IIRC, third cousin is pretty close, n times removed is just generation gap. I mean it makes little difference, genetically, but being that close to a royal within written history is probably a good indication of generational wealth.
A third cousin 16 times removed is an extremely distant relative, meaning you share common great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparent
What I want to know is how many 3rd cousins 16 times removed Brigham Young has? The dude had 50 wives child sex slaves and 450 children.
Kinda sorta. Cousins mean you share grandparents. Second cousins share great-grandparents. Third cousins share great-great-grandparents.
The the "removed" refers to generations. My first cousin's kid is my first cousin, once removed. His kid (my cousin's grandparent) will be my first cousin, twice removed. So 16x removed would be 14x great-grandparent/child.
In other words, Benedict Cumberbatch's 14x great-grandparent shared a great-great-grandparent with... Was it a king we were talking about? I already forgot OP.
Honestly, if you can find one famous person in your ancestry you can probably find you're related to anyone in Western history. IDK about Richard III but I can find many kings of England and presidents of the US I'm related to.
I remember a professor at uni telling us that at some time in the future each of us will either be the ancestor of every living human or of none.
Equally, if you go back far enough, you will find a common ancestor with every other living person, thus making us all related.
While that seems unintuitive – what about the members of some remote tribe without contact to civilisation? –, keep in mind that even the most remote tribe has to have contact with some neighbouring people . Otherwise they wouldn't have enough genetic diversity. And those neighbours are in contact with their neighbours and so on.
Edit: Changed "intuitive" to "unintuitive"... Oops
If youre a history buff, I highly recommend History Calling's video on Richard III and the loss and recovery of his body. It's lengthy but well researched and has lots of interesting context.
Wait so Richard isn't his direct ancestor? Just that Richard's great-great grandparents are the same as Cumberbatch' great-...-great grandparents. Do I understand it right?
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Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 86 pts · 230d
Third cousin, 16 times removed encompasses pretty much the entire population.
DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 230d
Think you got that backwards. [Third] cousin means distance in relation, "[N] removed" refers to how many generations apart they are.
KitB@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 230d
IIRC, third cousin is pretty close, n times removed is just generation gap. I mean it makes little difference, genetically, but being that close to a royal within written history is probably a good indication of generational wealth.
limer@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 230d
I once heard that everyone on earth is 42nd cousin or closer
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 58 pts · 230d
Enzy@feddit.nu · 16 pts · 230d
Very, very, veeery distant relative's.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 230d
Absolutely nothing!
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 230d
A true nepo baby.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 230d
LMAO @ third cousin 16 times removed.
I had to Google that shit. It means:
A third cousin 16 times removed is an extremely distant relative, meaning you share common great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparent
What I want to know is how many 3rd cousins 16 times removed Brigham Young has? The dude had 50
wiveschild sex slaves and 450 children.spongebue@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 230d
Kinda sorta. Cousins mean you share grandparents. Second cousins share great-grandparents. Third cousins share great-great-grandparents.
The the "removed" refers to generations. My first cousin's kid is my first cousin, once removed. His kid (my cousin's grandparent) will be my first cousin, twice removed. So 16x removed would be 14x great-grandparent/child.
In other words, Benedict Cumberbatch's 14x great-grandparent shared a great-great-grandparent with... Was it a king we were talking about? I already forgot OP.
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 230d
laughs in temujin
ComradeMiao@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 230d
Honestly, if you can find one famous person in your ancestry you can probably find you're related to anyone in Western history. IDK about Richard III but I can find many kings of England and presidents of the US I'm related to.
ValiantDust@feddit.org · 11 pts · 230d
I remember a professor at uni telling us that at some time in the future each of us will either be the ancestor of every living human or of none.
Equally, if you go back far enough, you will find a common ancestor with every other living person, thus making us all related.
While that seems unintuitive – what about the members of some remote tribe without contact to civilisation? –, keep in mind that even the most remote tribe has to have contact with some neighbouring people . Otherwise they wouldn't have enough genetic diversity. And those neighbours are in contact with their neighbours and so on.
Edit: Changed "intuitive" to "unintuitive"... Oops
toynbee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 230d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
ValiantDust@feddit.org · 3 pts · 230d
That's exclusively through the matrilineal line though. The most recent ancestor is much more recent.
But your article linked to what I was referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point (and the mitochondrial Eve is a cool concept either way)
toynbee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 230d
Agreed about the concept being cool.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 230d
Just another goddamned nepo baby, then? I knew it.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 230d
His parents are both longstanding actors, and appeared as his parents in Sherlock.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 230d
That’s a coincidence! A few years back my mother told me I’m the third cousin, 15 times removed from Melania Trump.
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 230d
Removed essentially means "separated by a generation", so I doubt you're 15 generations removed from Melania.
I assume it's more like 15th cousin 3 times removed.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 230d
Us you are right! Mea culpa.
Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 230d
Draces@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 230d
Truly a cancer on mankind
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 5 pts · 230d
I imagine many Brits are, they're just unable to pay for cousin reattachment surgery.
Nanook@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 230d
Everybody related. Charlemagne is your great grandaddy. Get over it.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 230d
The whole island is inbred.
yakko@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 230d
Not true, there are also a few immigrants holding on for dear life!
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 3 pts · 230d
If all men are brothers, would you want one to marry your sister?
ValiantDust@feddit.org · 3 pts · 230d
To bring it back to Shakespeare:
KittenBiscuits@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 229d
Was that the guy they found under a carpark several years back? The king, not the actor.
restingboredface@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 229d
Yes! Here's a nice summary of the recovery. https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/the-discovery-of-king-richard-iiis-burial-site
If youre a history buff, I highly recommend History Calling's video on Richard III and the loss and recovery of his body. It's lengthy but well researched and has lots of interesting context.
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 229d
Yeah. TIL
ripcord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 230d
I'm your 19th cousin twice removed
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 230d
I’ve a hunch I am too.
BigBrownBeaver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 222d
Why was he removed sixteen times?
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 230d
Interesting
gaiussabinus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 230d
Yes, didn't Richard the III play himself in black adder?
atro_city@fedia.io · 1 pts · 230d
Let's be serious, there's a reason that island is known for its close ties.
EfreetSK@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 190d
Wait so Richard isn't his direct ancestor? Just that Richard's great-great grandparents are the same as Cumberbatch' great-...-great grandparents. Do I understand it right?