Foreign ministry says mayor has poured ‘antisemitic gasoline on an open fire’ by scrapping IHRA definition
Israel’s foreign ministry has accused the New York mayor, Zohran Mamdani, of pouring “antisemitic gasoline on an open fire” after he reversed a recent order by the outgoing mayor, Eric Adams.
“On his very first day as @NYCMayor, Mamdani shows his true face: he scraps the IHRA definition of antisemitism and lifts restrictions on boycotting Israel. This isn’t leadership. It’s antisemitic gasoline on an open fire,” the foreign ministry said in a post on X.
Mamdani revoked an Adams-era order that adopted the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition of antisemitism, which the previous administration said included “demonizing Israel and holding it to double standards as forms of contemporary antisemitism”.
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TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca · 122 pts · 238d
Nobody should care what Israel's fascist, genocidal government thinks.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 38 pts · 238d
Or the Israeli and American citizens who empower them.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 238d
We should know that israel think of extrrminating Palestinians
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
We already know that!
OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 238d
I honestly take this more of confirmation that he's a good guy.
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 238d
That’s antisemitic.
/s
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 70 pts · 238d
Mamdani has expressed support for the Jewish population of NYC.
The only thing he did here that Israel is criticizing him for, is reaffirming the distinction between Jewish identity and the state of Israel. The definition he scrapped conflated the two; it was a bad-faith definition aimed at obfuscation.
It's entirely possible to validly criticize the actions of a nation's government without promoting hatred of its people; the fact of Israel being an ethnostate doesn't change that.
It's also harmful to conflate Jewish identity with Israeli politics, because there are many Jewish people who don't support the actions of the far-right, ultra-orthodox government of the state of Israel. Conflating them results in the dispersal of blame for Israel's actions across all Jewish people everywhere, and that is anti-semitic.
Also, Arabic is a semitic language, so doesn't that make islamophobia a form of anti-semitism? That would mean Benjamin Netanyahu is the biggest anti-semite alive today. Just food for thought...
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 238d
Probably half of my social circle are practicing Jews or come from Jewish families. Not only do none of them support Israel, but most of them are vastly more ferocious in their criticism than I am.
They're really speedrunning the whole "Our entire diaspora hates us." thing.
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 238d
We attend a Passover seder every year where the host mother dedicates the ceremony to the people of Palestine, that they may one day be set free of their bondage and suffering as were the Jews in Egypt.
Easily 80% of the Jewish people we know are fiercely anti-zionist and horrified by the Israeli government.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 238d
It would if most Muslims were native Arabic speakers. They aren't, though. The biggest Muslim populations are in Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Iran. Of those, only Iran has any Arab people at all, and they're a small minority.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 238d
That's true, and I was hoping everyone would conveniently ignore that fact. But most of the Muslims hated by western bigots are from Arab-majority nations, and Benjamin Netanyahu certainly hates enough Arab people to be called anti-semitic nonetheless.
A lot of americans don't even realize there are Arab Christians...
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 238d
it also encourages anti-semitism against jewish by neonazis and further cements that belief, and also stereotypes of jews.
HiBeNiceToMePlease@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 238d
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 238d
The joke of American politics is that we really are rife with antisemites, but they're very friendly with the Israeli lobbying coalition.
Why pro-Israel lobby group Aipac is backing election deniers and extremist Republicans
It's become routine to see Zionists and White Nationalists holding hands together at CPAC, TurningPoint, and the Conservative Climate Leadership Conference.
Imagine a bunch of John Birchers doing photo ops with Xi Jinping and making ritual visits to Beijing, to praise Mao, because they think it will Own The Libs. That's the state of American partisanship.
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 238d
Zionism fits with the white nationalist goal of separate ethnostates, while all the right-wing theocracy fans want the Jews to control Israel because it fits their "prophecy" of an American government ordained by god.
HiBeNiceToMePlease@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 238d
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 238d
The Christofascists need Israel to rule the region as an ethnostate, it is a prerequisite for the Christian end times.
And the current events seem to be directly moving towards these various prophecies, likely intentionally directed by various State actors as well. World War 3 being based in the region is certainly a possibility looking more likely by the day.
Railison@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 238d
Of course! The CCP is often at pains to point out any criticism levelled towards them “hurts the feelings of the Chinese people”.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 238d
yes, and CCP constant sabre rattling about taiwan is pretty much "sinophobia" as well.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 238d
Israel is hated by the entire world lol
Avicenna@programming.dev · 2 pts · 238d
mostly thanks to people who call everyone else anti-semitist too
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 238d
Fuck israel
b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 238d
Who cares? Anyone who doesn’t take glee in genocide, raping and murdering babies, bombing hospitals, murder of journalists, etc. is called antisemitic these days. The word has lost all meaning.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 238d
That's exactly why we should care. Diluting the word puts all Jews in greater danger, even the ones who have nothing to do with the genocide.
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 238d
If they didn’t, he’d be doing it wrong.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 238d
Israel blocked Doctors Without Borders from Palestine.
They don’t get to have an opinion anymore.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 238d
B..b..but isn't Doctors Without Broders a terrorist organization
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 238d
Well look at that, a foreign country interfering in US internal politics again, and both major parties turn a blind eye.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 238d
Changing the name to Antifa Jihad City was a bit much imho
dipcart@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 238d
I don't understand how you can have restrictions on boycotting anything, much less a country.
Like I genuinely don't get what that means or how it could be in any way enforceable.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 238d
The point is to outlaw collective action, forcing people into less effective unilateral action. Same reason unions are regulated.
yesman@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 238d
The Zionists love to use antisemitism as a sword against criticism of Israel. (and the Shoah as their shield) Meanwhile the American right is split over the goddamn Jewish question. Who else thinks this strategy is short-sighted?
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 238d
They can weild it all they want, but with each use it's sharpness wears off.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 238d
It's not. If the West becomes too dangerous Jews there will for the most part have no choice but to go to Israel, giving them more bodies for their fascist project. This is not a bad thing for them as long as they can count on support from Western antisemites.
yesman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 237d
Your comment is as wrong as two left shoes. Where in the world is more dangerous for Jews than Israel? Did you know that Israeli building codes require a safe room? Does that sound like a safe place to you?
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 1 pts · 237d
There's "building codes require a safe room" dangerous" and there's "I might actually get lynchrd" dangerous. Exposure to the latter will allow people to accept the former.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 238d
1/2 are true nazis, who would like nothing better than eliminating jews, the other is only supporting them because of AIPAC/ and defense contractors, plus many UNIVERSITIES have ties to israel too. MIT is probably the biggest offender, in haivng a pipeline to israeli /weapons/tech development.
charlie kirks main sponsors was israeli backed billionaire.(i think candace owens pretty much calling out that too)
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 14 pts · 238d
Israel's foreign ministry can fuck themselves with a wire brush
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 238d
Israel using anti-semitic tech from peter thiel for its war machine, and recieving aid from the most anti-semetic western country, calling a single person a anti-semite. when you think the saying" everyone is a bitch to you, you are more than likely a bitch", same goes for anti-semitism
non_burglar@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 238d
I know. You can't make this shit up.
I'm glad my poor old dad isn't alive to see this.
Edit: I mean, I wish he weren't dead, but this would upset him greatly.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 238d
Authoritarians lie and are hypocrites. Without cheating/gaming the system, they are not popular policies.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 238d
Who gives a fuck what facials think?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 238d
I like the term "facels" because other than the ones with money and power, they are mostly basement dwelling virgins.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 238d
fascels
yeah I like it
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 238d
I meant fascists hahahaha
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 238d
So did I.
Arancello@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 238d
When Israeli Government criticizes anyone, my response is “so what”.
zd9@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 238d
It means whatever target of Israel is doing something correctly and will be remembered on the right side of history.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 238d
ISrael labels everyone anti-semite for not defending them, basically the "oprah" of calling people antisemites.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 238d
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 238d
Death, death to the IDF!
doc@fedia.io · 9 pts · 238d
From what I've read the new mayor has withdrawn all orders from the previous mayor following his criminal indictment on the grounds that they may be self serving to the previous mayor and/or made as political favors intended to avoid prosecution.
I've also read the new mayor is reviewing each to see which are worth reimplenting in part or in whole.
Whether or not this was a wise choice is up for debate, but it is no surprise that those affected were ready to pounce in order to score political points. Someone associated with the new mayor must have seen this coming for this particular religiously charged topic, and must have known the NY press would not be forgiving.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 238d
I think this is a non event.
Mamdani has been publicly stating his opposition to the Israeli occupation for years. Israel's government has been accusing him falsely of antisemitism since he became known. And the NY press has tried to rattle him over it since Israel began attempting to smear him, with no effect.
This is like holding a press conference to announce that the Berlin Wall has fallen. Yes. That was the state of affairs yesterday and the day before, and presumably will remain so tomorrow.
This isn't something anyone needs to or will react to.
bobagem@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 238d
Correct. https://bsky.app/profile/hunterw.bsky.social/post/3mbhyhk2egc2e
Adam_Crock@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 238d
That card expired long ago
aramis87@fedia.io · 9 pts · 238d
Got into a repeated argument with a guy here on fediverse this morning who was promoting "Mamdani is antisemitic" stuff. He was extremely adamant, and was following the same type argument structure as I used to get into with the MAGAts on reddit. I regret to announce that the trolls have arrived :(
Maestro@fedia.io · 2 pts · 238d
Trolls or bots?
aramis87@fedia.io · 2 pts · 238d
Trolls. This is one of the conversations we had, this one on a deliberately twisted claim he posted to Progressive Politics.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 238d
BOMBING Innocent people is JEWISH TRADITION and Anyone who Opposes it is ANTI SEMETIC! We need MORE good Jews like the Bondi Beach Shooter who was ONLY COPYING Israel and therefore NOT Anti Semetic!
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 238d
As 19th century journalist Donn Piatt said, "A man's greatness can be measured by his enemies."
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 238d
Israel Threatens NYC with Second 9/11 Over Antisemitic Mayor
"We won't be so subtle this time, you Goy Fucks!" declares moderate party leader Bull DozeGaza.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 7 pts · 238d
Of course they do.
Does the Pope poop in the forest? No wait ... I'm confused now
zd9@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
you idiot, it's "if a pope falls in the woods does he make a sound"
MonsterMonster@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 238d
No no no ... It's "Does a bear wear a silly hat"
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 238d
Naich@lemmings.world · 6 pts · 238d
Conflating criticism of Israel and antisemitism is one thing Israel and antisemites agree on, except that they start from different ends of the same equation.
Railison@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 238d
IIRC the courts in Australia ruled that it’s not inherently antisemitic to criticise the Israeli government.
BUT — reverse uno card — it found that conflating the actions of Israel with the actions of Jewish people can be antisemitic.
nmhforlife@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
Both of which make sense to me if I understand it right.
MonsterMonster@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 238d
That old tactic