I very much understand why the software hits end of support but goddamn itās irritating when something this simple is gated.
Going back to Siri on iPhone 4 (only 4S supported it despite no hardware limitation) and perhaps earlier, Apple gates features behind hardware upgrades for no reason beyond selling new hardware (eg Apple AI on iPhone 15 Pro, not plus, but itās all in the cloud anyways). This makes it difficult to have a reasonable conversation about legitimately EOL devices - an iPad thatās EOL doesnāt get the feature for med notification because itās packaged with the other OS changes and the amount of work to backport it to an older OS version is significant.
(eg Apple AI on iPhone 15 Pro, not plus, but itās all in the cloud anyways)
It isnāt, though. Apple does a significant amount of their AI processing locally. Itās part of why theyāre ābehindā the competition, but I actually see it as a plus due to the privacy advantages.
(When they do go to the cloud, that is, when the on-board models are insufficient, first it goes to Appleās servers, where the request is reportedly handled without any tracking or logging. If Appleās AI isnāt good enough, it will ask if it can send the request to ChatGPT, and then even that connection goes through Apple instead of through your account so tracking is minimized.)
Apple cares about privacy, or at least cares about appearing to care about privacy. Theyāre obviously not at the level of GrapheneOS or something, but for a mainstream retail phone company, theyāre better than most in this regard.
From recollection, the chip in the iPhone 15 had the capacity to do the local model and perhaps they turned it on in an iPad. Or perhaps Iām confused. That happens a lot.
The iPads with AI support are the Pro ones with M processors, same series that the MacBooks use. (Believe it or not, iPad actually got the M4 before the MacBooks did.) Unless theyāve enabled it in the newest iPads running A series processors, which may have the AI cores that the iPhone 15 Pro and later have. I donāt know, I havenāt followed any iPad news in a while. My iPad Pro is mostly an extremely overpowered sheet music device that I occasionally use for productive tasks or Moonlight/Xbox/video streaming. š
We used to get support for 5-9 yearsā¦ the company is still unimaginably wealthy, but the fucking accountant-in-chief decided that he needed a few more Ferraris.
Tim Cook can eat a dickā¦ (Or maybe that shouldāve been pussy? I donāt want him to enjoy it.) š
Especially if you bump the OS 8 versions for no fucking reasonā¦ oh no wait! Rounded corners and a jellybean aesthetic were totally worth it š¤® Tim Cookās victory lap before he dies is to relive the early 2K š
Right, except Linux runs on 40 year old hardware, and it could run on any Apple device if they weren't an anti-competitive cartel and we didn't live in corporate dictatorships masquerading as "democracy".
Apple tried to make a platform that functions as a hybrid phone/laptop.
Android tried to make a big phone and Google saved the laptop-experience for ChromeOS.
Add to this...I don't think there's a single good keyboard case for android tablets. Maybe a semi-decent one for some flagship models...but nothing that compares to the official apple keyboard.
I mean, buying a two year-old one is probably the only way to guarantee that you donāt have to fucking root it with a bunch of ADB commandsā¦ at least one of which will be left out of the tutorial, which you will have to watch five times, on reduced speed, because itās a video tutorial made by a 13 year old or developer with a thick accent*.
Iām going to get called out for racism hereā¦ itās not. I love anyone who takes the time and effort to put together a tutorial that I need to watch to get stuff doneā¦ but I do miss written instructions š¢
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CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 16 pts · 274d
I very much understand why the software hits end of support but goddamn itās irritating when something this simple is gated.
Going back to Siri on iPhone 4 (only 4S supported it despite no hardware limitation) and perhaps earlier, Apple gates features behind hardware upgrades for no reason beyond selling new hardware (eg Apple AI on iPhone 15 Pro, not plus, but itās all in the cloud anyways). This makes it difficult to have a reasonable conversation about legitimately EOL devices - an iPad thatās EOL doesnāt get the feature for med notification because itās packaged with the other OS changes and the amount of work to backport it to an older OS version is significant.
TheRealKuni@piefed.social · 4 pts · 274d
It isnāt, though. Apple does a significant amount of their AI processing locally. Itās part of why theyāre ābehindā the competition, but I actually see it as a plus due to the privacy advantages.
(When they do go to the cloud, that is, when the on-board models are insufficient, first it goes to Appleās servers, where the request is reportedly handled without any tracking or logging. If Appleās AI isnāt good enough, it will ask if it can send the request to ChatGPT, and then even that connection goes through Apple instead of through your account so tracking is minimized.)
Apple cares about privacy, or at least cares about appearing to care about privacy. Theyāre obviously not at the level of GrapheneOS or something, but for a mainstream retail phone company, theyāre better than most in this regard.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 274d
From recollection, the chip in the iPhone 15 had the capacity to do the local model and perhaps they turned it on in an iPad. Or perhaps Iām confused. That happens a lot.
TheRealKuni@piefed.social · 1 pts · 274d
The iPads with AI support are the Pro ones with M processors, same series that the MacBooks use. (Believe it or not, iPad actually got the M4 before the MacBooks did.) Unless theyāve enabled it in the newest iPads running A series processors, which may have the AI cores that the iPhone 15 Pro and later have. I donāt know, I havenāt followed any iPad news in a while. My iPad Pro is mostly an extremely overpowered sheet music device that I occasionally use for productive tasks or Moonlight/Xbox/video streaming. š
noahimesaka1873@lemmy.funami.tech · 1 pts · 274d
Because it's about RAM. It requires 8GB of RAM which iPhone 15 doesn't. (But 15 Pro does.)
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 274d
Ah, true.
sramder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
We used to get support for 5-9 yearsā¦ the company is still unimaginably wealthy, but the fucking accountant-in-chief decided that he needed a few more Ferraris.
Tim Cook can eat a dickā¦ (Or maybe that shouldāve been pussy? I donāt want him to enjoy it.) š
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 274d
Is that because it's too old to be updated? Never had an ipad or iphone, so I genuinely have no clue.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 274d
Planned obsolescence
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 274d
I mean, yeah. No OS or hardware is going to be supported indefinitely. Everything will EoL eventually.
sramder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
Especially if you bump the OS 8 versions for no fucking reasonā¦ oh no wait! Rounded corners and a jellybean aesthetic were totally worth it š¤® Tim Cookās victory lap before he dies is to relive the early 2K š
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 271d
Right, except Linux runs on 40 year old hardware, and it could run on any Apple device if they weren't an anti-competitive cartel and we didn't live in corporate dictatorships masquerading as "democracy".
sramder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
Bingoā¦ itās like 3.9* iOSes out of date and my broke ass canāt afford an upgrade after paying 1.8K for a fucking phone 2 years ago.
*8 if weāre counting the bullshit version bump iOS 26 š
dan1101@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
There are unfortunately no decent Android tablets though. iPads are much nicer overall as far as I can tell.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 274d
Because android lacks cohesion there.
Apple tried to make a platform that functions as a hybrid phone/laptop.
Android tried to make a big phone and Google saved the laptop-experience for ChromeOS.
Add to this...I don't think there's a single good keyboard case for android tablets. Maybe a semi-decent one for some flagship models...but nothing that compares to the official apple keyboard.
But now ChromeOS is dying so....what do?
skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 274d
sramder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 274d
LOL š
I mean, buying a two year-old one is probably the only way to guarantee that you donāt have to fucking root it with a bunch of ADB commandsā¦ at least one of which will be left out of the tutorial, which you will have to watch five times, on reduced speed, because itās a video tutorial made by a 13 year old or developer with a thick accent*.
sramder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 274d
Strongly agreeā¦ although this BS has given me pause for thought several times.