Kentucky woman who ordered abortion meds online could face life in prison after being charged with fetal homicide
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/kentucky-abortion-fetal-homicide-melinda-spencer-b2893527.html
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shittydwarf@piefed.social · 114 pts · 239d
Trump threw a baby in lake Michigan
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 239d
Now we know why he says crap like "post birth abortion". Because he performed one. Aka actual murder.
shittydwarf@piefed.social · 30 pts · 239d
I am 90% sure he ate cats and dogs at this point
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 239d
Yes, but that's a filthy postborn baby. With sin and all that. Plus it was a girl not a person.
This is a
fetusreal baby! Hasn't even properly implanted in the egg yet!calliope@retrolemmy.com · 44 pts · 239d
The northern U.S. and the South are essentially different countries.
pdxfed@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 239d
The year: 1859
The Union took the worst possible course with "reconstruction": it placated and allowed the rot to persist, grow and self-govern again while having equal voice so quickly to states that didn't attempt to secede. The north should have either just let the south secede, or finished the job with a full-scale cultural annihilation that would have taken decades. We have been fighting the civil war since 1860, the civil rights movement a major battle but have now ceded government power to a group who wants to finally kill the union and get revenge on those terrible folks who took away their slave labor.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 24 pts · 239d
Reconstruction should have been a New Deal/Marshall Plan level reimagining of a new country. Instead not only did we let things rot and fester while pretending much was solved, but any sort of reparations would make more sense while the actual last generation victims were alive.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 239d
It's never too late to go after the recipients of stolen money...
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 239d
Every Confederate officer and member of government, or highly decorated enlisted needed to be hanged. Every single one.
CSA culture was just slavery. It was all slavery, the same way the Zionists today are all genocide. There's nothing else. The white confederates needed to be exterminated, and we're still suffering from having not.
I know we won't, but I would like us to learn a lesson from history a single fucking time. Just one fucking time.
protist@mander.xyz · 10 pts · 239d
I would consider Ohio to be northern, and they're certainly on their way
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 10 pts · 239d
Indiana too. Technically northern but sometimes we’re not sure.
the_q@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 239d
HubertManne@piefed.social · 6 pts · 239d
When illinois legalized marijuana I was like this is awesome because all the states are around us will not take the stick up their but about that no matter how much money flows into our state. I mean wisconsin is the liberal neighbor.
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 239d
Fortunately Wisconsin has had the UP for weed for quite a while, and the market up there is so heavily saturated that it’s cheap as hell even with the road trip factored in. Half of Wisconsin has billboards saying shit like “legal weed is how close??” And then the distance to the dispensary being advertised. Southern Wisconsin is doing better now that states around those borders are legal, though, so yay!
It’s so absurd that it’s not legal here, when it’s illegal on paper only due to widespread availability close to the borders. We very quickly lost our chance to be major players in the industry regionally. Like there’s no massive tax money to be had from legalizing here now because they would still be competing with states that have a mature market and thus significantly lower prices. So dumb and shortsighted.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 3 pts · 239d
I sorta hope more borders states do it just because illinois did the illinois thing and its to corp friendly and individual antagonistic. If the border states do it we will have to lower the taxes and fees and maybe they will allow some personal grow.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
Say what you will Ohio sid legalize marijuana and abortion, though both took ballot initiatives that were fiercely opposed by the state government
shalafi@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 239d
It's not a North/South divide, it's urban/city.
cyberwitch@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 239d
Tell that to Idaho and Montana
LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 238d
Idaho is so depressing. From the land that produced Frank Church of the infamous Church committee, to an absolute right wing shithole with massive income disparity and privatization af all it's national parks and resources. I feel sorry for those folks
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 239d
Yeah we really shouldn't have given in to all their demands after beating their asses in that war.
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 238d
fetal homicide, are you nuts, america?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 238d
not all of us, just the fascists in power.
curiousaur@reddthat.com · 0 pts · 238d
But what are you doing about it?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
what would you have me do about it?
you want me to kill people?
you want me to go out and extrajudicially execute people that I deem guilty?
you want me to go out and burn down buildings and people that have committed what I believe to be grave injustices?
you want me to go out into public and start randomly killing people because I feel wronged?
please, tell me. what would you do?
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
Protest, strike, rally behind new leaders ?
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 238d
New leaders?
zorflieg@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 238d
No, don't harm anybody. But maybe just a lil' burning. But only if you have time and only if you won't get in trouble. 🙂
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 238d
Or you could engage in mutual aid in the community you live in ...
curiousaur@reddthat.com · -3 pts · 238d
Don't need to get so defensive, though that seems to signal some cognitive dissonance you're carrying. All I asked is what are you doing about it? Why are you letting it just happen?
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 238d
Most make excuses up for not engaging in their community
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 238d
Alabama considers unfertilized ovaries to be living human beings. Eggs. Just the yolk. America is indeed nuts.
texture@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 239d
this is the saddest "mug shot" ive ever seen.
i have no words
F_State@midwest.social · 14 pts · 238d
I have tons of words coming to mind.
"We have nothing to lose but our Chains" are probably the most pertinent ones.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 238d
She looks like she's not just upset, but heart-broken. I can't help but wonder if she wanted the pregnancy, knew something was wrong with the fetus, and did what she had to in a state that left her with no other options.
Edit: I recently learned that when someone's expression is asymmetrical, the left side of their face (which is controlled by the right hemisphere, which processes emotional content) is more likely to betray what they're truly feeling than their right side (which is controlled by the more methodical left hemisphere, which is better at masking.) What that reveals here is a woman who's feeling tragic sadness, and the best she can muster is a neutral half-mask while posing for a photo.
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 30 pts · 239d
Year 2031. Mexicans: Thanks god, senile Trump finished that border wall, now he can keep under control those pesky illegal USA emigrants.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 238d
I guess she should’ve just thrown it in Lake Michigan after it was born. Murica TM
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 239d
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 239d
Kind of want to mail abortion pills to random addresses though.
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 238d
Mail it to the governor's house and that state's Republican caucus HQ.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 238d
Nah. Random people so maybe it gets to somebody who needs it, and everyone has plausible deniability
nieminen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 238d
It's actually a democrat governor, and he's really quite good. Has a few failures, but mostly those can be attributed to being overruled by the mostly R state house.
VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 238d
You want to get random people jailed?
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 238d
Yeah that's totally the plan. Innocence will definitely avoid that.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 9 pts · 239d
Should have used the darknet, where at least you're safe from your own government
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 239d
People will still get caught occasionally. It's easy to screw up your privacy, and someone who needs an abortion can't just sit on the package if she's worried about a controlled delivery.
svtdragon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
Do we think Beshear could/would pardon?
nieminen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 238d
I think if it's in his power, and he learns about it. Beshear seems like a good person, that happens to be governor.
xorollo@leminal.space · 3 pts · 238d
So just to be clear, this article is clearly lying about something. The abortion pill only works to end a pregnancy that is up to some level of development, so she was jot burying human remains in her back yard if she used the pulill to abort. She was more likely flushing blood clots down the toilet like a heavy period.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 239d