Well let's be clear. Far too many of us do. Problematically, most of them are far too insulated from reality to understand or care. They just want what they want and fuck anyone else.
I didn't, yet I still can't wrap my hand around what my people has been doing since 24.02.2022, and my mind goes into the past asking what coould've I done to prevent this to no result.
Not sure how countries can regret anything, but as a Russian I've been regretting Putin for the last 18 years since I was old enough to understand politics a bit.
How do you feel watching it all happen in Hungary, US,
... Italy (we'll see, depending on US backing), Venezuela, Turkey on the way too I guess and looming in UK/DE/FR. It's spreading like a contagion in very different societies with different inequalities, safety nets, work cultures and subgroups...I blame the social media format for favouring illiberal ideas through the way it was engineered...
As we know from many credible reports, Russia directly supported the raise of populism and polarization of societies in many countries. There are Russian traces in Brexit, AfD raise, USA elections in 2016 and 2024, etc.
What I see currently in the USA reminds strongly of what happened in Russian politics across the last 3 decades, but squished into months, not even years.
So yeah, I'm worried. But I also hope that once Putin is gone, many authoritarian political forces would fold like a house of cards.
Putin played us against ourselves. But he didn't create it. Just harnessed it. The government has been full of sycophantic yes men, for generations at this point. Longer than Gen Z or Millennials have been alive. Likely longer than Gen X has been alive as well.
Yes, Nixon stepped down in shame. But they didn't make sure there could be no new Nixon's. They made sure they'd be insulated from consequences or shame and elected someone worse.
There is nothing left even remotely resembling journalism and they only focus on Trump so they can ignore the MAGA friends in Germany's goverment doing variations of the exact same shit.
Yeah, actually just minutes after this comment I saw the latest joke at Spiegel writing about far-right European parties and the AfD in Germany in particular building up connections with MAGA in the US... while just -and totally concidently of course- forgetting to say a single word about the fact the the governing CDU did exactly the same and there are several loud massive MAGA-fanbois in their leading ranks right now.
That's not journalism. That's a laughable "Look over there! Nothing happening here"-diversion.
Honestly. Nobody remembering Spahn going to visit with maga and heritage foundation, obviously building networks and learning strategy... Yeah it's not great that the afd is doing it but the press needs to do a better job showing similarities between these actions
Hey, um, this might seem kinda random, but how is this not projection? Is this not, EXACTLY, what America and Europe have been trying to do to Russia, for like, decades now? Mind you, for good reason, but that's beyond the point.
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Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 59 pts · 268d
They already have released some other very good covers with the orange man.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/photo-gallery-der-spiegel-s-trump-covers-a-95076ff3-d67c-4373-ae39-c03b79435ed2
HowRu68@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 268d
Holy shit! Der Spiegel really have been busy. Some really good ones too.
einkorn@feddit.org · 50 pts · 268d
Should be the other way around. Trump is the "serious" guy, while Putin is the one laughing in the back "holding the strings".
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 268d
Trump is the jolly face to the public and Putin is the straight man, intelligent enough to make decisions.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 3 pts · 268d
Trump is the evil Costello to Putin's malevolent Abbot.
EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 268d
I agree for a different reason. Trump bottoms and Putin tops.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 268d
I have the impression that, not instantly, but in a couple of years, their two countries will be regretting all this.
CHAPINONG@feddit.dk · 22 pts · 268d
I’m sure that many of their peoples already do
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 268d
Regretting implies we ever supported it
Eldritch@piefed.world · 7 pts · 268d
Well let's be clear. Far too many of us do. Problematically, most of them are far too insulated from reality to understand or care. They just want what they want and fuck anyone else.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 268d
I didn't, yet I still can't wrap my hand around what my people has been doing since 24.02.2022, and my mind goes into the past asking what coould've I done to prevent this to no result.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 267d
No, you could have regretted it already when it happened.
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 267d
Not sure how countries can regret anything, but as a Russian I've been regretting Putin for the last 18 years since I was old enough to understand politics a bit.
Yeah yeah, and yet I didn't stop him, I know.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 267d
At least you're aware, and not here gas lighting us.
Gsus4@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 267d
How do you feel watching it all happen in Hungary, US,
... Italy (we'll see, depending on US backing), Venezuela, Turkey on the way too I guess and looming in UK/DE/FR. It's spreading like a contagion in very different societies with different inequalities, safety nets, work cultures and subgroups...I blame the social media format for favouring illiberal ideas through the way it was engineered...
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 267d
I feel badly, of course, and have 2 observations.
So yeah, I'm worried. But I also hope that once Putin is gone, many authoritarian political forces would fold like a house of cards.
Maggoty@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 267d
Have you seen the polling in the US? He's trying to gin up a literal drug war for a reason.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 267d
So you're saying the invasion in Venezuela is only another item in the propaganda toolbox?
HowRu68@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 268d
The Trumptator never smiles, that's why he looks so odd in this pic.
regdog@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 267d
You got it the wrong way around: Trump does smile sometimes, but Putin never smiles in pictures.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 12 pts · 268d
I don't usually read it, but this time I need to buy one. On real paper, because paper outlasts wars.
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 267d
Well said:)
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 268d
Without Putin/ Russia, Trump never wins 2016.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 11 pts · 268d
Putin played us against ourselves. But he didn't create it. Just harnessed it. The government has been full of sycophantic yes men, for generations at this point. Longer than Gen Z or Millennials have been alive. Likely longer than Gen X has been alive as well.
Yes, Nixon stepped down in shame. But they didn't make sure there could be no new Nixon's. They made sure they'd be insulated from consequences or shame and elected someone worse.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 7 pts · 267d
Never underestimate americans.
Damage@feddit.it · 4 pts · 267d
I think you may be lying to yourself to ignore the truth about your fellow humans
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 268d
Correct.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 268d
Forgive me for intruding as an american, what is der spigel?
Hello from the other side of the Atlantic, sorry everything sucks so bad
Evolushan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 268d
Main German newspaper
ShotDonkey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 268d
Centre-left (or as you call it: liberal) German quality news magazine.
modus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 268d
Left-leaning German news mag. I haven't read it in years but I think they publish an English translation too.
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 268d
Finally, what is left of the German press woke up.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 268d
What do you mean? The German press has always been both Anti-Trump and Anti-Putin. Even way before 2022
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 268d
Largely they have been pretending that Trump is in any way sane and not totally unhinged.
The problem of him very obviously being a Russian Asset has also been downplayed a lot.
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 268d
How could Trump with his known Russian connections get past the American billionaires?
CaptObvious@literature.cafe · 5 pts · 268d
They and the Heritage Foundation find him to be a useful idiot.
plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 268d
Which means that he fulfills their goals and whatever benefits Russia is a coincidence.
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 267d
I guess same with Putin – he was painted a pragmatic villain and not a senile man with nukes that he is.
Ooops@feddit.org · 7 pts · 268d
Sorry, but no.
There is nothing left even remotely resembling journalism and they only focus on Trump so they can ignore the MAGA friends in Germany's goverment doing variations of the exact same shit.
B0rax@feddit.org · 1 pts · 267d
Sadly this…
philpo@feddit.org · 1 pts · 267d
Wut? Have you read Spiegel, SZ or TAZ in the last years?
Ooops@feddit.org · 6 pts · 267d
Yeah, actually just minutes after this comment I saw the latest joke at Spiegel writing about far-right European parties and the AfD in Germany in particular building up connections with MAGA in the US... while just -and totally concidently of course- forgetting to say a single word about the fact the the governing CDU did exactly the same and there are several loud massive MAGA-fanbois in their leading ranks right now.
That's not journalism. That's a laughable "Look over there! Nothing happening here"-diversion.
killingspark@feddit.org · 4 pts · 267d
Honestly. Nobody remembering Spahn going to visit with maga and heritage foundation, obviously building networks and learning strategy... Yeah it's not great that the afd is doing it but the press needs to do a better job showing similarities between these actions
DaMummy@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 267d
Hey, um, this might seem kinda random, but how is this not projection? Is this not, EXACTLY, what America and Europe have been trying to do to Russia, for like, decades now? Mind you, for good reason, but that's beyond the point.