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Merchants from Iran's bazaars played a key role in the 1979 Islamic Revolution, which brought Iran's clerics to power.
Now they may have started a movement to depose those rulers because many of the protesters want more than economic relief.
Some told the ABC they were angry about extensive corruption and decades of mismanagement and wanted an entirely new system of government.
"This anger comes from the sense that the country has been abandoned, as if no-one intends to stop the collapse, the instability, or the soaring prices," Babak* (not their real name) told the ABC.
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37 Comments
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 254d
They're about to run out of drinking water and might even have to evacuate Teheran because of it.
While the surrounding countries invested in their water supplies and won't be affected anywhere as badly by the drying conditions, the Iranian government spent all its resources in their nuclear and missile programs and just hoped that the decades long trend in reducing rainfall would reverse. It didn't.
They won't be able to ignore it any further when people start dying. But it will be too late by then.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 42 pts · 254d
They definitely mismanaged the crisis, but this is a false dichotomy. In the past few decades Iran has been investing into its water infrastructure; it's just that their investment priorities weren't "make sure Iran will be habitable by 2050." This is corruption and lack of political will, not a lack of funds.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 254d
Curiously, the investment probably needed to be in more advanced anti-aircraft defenses.
The war lasted 12 days. The environmental impact on Iran may last decades
Disruption of Iran's energy grid, bombardments shattering pipe networks, and the decades-long sanctions prohibiting the country's ability to import supplies for repairs (cement alone has seen double-digit price spikes for years), have undermined the country's capacity for storing and pumping potable water since the '79 Revolution.
People have already died and they'll continue to die. This is a nation fully under siege by its neighbors and its foreign adversaries. Absent intervention by an opposition government, we'll see Iran's population accelerated into the same crises created in Palestine, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Pakistan.
manxu@piefed.social · 48 pts · 254d
I wish the protesters safety and success. Iran has been a central pivot in world civilization since its dawn, and it rightfully belongs back there as a center of culture and civilization, run by a government chosen by the people and accountable to the people.
Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 254d
kinther@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 254d
Yeah when I read that I knew it was only a matter of time before something like this happened
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 31 pts · 254d
I was cheering for the "New Iran" movement about 5 years ago, and I'll cheer for these protesters today.
The Iranian people deserve self-determination, freedom from an oppressive government, and the sovereignty to elect their own officials in a new form of government. The world will be a better place when they have it.
Let Iran become the cultural hub that it once was.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 254d
which wouldnt have happened if the usa hadnt back the SHAH, instead of the rightful governement that was elected.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 254d
That was a lot longer than five years ago, before I was even alive. I'm talking about the major protest movement that swept Iran in 2021 if I remember correctly...
You're right though, US meddling started the whole catastrophe that destabilized Iran. It's really sad to think about...
zd9@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 254d
This time may actually be the perfect storm of crazy imperialistic war-mongering dictators in America and Israel, plus real bottom up anger at the Iranian government. This may actually be the thing that provokes regime change.
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 28 pts · 254d
If it does, I hope it ends well for them.
zd9@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 254d
With Israel and America poking around, it won't.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 5 pts · 254d
Outside of a straight up invasion (and even then, it needs to be successful), imperialistic warmongering dictators only provide cover for the current ruling class. If Iranians succeed this time, it will be in spite of Israeli and American warmongering, not because of it.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 254d
Yeah but probably not for the better.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 254d
First Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Libya, then Syria, now Iran.
Freedom is sweeping across the Middle East.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 3 pts · 254d
You missed Tunisia. Egypt backslid, and so did Afghanistan.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 254d
And Lebanon, which has been Freedom Bombed from both ends. And Sudan and Ethiopia currently enjoying the tender liberties of a UAE backed civil war.
I suppose you could claim Egypt backslid, but I doubt their handlers in Israel would agree.
Afghanistan is once again out of the heroin business, which has been great for Latin American cartel bosses but not much else
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 0 pts · 254d
You just added a couple of places that didn't overthrow their leaders.
PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 254d
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 254d
Come to db0. We have better communities and are built on FOSS support and aren't run by weirdos.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 254d
Yes. We are all normal and cool people. Be one of us.
PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 254d
Ha! I knew the right answer was that Alice's four brothers had 12 sisters in total!
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 254d
Welcome :3
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 254d
That sounds amazing.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 254d
Check your instances’ own world news pages and you’ll probably find your answer.
Here’s an example
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 13 pts · 254d
Tldr: yes they are defending the current government
frongt@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 254d
That's not defending the Iranian government, it's shitting on Israel and Mossad for being agents provocateurs.
Goretantath@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 254d
sigh thanks FOSS website..
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 254d
It also occurred to me, you may want to consider moving over to Piefed if you’re not into tankie shenanigans.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 254d
How much does instance really matter? I'm new to lemmy but so far it seems like I can view content from any instance just as easily as the one my account is made on.
Also, fuck tankies
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 254d
It matters only insofar as you cannot see content from any instance, only the ones your instance admins allow to federate with yours. If every instance federated with all the others we’d be flooded with CSAM and all other manner of horrific shit. If I’m not mistaken, Sopuli is pretty light on defederation.
Aside from that, people tend to make assumptions about users based on what instance they are on. I think that’s usually a dumb way of going about things, but it happens regardless.
Edit: oh and I specifically mentioned Piefed because the main Lemmy software devs are ML. Piefed is a (mostly) compatible alternative not made by authcoms.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 253d
I didn't know all that, thanks for the explanation
Danitos@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 254d
I saw a post in Hexbear saying the protests aren't against the goverment, but against the US sanctions. So, yes.
Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 254d
There is also lemmy.sdf.org, I also used to think of mander.xyz.
Edit: sopuli.xyz also looks good imo.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 254d
are there tankines for iran?
SGforce@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 254d
I spotted a post that was very "Uprising is CIA staged"
charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 254d
Like the current CIA would give a fuck about helping the Iranian people
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · -4 pts · 254d
Khameini has been too busy pouring money into militant groups hellbent on eradicating the Jews to care about his own people. Let's hope at minimum he gets the Assad treatment.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · -2 pts · 254d
You've been downvoted by Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthi supporters.
Remember the adage about a member of Islamic Jihad sitting at a table with 10 other people. You have 11 Islamic Jihad members.