TIL Benedict Cumberbatch is the third cousin, 16 times removed from King Richard III who he played in a British miniseries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch

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Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 86 pts · 230d (3 replies)

Third cousin, 16 times removed encompasses pretty much the entire population.

DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 230d

Think you got that backwards. [Third] cousin means distance in relation, "[N] removed" refers to how many generations apart they are.

KitB@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 230d

IIRC, third cousin is pretty close, n times removed is just generation gap. I mean it makes little difference, genetically, but being that close to a royal within written history is probably a good indication of generational wealth.

limer@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 230d

I once heard that everyone on earth is 42nd cousin or closer

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 58 pts · 230d (2 replies)

Enzy@feddit.nu · 16 pts · 230d

Very, very, veeery distant relative's.

Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 230d

Absolutely nothing!

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 230d

A true nepo baby.

IWW4@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 230d (2 replies)

LMAO @ third cousin 16 times removed.

I had to Google that shit. It means:

A third cousin 16 times removed is an extremely distant relative, meaning you share common great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparent

What I want to know is how many 3rd cousins 16 times removed Brigham Young has? The dude had 50 wives child sex slaves and 450 children.

spongebue@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 230d

Kinda sorta. Cousins mean you share grandparents. Second cousins share great-grandparents. Third cousins share great-great-grandparents.

The the "removed" refers to generations. My first cousin's kid is my first cousin, once removed. His kid (my cousin's grandparent) will be my first cousin, twice removed. So 16x removed would be 14x great-grandparent/child.

In other words, Benedict Cumberbatch's 14x great-grandparent shared a great-great-grandparent with... Was it a king we were talking about? I already forgot OP.

TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 230d

laughs in temujin

ComradeMiao@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 230d (4 replies)

Honestly, if you can find one famous person in your ancestry you can probably find you're related to anyone in Western history. IDK about Richard III but I can find many kings of England and presidents of the US I'm related to.

ValiantDust@feddit.org · 11 pts · 230d (3 replies)

I remember a professor at uni telling us that at some time in the future each of us will either be the ancestor of every living human or of none.

Equally, if you go back far enough, you will find a common ancestor with every other living person, thus making us all related.

While that seems unintuitive – what about the members of some remote tribe without contact to civilisation? –, keep in mind that even the most remote tribe has to have contact with some neighbouring people . Otherwise they wouldn't have enough genetic diversity. And those neighbours are in contact with their neighbours and so on.

Edit: Changed "intuitive" to "unintuitive"... Oops

toynbee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 230d (2 replies)
ValiantDust@feddit.org · 3 pts · 230d (1 reply)

That's exclusively through the matrilineal line though. The most recent ancestor is much more recent.

But your article linked to what I was referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point (and the mitochondrial Eve is a cool concept either way)

toynbee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 230d

Agreed about the concept being cool.

Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 230d (1 reply)

Just another goddamned nepo baby, then? I knew it.

ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 230d

His parents are both longstanding actors, and appeared as his parents in Sherlock.

notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 230d (2 replies)

That’s a coincidence! A few years back my mother told me I’m the third cousin, 15 times removed from Melania Trump.

kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 230d (1 reply)

Removed essentially means "separated by a generation", so I doubt you're 15 generations removed from Melania.

I assume it's more like 15th cousin 3 times removed.

notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 230d

Us you are right! Mea culpa.

Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 230d (1 reply)
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Draces@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 230d

Truly a cancer on mankind

ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 5 pts · 230d

I imagine many Brits are, they're just unable to pay for cousin reattachment surgery.

Nanook@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 230d

Everybody related. Charlemagne is your great grandaddy. Get over it.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 230d (1 reply)

The whole island is inbred.

yakko@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 230d

Not true, there are also a few immigrants holding on for dear life!

DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 3 pts · 230d (1 reply)

If all men are brothers, would you want one to marry your sister?

ValiantDust@feddit.org · 3 pts · 230d

To bring it back to Shakespeare:

Adam's sons are my brethren, and truly I hold it a sin to match in my kindred.

KittenBiscuits@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 229d (2 replies)

Was that the guy they found under a carpark several years back? The king, not the actor.

restingboredface@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 229d

Yes! Here's a nice summary of the recovery. https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/the-discovery-of-king-richard-iiis-burial-site

If youre a history buff, I highly recommend History Calling's video on Richard III and the loss and recovery of his body. It's lengthy but well researched and has lots of interesting context.

Quilotoa@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 229d

Yeah. TIL

ripcord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 230d

I'm your 19th cousin twice removed

Codpiece@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 230d

I’ve a hunch I am too.

BigBrownBeaver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 222d

Why was he removed sixteen times?

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 230d

Interesting

gaiussabinus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 230d

Yes, didn't Richard the III play himself in black adder?

atro_city@fedia.io · 1 pts · 230d

Let's be serious, there's a reason that island is known for its close ties.

EfreetSK@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 190d

Wait so Richard isn't his direct ancestor? Just that Richard's great-great grandparents are the same as Cumberbatch' great-...-great grandparents. Do I understand it right?