Imagine being a billionaire in the mood to be generous and making a large donation... and that's the best you can come up with. Giving 10 cars to the police. WTF.
The police were probably about to open an investigation into said billionaire for child sex trafficking. Sadly, all of the evidence just suddenly went missing.
Cause I'm saying it's simpler than that. It's just advertising for the business to his clientele. That clientele would include right wing "back the blue" types that would love to own a truck that some unspecified swat type team trusts. But if they ever actually use these vehicles for that purpose, it'll backfire.
No, you were telling me, a person that didn't imply that it was muskrat, that it wasn't muskrat. Then you make an unsubstantiated claim of who it was. The linked article doesn't say he donated them. You didn't provide any evidence for your claim beyond an implied, "Trust me bro." So my perfectly reasonable conclusion is that you misread the article in the same way you misread my original comment.
How could something go missing when it never existed. Musk has never molested a child. That’s all I have to post right or do you want a thing about how he’s good at video games as well no ats perfect alright they’ll post automatically in a minute or two unga gonna get some coffee
See, a lot of people don't like to put the /s but sometimes it's required. I read it the way you meant it, but I could easily see how people wouldn't see the satire, as it's a bit on the nose. If you wanna do satire or sarcasm, you really should throw in at least one part that is truly absurd to let people know it's not actually defense, or throwing quotes around it if you're wanting to be more subtle. Also you need more exclamation points if you're going to mock the right.
Las Vegas haven't noted whether to keep or sell them.
Any vehicle going into police duty must be "upfitted" aka upgraded with a police package (lights, siren, comms, armor, etc).
Police prefer a certain known standard performance vehicle specs for duty (horsepower, towing, speed, mass, manuvrrability, etc). Teslas are too young to have demonstrated anything of this.
Some out-of-spec police cars (e.g.- retired, siezed, donated) might get another use as community outreach vehicles (D.A.R.E. cars).
Article states an upfitting company named UP.FIT {corrected name} Las Vegas, aka UNPLUGGED PERFORMANCE ®. They are not a preferred public service vehicle upfitter, as they ONLY modify Teslas and only Teslas for contract.
Sheriff McMahill is an uneducated media regurgitator.
A sociology professor of mine worked her first job for Rand. Her assignment was to determine the effectiveness of DARE. She found that it was only effective on eighth grade boys. Rand thanked her, paid her, and shelved the report, because this was the Reagan era.
DARE in wikipedia...
"...In 2002, D.A.R.E. had an annual budget of over $10 million..."
"...in 2012. The new program is called "Keepin' it REAL" and focuses less on lectures and more on interactive activities, such as practicing refusal and saying no to pressure.[9] It is now less explicitly focused on opposition to drugs, with the broader aim of teaching good decision-making..."
It brings in money, so of course they're keeping it alive. They're trying to rebrand it, supposedly helping kids avoid standard teen stuff like suicide, etc. They had a table set up outside of Walgreens a while back. They were well-trained and aggressive, but I've spent a lifetime in sales, much of it training people for that same kind of bullshit, so I have no problem blowing them off. Politely, I'm not a monster, but...No thanks.
Yeah. A vehicle known for trapping occupants when damaged, then burning them alive. Are you sure that’s the kind of vehicle you want to be in when it gets shot at?
And the entire city is going broke because of ridiculous costs and xenophobic policies towards tourists. Those tunnels will be homeless shelters in a few years.
The original design had a 3/16" stainless shell and some very special glass, especially the windshield. I know that the production model is just a similar-shaped cast aluminum Tesla frame with appliance-grade stainless sheets glued to it. It's basically a different vehicle from what they showed off.
A youtube creator showed what the said was a production car being shot with various calibers, the .22 barely dented it and if I remember right it resisted everything up to .45. My issue with that is I've seen the body panels and seen people proving its just the same stainless that a refrigerator has, and about the thickness of any car door, and I put .22 rnds threw both of them many times.
I wanna try see a tesla trebuchet video. I should probably clarify; I mean I want to see a cyber truck launched by a huge trebuchet. Honestly that would be a terrifying weapon. As bad as diseased corpses being launched over castle walls, anyways.
It probably doesn't matter if they are actually bulletproof. They'll be used as propaganda show cars, or personal vehicles for the brass, and never called into actual service.
No one in their right mind is going to pick the "bulletproof" cybertruck over an armored Bearcat in a scenario where they expect to be shot at. For non-tactical applications they're no more or less bulletproof than a standard potrol vehicle.
They are just about as bullet proof as the cars are self driving. Dunno why anyone might think that they would actually be bullet proof, given Musk's track record...
The Sheriff is a fucking moron then, who hasn't done the most cursory due dilligence, a brief internet search as a sanity check.
Like, I hear you, I get the whole concept of information silos / different segments of the hyperreality...
... But it also just actually is utter incompetence, objectively.
There are at least a 100 videos of people shooting at these cybertrucks with various calibers from various ranges. Thats either the same or better quality research than most police organizations produce, other than pre-Trump FBI.
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apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 114 pts · 240d
These things look even dumber as cop cars.
sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org · 43 pts · 240d
robocop was supposed to be absurd and cautionary :(
kyonshi@piefed.social · 23 pts · 240d
It was a satire, but the wrong people took it as aspirational
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 240d
Just like Starship Troopers.
m33@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 240d
But...but... They are doing their part, right?
northernlights@lemmy.today · 79 pts · 240d
Imagine being a billionaire in the mood to be generous and making a large donation... and that's the best you can come up with. Giving 10 cars to the police. WTF.
nulluser@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 240d
The police were probably about to open an investigation into said billionaire for child sex trafficking. Sadly, all of the evidence just suddenly went missing.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 239d
It wasn't musk that donated them. It's the owner of the business that "upfit" them, and for the record, they're contracted to ONLY "up fit" Tesla's.
nulluser@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 239d
So? Why are you telling me? I didn't say it was muskrat. Nobody mentioned him in this thread until after I posted.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 239d
Cause I'm saying it's simpler than that. It's just advertising for the business to his clientele. That clientele would include right wing "back the blue" types that would love to own a truck that some unspecified swat type team trusts. But if they ever actually use these vehicles for that purpose, it'll backfire.
nulluser@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 239d
No, you were telling me, a person that didn't imply that it was muskrat, that it wasn't muskrat. Then you make an unsubstantiated claim of who it was. The linked article doesn't say he donated them. You didn't provide any evidence for your claim beyond an implied, "Trust me bro." So my perfectly reasonable conclusion is that you misread the article in the same way you misread my original comment.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 239d
Read the article again. It says they were donated by UP.FIT.
nulluser@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 239d
Where? All I see is,
That doesn't mean that they're the source of the money that paid for the trucks.
And you still have not addressed the fact that 👏I 👏did 👏not 👏say 👏it 👏was 👏muskrat.
ETA: The company is only mentioned three times in the article. The quote above, plus
and
So, no, it absolutely does NOT say
Reflect@quokk.au · -37 pts · 240d
How could something go missing when it never existed. Musk has never molested a child. That’s all I have to post right or do you want a thing about how he’s good at video games as well no ats perfect alright they’ll post automatically in a minute or two unga gonna get some coffee
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 240d
This is who you’re defending.
Reflect@quokk.au · -8 pts · 239d
You’re silly
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 239d
Not as silly as the fucking Nazi you people are defending.
Reflect@quokk.au · -4 pts · 239d
Chance 3 to actually read my comment?
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 239d
The rule of the contemporary internet is to assume sarcasm is dead. My apologies if you’re the one keeping it alive.
If not, fuck a Nazi.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
See, a lot of people don't like to put the /s but sometimes it's required. I read it the way you meant it, but I could easily see how people wouldn't see the satire, as it's a bit on the nose. If you wanna do satire or sarcasm, you really should throw in at least one part that is truly absurd to let people know it's not actually defense, or throwing quotes around it if you're wanting to be more subtle. Also you need more exclamation points if you're going to mock the right.
crapton_america@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 240d
I kept reading and it was funny.
Yoddel_Hickory@piefed.ca · 14 pts · 240d
This isn't a donation, this is free advertising for Musk to have the police rolling around Vegas in his trucks.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 239d
And their business, the guys "up fitting" these cyber trucks. Which they ONLY "upfit" Tesla's.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 67 pts · 240d
The funny thing about them not being bulletproof will be the batteries getting pierced setting off a fire while they’re locked in.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 240d
I love that for them
VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works · 63 pts · 240d
Fun facts I've gathered up...
BanMe@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 240d
Wait they're still doing DARE after it was shown to increase drug use among teens?
DARE is where I learned to make crack, and made my list of drugs I wanted to try.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 240d
A sociology professor of mine worked her first job for Rand. Her assignment was to determine the effectiveness of DARE. She found that it was only effective on eighth grade boys. Rand thanked her, paid her, and shelved the report, because this was the Reagan era.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
So many reports of studies have been shelved by companies, let alone the government. It'd be fascinating to go through them.
VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 239d
DARE in wikipedia...
"...In 2002, D.A.R.E. had an annual budget of over $10 million..."
"...in 2012. The new program is called "Keepin' it REAL" and focuses less on lectures and more on interactive activities, such as practicing refusal and saying no to pressure.[9] It is now less explicitly focused on opposition to drugs, with the broader aim of teaching good decision-making..."
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 239d
It brings in money, so of course they're keeping it alive. They're trying to rebrand it, supposedly helping kids avoid standard teen stuff like suicide, etc. They had a table set up outside of Walgreens a while back. They were well-trained and aggressive, but I've spent a lifetime in sales, much of it training people for that same kind of bullshit, so I have no problem blowing them off. Politely, I'm not a monster, but...No thanks.
bonenode@piefed.social · 2 pts · 240d
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 239d
Oh, sweet summer child, you thought they were actually trying to reduce drug use?
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 55 pts · 240d
They aren’t even waterproof.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 240d
That's why they are in Las Vegas
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
Flash floods are a real threat in Vegas.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 41 pts · 240d
Are you sure that's the only problem?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 240d
Yeah. A vehicle known for trapping occupants when damaged, then burning them alive. Are you sure that’s the kind of vehicle you want to be in when it gets shot at?
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 33 pts · 240d
That is exactly the kind of vehicle I want ICE to find themselves in. Makes em' melt like butter.
hark@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 240d
Not melt like ice?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 239d
It was right there.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 239d
Tbf, they're probably left handed.
human@slrpnk.net · 31 pts · 240d
Embracing the dystopian aesthetic.
raman_klogius@ani.social · 3 pts · 240d
Who else to blaze the trail than the enforcement arm?
affenlehrer@feddit.org · 29 pts · 240d
Didn't Las Vegas also buy his stupid loop?
underisk@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 240d
yes and they commissioned him to build more recently.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 240d
And the entire city is going broke because of ridiculous costs and xenophobic policies towards tourists. Those tunnels will be homeless shelters in a few years.
DoubleDongle@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 240d
The original design had a 3/16" stainless shell and some very special glass, especially the windshield. I know that the production model is just a similar-shaped cast aluminum Tesla frame with appliance-grade stainless sheets glued to it. It's basically a different vehicle from what they showed off.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website · 16 pts · 240d
I'm not convinced its appliance grade after the talks about it tarnishing
1D10@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 240d
A youtube creator showed what the said was a production car being shot with various calibers, the .22 barely dented it and if I remember right it resisted everything up to .45. My issue with that is I've seen the body panels and seen people proving its just the same stainless that a refrigerator has, and about the thickness of any car door, and I put .22 rnds threw both of them many times.
tyler@programming.dev · 16 pts · 240d
There’s a jerryrigeverything video linked in the article. It barely holds up to a 9mm and falls to a .17.
Zoot@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 240d
How is this not false advertising?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 240d
When Musk does it is just puffery
AlphaOmega@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 240d
Has anyone tried a pellet gun?
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
I wanna try see a tesla trebuchet video. I should probably clarify; I mean I want to see a cyber truck launched by a huge trebuchet. Honestly that would be a terrifying weapon. As bad as diseased corpses being launched over castle walls, anyways.
MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world · 22 pts · 240d
The Musk phenomenon is so strange. I live in Canada, and I’ve made multiple people absolutely melt down over the smallest criticism of him.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 240d
Teach us your ways. This sounds almost blissful.
obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 240d
It probably doesn't matter if they are actually bulletproof. They'll be used as propaganda show cars, or personal vehicles for the brass, and never called into actual service.
No one in their right mind is going to pick the "bulletproof" cybertruck over an armored Bearcat in a scenario where they expect to be shot at. For non-tactical applications they're no more or less bulletproof than a standard potrol vehicle.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
You sure about that? I mean, they're made of thin stainless steel glued to a plastic shell.
obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 239d
Yeah. Any car that isn't armored should be assumed 0% bulletproof. I wouldn't trust a car door to protect me from a .22.
The engine block is the only thing on a regular cop car that would reliably stop, deflect, or at least slow most bullets.
Gluek@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
And yet it also missed on cybertruck.
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
I think you missed the whoosh
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 239d
Oops. Who could've seen that one coming?
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 240d
Good the cops shouldn't be protected while they protect the status quo and serve as an enforcer of most things wrong.
lemming741@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 240d
They can't compete with a 20 year old crown vic
https://www.pontiacperformance.net/TechArticles/CV_BallisiticPanels.html
It's a sad joke.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 240d
Bakkoda@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 240d
I need more proof. I don't believe they aren't, someone prove it.
CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 239d
Probably not what you're looking for, but...
JerryRigEverything's video on the topic
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 4 pts · 239d
I appreciate you, Gollum, and I agree that that is a great video...
... Which is why that video is linked in the article under the heading:
"Cybertrucks Are Not Bulletproof. Watch This Guy Shoot Holes in One to Prove It."
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 240d
Every speeder just driving up on the sidewalk to completely disable their pursuer.
“Ed, turn here. This road has speed bumps.”
Etterra@discuss.online · 10 pts · 240d
I bet it looks great in the maintenance bay every three days.
OhioComrade@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 240d
Ready for Blues Brothers 2
DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 239d
Agent641@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 240d
Shh!
Let them find out.
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 239d
Shhhh........
BenM2023@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 240d
They are just about as bullet proof as the cars are self driving. Dunno why anyone might think that they would actually be bullet proof, given Musk's track record...
/s
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 240d
I see Elon Musk has a new venture: coffin making.
thelunaticmartin@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 239d
20cello@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 240d
Good
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 239d
Wait, people didn't know that?
Various guntubers and social media influencers have been shooting up cybertrucks for like, 2 years now.
Yeah, it might stop an average pistol round from a moderate distance.
Close up? Probably not as much.
More serious, higher velocity pistol round? Also not so much.
Hits the glass? Yeah that shit ain't bulletproof at all.
Rifle round? Swiss cheese.
... I'm confused people weren't already widely aware of the cybertruck's near total non-bulletproofness.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 3 pts · 239d
The Sheriff whose officers are presumably being trained that it is Bulletproof with a big B, that guy doesn't know.
It's an information-environment thing. If you go far enough to the right in the USA, you get a very different set of information sources.
Those information sources think the Cybertruck is bulletproof, because Elon said that it was (we actually talk about that piece in the article).
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 238d
The Sheriff is a fucking moron then, who hasn't done the most cursory due dilligence, a brief internet search as a sanity check.
Like, I hear you, I get the whole concept of information silos / different segments of the hyperreality...
... But it also just actually is utter incompetence, objectively.
There are at least a 100 videos of people shooting at these cybertrucks with various calibers from various ranges. Thats either the same or better quality research than most police organizations produce, other than pre-Trump FBI.
Sheriff should be fired, its his job to know.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 1 pts · 238d
altphoto@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 239d
Its OK, its a feature!
Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 240d
I mean they are, who in their right mind would shoot a police car!? But I guess that is America. Crazy
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 240d
Someone who is or is about to be attacked or killed by the police I'd imagine.
Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
Fly with the crows...
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 239d
Today? Only an idiot.
In 2029, when Trump refuses to leave? Maybe lots of people.
Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 228d
Trumpet himself will be removed/ excluded from power. But the team he's put in place might not disappear so quickly.
weew@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 239d
That's far from the only problem....
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 240d
Originally, I thought the stainless steel cybertrucks were bulletproof, sad to see that it couldn't even take a hammer.
MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world · 1 pts · 240d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 239d
they are giant charcuterie saw though.