I'm not the happiest with Plex but honestly I'd prefer they have it than a bigger company
Scrollone@feddit.it · 9 pts · 281d
Sir, this is an Onion article.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 281d
I bid 34
HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
ikidd@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
Jesus, that had me for a second...
sundray@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 281d
If Trump’s kids were getting a taste of that, Plex would genuinely be in the running.
pigup@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 281d
I never used plex. I only ever use Jellyfin, I don't feel a need to use anything else. It works perfectly fine. I never understood why people went for Plex.
Atropos@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
Plex was first, there were quite a few years where I used it before immediately hopping on Jellyfin when it became an option.
kalpol@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 281d
Mainly external sharing, I think, since it isbway easier (because of Plex controlling rhe connection?) The Roku app is better, and the cataloguing is better.
Still not worth it.