Ever since the coup before the start of the war in Ukraine, European leaders should have understood that America doesn't care where the battlefield is as long as there is one, and Europe is just as valid as Iraq and Somalia. 🤷
It's still a cool border agreement though. The new border goes right down the middle of the island, but it is agreed that whoever manages to get their sorry ass to that piece of cold rock are free to roam the entirety of it.
Denmark is also the leader of the EU movement to break encryption, mass surveil all EU citizens (to make sure nobody pushes back against the corporate bank ownership , but "for the children's of course), then because they broke encryption, ultimately give access to everyone's mass surveillance data to foreign nations and bad actors.
The whole "it's Putin" is a red herring. It's the heritage foundation and the rest of the usanian kleptocrats that designed this status quo, it may be convenient to Putin but you can be sure as shit that the US' problem is homegrown. One doesn't have to travel too much in time to see the same problem marching the streets of NY.
Did you read Putin's own essay on his imperial fantasies? The Foundations of geopolitics; Surkov theater? Let's not pull the Glenn Greenwald blind-eye RussiaGate nonsense and pretend that russia is innocent in all this. There is an absurd amount of evidence that this is the exact goal of Putin for many, many years — particularly the fragmentation of NATO, and why he was hinging on Trump's reelection ideally to invade Ukraine in the first place. The one piece of puzzle that luckily failed and likely led to Ukraine being able to mount an effective defense against his main invasion.
Moreover it has also been very obvious that the Republican administration, and that includes think-tanks like Heritage, have been infiltrated. There's a reason Trump is Agent Krasnov. There's a reason former Trump officials were literally imprisoned before they were pardoned for essentially spying on behalf of russia. There is a reason Putin spent a lot of time and resources seeking Trump's winning every election. There is a reason Trump is picking fights with Denmark over Greenland and right out of the gate picked a fight with our closest ally both literally and figuratively, Canada. There is no better explanation than to divide and fracture the west and to give Putin his return on his investment.
You can even look to Hungary (and again the obsession with right-wing domestic media interest) as a proving-ground for Putin.
Yes, let's ignore the US influence by funding all of these right wing media outlets, or Bannon's funding/genesis of neonazi parties throughout the EU. Or meta/Facebook's, Googles and Apple's convenient contribution to the massive shift in the overton window. Russia did plenty, but the lion's share of the responsibility is with the US people and kleptocrats.
It's like The Office meme; "They're the same picture."
Also, more importantly, what do Meta, Google, and Apple have to do with picking tariff wars with Canada and fighting over Greenland with Denmark? Like I'm all for shitting on corporations and their pathological pursuit of profit, but I'm not yet seeing the connection.
BoTh PaRtIeS are always in power; one could not exist without the other, a massive good cop/bad cop routine. They don't hide it; no conspiring is necessary.
If you sit at a table with Nazis, you are a Nazi, and so on.
33 Comments
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 100 pts · 257d
Ever since the coup before the start of the war in Ukraine, European leaders should have understood that America doesn't care where the battlefield is as long as there is one, and Europe is just as valid as Iraq and Somalia. 🤷
Nanook@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 257d
Speaking truth.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 257d
Which coup are you talking about?
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 256d
The european settlers coup in America, obviously.
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 257d
'Surely the leopards wouldn't eat my face?'
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 35 pts · 257d
Canada and Denmark have been ruthlessly fighting over a piece of land for decades with whiskey and good cheer! The world could learn from this.
SpermHowitzer@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 257d
Unfortunately they came to a deal a couple years ago and established an agreed upon border, which is sad.
bstix@feddit.dk · 25 pts · 257d
It's still a cool border agreement though. The new border goes right down the middle of the island, but it is agreed that whoever manages to get their sorry ass to that piece of cold rock are free to roam the entirety of it.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 257d
I hope whoever does still bring whisky to share.
apex32@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 257d
Wikipedia article: Whisky War
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 256d
I thin the wider European populations are already in no doubt. Politics can be very slow.
Bunbury@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 255d
Not just are politics slow, but it’s difficult getting governments aligned enough to:
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 256d
Total power move doing it after the social media accounts thing, and not after the USA threatened war with them.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 256d
Thank you, Denmark.
webp@mander.xyz · 17 pts · 256d
"Did you hear that? Number one."
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 257d
Based.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 256d
Denmark is also the leader of the EU movement to break encryption, mass surveil all EU citizens (to make sure nobody pushes back against the corporate bank ownership , but "for the children's of course), then because they broke encryption, ultimately give access to everyone's mass surveillance data to foreign nations and bad actors.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 256d
Encryption back doors are not based.
plyth@feddit.org · 4 pts · 256d
literally
https://apnews.com/article/denmark-united-states-military-bases-greenland-749f68105ff6452ebfeb7ab2cbc282b7
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 255d
And yet they still buy skewers of F35. Go figure.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
first time? why now? why not eight years ago?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 256d
Things really are worse now.
Prikkeres@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 255d
To quote a certain chemistry teacher: “You’re g•dd@mn right!”
m33@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 257d
Late to the party, or waited until now to make it a public announcement
lennybird@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 257d
They would be wise to caveat the security risk being only when Republicans are in power as it currently stands.
This is much of Putin's plan to fracture long held western alliances. He sees these headlines and sees his return on investment.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 256d
It's not Denmark's burden to keep track of whether or not America is on or off it's meds.
lennybird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 256d
Never said it was. I said it would be wise for them to do so and ultimately in their own interest to do so, though.
verdi@feddit.org · 5 pts · 256d
The whole "it's Putin" is a red herring. It's the heritage foundation and the rest of the usanian kleptocrats that designed this status quo, it may be convenient to Putin but you can be sure as shit that the US' problem is homegrown. One doesn't have to travel too much in time to see the same problem marching the streets of NY.
lennybird@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 256d
Did you read Putin's own essay on his imperial fantasies? The Foundations of geopolitics; Surkov theater? Let's not pull the Glenn Greenwald blind-eye RussiaGate nonsense and pretend that russia is innocent in all this. There is an absurd amount of evidence that this is the exact goal of Putin for many, many years — particularly the fragmentation of NATO, and why he was hinging on Trump's reelection ideally to invade Ukraine in the first place. The one piece of puzzle that luckily failed and likely led to Ukraine being able to mount an effective defense against his main invasion.
Moreover it has also been very obvious that the Republican administration, and that includes think-tanks like Heritage, have been infiltrated. There's a reason Trump is Agent Krasnov. There's a reason former Trump officials were literally imprisoned before they were pardoned for essentially spying on behalf of russia. There is a reason Putin spent a lot of time and resources seeking Trump's winning every election. There is a reason Trump is picking fights with Denmark over Greenland and right out of the gate picked a fight with our closest ally both literally and figuratively, Canada. There is no better explanation than to divide and fracture the west and to give Putin his return on his investment.
You can even look to Hungary (and again the obsession with right-wing domestic media interest) as a proving-ground for Putin.
verdi@feddit.org · 2 pts · 256d
Yes, let's ignore the US influence by funding all of these right wing media outlets, or Bannon's funding/genesis of neonazi parties throughout the EU. Or meta/Facebook's, Googles and Apple's convenient contribution to the massive shift in the overton window. Russia did plenty, but the lion's share of the responsibility is with the US people and kleptocrats.
lennybird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 255d
It's like The Office meme; "They're the same picture."
Also, more importantly, what do Meta, Google, and Apple have to do with picking tariff wars with Canada and fighting over Greenland with Denmark? Like I'm all for shitting on corporations and their pathological pursuit of profit, but I'm not yet seeing the connection.
verdi@feddit.org · 1 pts · 255d
Without Alphabet, Meta, Apple and the rest of the kleptocrats, Donny wouldn't have won the election.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 255d
BoTh PaRtIeS are always in power; one could not exist without the other, a massive good cop/bad cop routine. They don't hide it; no conspiring is necessary.
If you sit at a table with Nazis, you are a Nazi, and so on.