Twenty GOP Zoomers on Trump, Hitler, dating, racism, politics, the economy, and more
Everyone Wants to Know What Gen Z Republicans Think. We Asked Them.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/manhattan-institute-focus-group-gen-z-republicans
https://www.city-journal.org/article/manhattan-institute-focus-group-gen-z-republicans
Twenty GOP Zoomers on Trump, Hitler, dating, racism, politics, the economy, and more
30 Comments
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 255d
In 1935, yes.
Jesus fucking Christ.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 255d
Having not read 50 shades of Grey, doesn’t she consent to the BDSM stuff? I recall reading that there are some issues in the novel that don’t follow the well established rules in the subculture, but still
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 255d
Basically yes. There are problematic elements but it's not rape. Also it's fiction where things happen in service to a plot that, unlike real life, comes to a resolution. So even if a woman does enjoy reading about rape, that doesn't mean she wants it. In fact, it's often read for cathartic reasons to deal with trauma. It's about overcoming a situation she can identify with, not wallowing in the assault (caveat: healing is different for different people. I can't speak for everyone, but I understand my wife pretty well).
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 255d
You're looking for delineation and distinction where the right wing doesn't. 50 shades was a book about fucking rich people doing whatever they wanted and the woman accepting it. That's the stereotypical impression from people who don't read.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 255d
It’s weird to me that they’re so comfortable talking about books that they haven’t even read, but I guess it’s pretty foundational for many of them as they do it with the bible.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 255d
it's very on brand for the "I did my research" people.
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 253d
"The fact that "All quite on the Western Front" proves that men just want to watch their friends die in a pointless war, it's just fact."/s
People are crazy to not get that fiction can in fact represent a wide range of things from support, condemnation, and even neutral exploration of a meriad of topics at once.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 255d
Tbh I think this is much more an indictment of misogynistic, incurious, “Christian” (specifically Christian, as they overwhelmingly identify with the sect; in quotes because their positions are just so comically and obviously antithetical to what Christianity is ostensibly about) people, who aren’t terribly intelligent or mentally critical. Less sure about how much of a role living in Tennessee plays here, but I’m also sure it doesn’t help.
The levels of cognitive dissonance are… frankly baffling. “Andrew” straight up doesn’t think women should vote, and thinks Jewish people (across the board - Jewish, not Israel or even Israeli people) are “a force for evil”… and yet picks AOC as a candidate he’d like for president…?
Also: lmfao at the dudes going “waaaaah there are too many feminist women and nobody wants to date me”
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 255d
Ladies and gentlefolk: the American Education System.
In all likelihood though, they just cherry picked the worst person they could find. The Gen z folks I happen to know are all extremely well adjusted, kind, more empathetic than I am and seem to have been able to see the writing on the wall for their future lives way sooner than my peers and I did.
Admittedly, it only takes a few psychopaths to undo all of that, so like any generation it's probably a wash.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 9 pts · 255d
Not disagreeing, but I think the problem is letting people like this have a voice. The people producing this stuff think, “let’s shock people with this dudes behavior,” but in reality a shocking number of people think, “I’m not alone! I can say and think this!”
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 255d
Yeah I would agree with you there. This guy's thoughts being published helps establish a permission structure for others like him. The next one might not just think and say it, but act on it or shudders run for office.
ETA: we could try to counter it by "flooding the zone" with positive stories, but it's harder to get as many eyeballs on those
MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 255d
One minute they're saying women are too emotional, belong in the home, and one goes so far as to say they shouldn't be able to vote, the next they don't want Muslims in the country because they treat women as second class citizens.
It really smacks of people who have an end belief and later try to find a somewhat socially acceptable rationalization for it. Which is ironic with how much they praised conservative pundits who apparently do all the research or whatever.
DancingBear@midwest.social · 1 pts · 252d
DancingBear@midwest.social · 0 pts · 255d
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 255d
RTFA - dude specifically says Jewish people; one of the interviewers goes “wait; direct question to you: you believe all Jewish people are “a force of evil”? And the dude goes “Yes sir, that’s what I said”.
DancingBear@midwest.social · -3 pts · 255d
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 254d
He's doing what a lot of actual antisemitic nationalists do, which is intentionally conflating/ hiding behind the already established conflation between Israel and the Jewish people.
I don't think we should be surprised that neonazis are taking the opportunity to call out the genocide in Gaza - we should also not be fooled into thinking they're being earnest.
DancingBear@midwest.social · 1 pts · 254d
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 253d
I agree.
Antisemitism is still a thing - it just happens to be a thing that's perpetrated by those claiming Israel as 'the Jewish state' (and attributing their actions to those done by 'the jewish people') and by people who go along with that conflation. Supermajorities don't support antisemitism, they oppose Israeli apartheid. That just makes it all the easier for actual antisemites to cover under the same political rock and pretend that they're in the majority, while simultaneously leaning into the Jewish identity of the perpetrators of that genocide.
DancingBear@midwest.social · 1 pts · 253d
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 254d
The Israeli government intentionally conflates anti-Zionism and antisemitism because it's politically useful for them. It allows them to use accusations of antisemitism as a cudgel against anyone opposing the genocide of Palestinians.
Just because Israel does it, and antisemites do it, doesn't mean you or I or anyone else should do it. There are huge numbers of Jewish people worldwide who oppose the genocide and oppose the Israeli government.
I go to a Passover seder every year that the host mother dedicates to the people of Palestine, that they may one day be free of their oppression and bondage just as were the Jews of legend.
You can oppose the genocide in Palestine without agreeing with this POS and generalizing your hatred to all Jewish people. Maybe consider that a large proportion of the public figures in the U.S. who oppose Israeli aggression, like Naomi Klein, Judith Butler, Ezra Klein, Bernie Sanders, Ben Cohen, etc., are themselves Jewish.
DancingBear@midwest.social · 1 pts · 246d
BrikoX@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 255d
It's a wild read...
qprimed@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 255d
no kidding...
::: spoiler For some, that may not come from the Right. One participant named Michelle Obama as his ideal next president. Another—the same one who had praised Nick Fuentes—cited Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as preferable to Ben Shapiro. :::
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 255d
some people really just like kick-ass people and don't care about the exact set of policies they're gonna implement.
And i would say that yes, AOC is a kick-ass personality. That's why i like her too. (but just to be clear, i don't like nick fuentes)
DancingBear@midwest.social · 2 pts · 255d
amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 255d
What the fuck?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 255d
the "z" in gen z comes from the word "zero". as in, zero intelligence, zero prospects, zero accountability, zero hope.
Gen Zero.
MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 255d
I think AOC is preferable to Shapiro for that guy because Shapiro is Jewish, and that dude thinks Jews are literally a force for evil.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 255d
A heavily propagandized, desensitized, sociopathic, and mentally-ill group... who would've thought?
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 14 pts · 255d
Only Andrew raises his hand.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 255d
I’d call giving America back to its native population a damn good start.
DancingBear@midwest.social · 6 pts · 255d
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 255d
Andrew need to get his teeth kicked in for being a Nazi.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 255d
Interesting and well-written write-up. Definitely worth a read.
I found it interesting how lots of people seem to get their views entirely from social media and have no self-experienced real-life experiences.
Like, most of their takes seem to be getting from social media. There's actually short interviews with each of the candidates in the article. Then, i wonder, isn't it the same for many of you/us? Who really gets their news from own-life experiences? Who really goes out to the people to see how they're doing? Basically nobody. It's not good if we rely on articles too much for our input. Because articles are biased and often incisive. We can only find our own worldview if we see the world through our own eyes, with as few middle-men as possible, because middle-men blur the picture. It's like the telephone game. The longer the chain of information transport, the more distorted the informations get. It's best to directly make own observations.
DancingBear@midwest.social · 2 pts · 255d
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 255d
I assure you, social media is not a better source to ground your personal and political beliefs. They are both things that should be based on personal experience and introspection and not by some stranger who may (or in many cause does) have ulterior motives.
MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 255d
No question on what they think about the Epstein files?
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
With IQs that low who could understand the response.