They are completely fucked in the head. Bernie is calling for peace, against american interventionism and Trump dragging the US into war, i cannot understand what an issue they have with that, isn't that what they should want from him?
But Russia and China are not really communist. I don't understand how they can support those two governments. Karl Marx would not see either of them as true communist.
Do you think he’s aware that their beloved Russians are bombing a country every day for few years now…? But I guess that’s fine for people like him, because obviously - Ukrainians are bad because they’re supported by the “Satan West”.
thats antiyanks, our beloved mascot. he's created roughly 4k accounts I think? He's legitimately crazy, fortunately he's not a tankie though, just a nutter
You're close. Tankies are supportive of anything that lines up with the state-sponsored propaganda they consume.
They might "think" Trump will at least bring peace, during the election as a reason to not oppose him. They might hate Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, but love particular Russian-aligned US politicians who are ten times more "problematic" or pro-empire than those ones (or other particular ones they also do extensive hand-wringing about.) It's why they all support Maduro, it's why they hate Ukraine but support Palestine, it's why they love software like Lemmy but hate software like Wikipedia, it's why they are worried about green energy in Europe which isn't "practical" but also hate Biden because he didn't support clean energy enough, and so on and so on. Their collection of anecdotes and arguments is pretty much a perfect match for the Russian disinfo machine and there is literally no other thought process I can come up with that arrives at such a specific and self-contradictory assemblage of stances.
They're just dim enough to get taken in. What proportion of them are true disinfo posters, and what proportion are genuine people who are simply dim enough to get fooled and so self-select themselves into the community, I have no idea, although I would love to be able to find out somehow.
Trump wants to work with dictators and is willing to work with Russia and China to divide up the world into their own areas of imperialistic influence. That's it, they are basically on the leash of troll factories when not members themselves. The only room for the left is the foreign state sanctioned left.
He explicitly says that the US does not have the right to take over venezuela, and that congress has to pass a resolution to make sure that congress is the one who decides on wars and to end trumps shit. you and all the bears are failing at reading comprehension.
He explicitly state that it would be ok with congressional approval
Huh?.... Uh... Did you read the wrong statement? He said that war powers are explicitly given to Congress specifically to prevent unilateral action like this and calls out the act as terrible and destabilizing, ergo Congress would not have approved it.
spends paragraphs whining about poor americans...
He spends paragraphs pointing out the hypocrisy of the administration claiming to be doing terrible shit for the benefit of US citizens while citizens continue to be exploited. Trump is the one framing this as a domestic issue, this statement is responding to that, pointing out the absurdity of "running" Venezuela when he can't even run America.
And yes no shit he's focusing on the American perspective because he's a politician writing to the American voter audience. If you took 4 seconds to comprehend his statement he's condemning American supremacy and imperialism.
Jesus fucking christ, one of them made a comic of Bernie with swastikas and shit saying HH. Bernie Sanders who is ethnically Jewish and has direct relatives murdered by the Nazis. What the actual fuck. These tankie fucks are truly some of the vilest shitbags out there. They can all get fucked.
He is concerned about congress losing the right to decide who the US go to war with, furthering the loss of separation of powers and enabling trump to "run" venezuela. He wants the congress to get off their asses and put a stop to this. Read carefully.
Maduro was widely considered head of an authoritarian government characterized by electoral fraud, human rights abuses, corruption, and severe economic hardship. Between 2013 and 2023, Venezuela dropped 42 places in the Press Freedom Index.[24] According to estimates by the United Nations (UN) and Human Rights Watch, under Maduro's administration thousands of people have died in extrajudicial killings and seven million Venezuelans were forced to flee the country.[25][26][27]
It continues, but there's no value in copy-pasting a whole Wikipedia page here. Just go there yourself and follow the citations. You're welcome to dismiss whatever news articles and sources you find on whatever grounds you want, but if you want to know the reasoning, no one is working to hide it from you.
What liberal media? It's all owned by maga, but then with a name like that I just bet you're totally commenting here in good faith of course. Fuck it, I'll bite a little. How's about refusing the peaceful transfer of power for starters?
Being against summarily murdering everybody who belong to a group you don't like totally makes you a fascist, of course. Whereas calling for indiscriminate murder is really really progressive.
But you don’t understand. It’s calling for a murder of someone they don’t like… That’s totally ok in their eyes.
And people like that have the nerve to call everyone a fascist. They’re using the word “fascism” so much that they need to create dumb nicknames and abbreviations for it.
Oh, yes. The person who has been on the side of the working class who has fought for civil and worker's rights for 60 years is totally a fascist plant. Were you dropped on your head as a child? It's okay, you can be honest.
He appears on TV because that's been the main way to reach Americans enmasse for decades. Not everyone is on the internet 24/7 or watches independent media. Yes, the people who own and run these stations are not good people, but that does not change who Bernie is.
Now for the real question: Why do you assume everyone who appears on cable news is automatically a fascist? What is it about an interview over the news that makes Bernie's entire past (again, 60 years, dude. Cable TV didn't exist back then) as someone who fights for the working class suddenly irrelevant?
Are you going to claim that a 9 year old who wins a spelling bee is a fascist because they appeared on their local news channel to celebrate? Is a local soup kitchen run by fascists because the news did a story on them?
Do you even have a clue how unreasonable your position is here?
Cry about your jobber with your strawman argument if you want. He always loses, he never goes far enough, and he's ineffective at organizing. Cable news is right wing propaganda aimed at boomers.
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Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 75 pts · 218d
They are completely fucked in the head. Bernie is calling for peace, against american interventionism and Trump dragging the US into war, i cannot understand what an issue they have with that, isn't that what they should want from him?
goat@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 218d
Tankies are supportive of trump since they believe that trump will bring the end of the US so Russia and China can swoop in as global powers
ProfThadBach@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 218d
But Russia and China are not really communist. I don't understand how they can support those two governments. Karl Marx would not see either of them as true communist.
narp@feddit.org · 28 pts · 218d
They want you to think they're leftists, but they're just cosplaying.
youAreALiar@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 218d
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 218d
Neither are the tankies
It is purely a religion for them
goat@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 217d
Neither are Tankies.
Tankies larp as communists, but they're just authoritarianists that deepthroat the boot.
Tankies operate on a very simple premise. west bad. that's it, that's as far as they think
suckMyCock@sh.itjust.works · -13 pts · 217d
goat@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 217d
take your meds antiyanks
Vlado@feddit.org · 6 pts · 217d
Do you think he’s aware that their beloved Russians are bombing a country every day for few years now…? But I guess that’s fine for people like him, because obviously - Ukrainians are bad because they’re supported by the “Satan West”.
goat@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 217d
Funnily enough antiyanks isn't a tankie. He's just crazy
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 217d
KombatWombat@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 217d
Account created hours ago, 16 comments made in a 45 minute period, all on this community.
Edit: 45 minutes not hours
goat@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 215d
thats antiyanks, our beloved mascot. he's created roughly 4k accounts I think? He's legitimately crazy, fortunately he's not a tankie though, just a nutter
AzuranAurora@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 216d
That user has been through hundreds upon hundreds of accounts doing exactly that for well over a year. They're not mentally stable.
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 217d
suckMyCock@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 217d
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 14 pts · 217d
You're close. Tankies are supportive of anything that lines up with the state-sponsored propaganda they consume.
They might "think" Trump will at least bring peace, during the election as a reason to not oppose him. They might hate Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, but love particular Russian-aligned US politicians who are ten times more "problematic" or pro-empire than those ones (or other particular ones they also do extensive hand-wringing about.) It's why they all support Maduro, it's why they hate Ukraine but support Palestine, it's why they love software like Lemmy but hate software like Wikipedia, it's why they are worried about green energy in Europe which isn't "practical" but also hate Biden because he didn't support clean energy enough, and so on and so on. Their collection of anecdotes and arguments is pretty much a perfect match for the Russian disinfo machine and there is literally no other thought process I can come up with that arrives at such a specific and self-contradictory assemblage of stances.
They're just dim enough to get taken in. What proportion of them are true disinfo posters, and what proportion are genuine people who are simply dim enough to get fooled and so self-select themselves into the community, I have no idea, although I would love to be able to find out somehow.
suckMyCock@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 217d
suckMyCock@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 217d
suckMyCock@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 217d
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 217d
youAreALiar@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 218d
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 217d
Trump wants to work with dictators and is willing to work with Russia and China to divide up the world into their own areas of imperialistic influence. That's it, they are basically on the leash of troll factories when not members themselves. The only room for the left is the foreign state sanctioned left.
SirActionSack@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 217d
Ahh yes, the 1984 plan for the future. Glad I'll be dead, maybe shouldn't have had kids.
suckMyCock@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 217d
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 9 pts · 217d
He explicitly says that the US does not have the right to take over venezuela, and that congress has to pass a resolution to make sure that congress is the one who decides on wars and to end trumps shit. you and all the bears are failing at reading comprehension.
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 217d
stickly@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 217d
Huh?.... Uh... Did you read the wrong statement? He said that war powers are explicitly given to Congress specifically to prevent unilateral action like this and calls out the act as terrible and destabilizing, ergo Congress would not have approved it.
He spends paragraphs pointing out the hypocrisy of the administration claiming to be doing terrible shit for the benefit of US citizens while citizens continue to be exploited. Trump is the one framing this as a domestic issue, this statement is responding to that, pointing out the absurdity of "running" Venezuela when he can't even run America.
And yes no shit he's focusing on the American perspective because he's a politician writing to the American voter audience. If you took 4 seconds to comprehend his statement he's condemning American supremacy and imperialism.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 217d
For all the theory tankies tell people to read, it sure seems like their reading comprehension isn't very good.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 39 pts · 218d
pic and link to the thread
https://hexbear.net/post/7236437
NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 217d
Jesus fucking christ, one of them made a comic of Bernie with swastikas and shit saying HH. Bernie Sanders who is ethnically Jewish and has direct relatives murdered by the Nazis. What the actual fuck. These tankie fucks are truly some of the vilest shitbags out there. They can all get fucked.
goat@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 217d
you know you're from a tankie instance, right?
suckMyCock@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 217d
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 14 pts · 217d
He is concerned about congress losing the right to decide who the US go to war with, furthering the loss of separation of powers and enabling trump to "run" venezuela. He wants the congress to get off their asses and put a stop to this. Read carefully.
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 217d
TankieTanuki@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 218d
Since you've linked to my post, maybe you lemmitors can help answer one of the questions posed in it:
Buelldozer@lemmy.today · 31 pts · 218d
How does that line go...oh yes. "It's not our job to educate you."
fort_burp@feddit.nl · -2 pts · 218d
oh shit lmao burned
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 217d
youAreALiar@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 218d
Glide@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 217d
I mean...
It continues, but there's no value in copy-pasting a whole Wikipedia page here. Just go there yourself and follow the citations. You're welcome to dismiss whatever news articles and sources you find on whatever grounds you want, but if you want to know the reasoning, no one is working to hide it from you.
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 217d
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 218d
What liberal media? It's all owned by maga, but then with a name like that I just bet you're totally commenting here in good faith of course. Fuck it, I'll bite a little. How's about refusing the peaceful transfer of power for starters?
suckMyCock@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 217d
fort_burp@feddit.nl · -10 pts · 218d
I'm starting to think Maduro was right about that. Turns out the Yanks really were trying to take over Venezuela!
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 218d
Oh so he is a dictator but it's ok now. Don't get too tired carrying around those goalposts.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 217d
Trump kidnapped a head of state. If he gets away with it, he'll keep doing it with other heads of state.
Centrists are ok with setting that precedent as long as it upsets the "tankies" they hate.
goat@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 217d
how can you be centrist in a shithole like the US?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
I'm not one, but from the outside looking in, it appears as though the only actual requirement is a deep abiding love for genocide.
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 217d
fort_burp@feddit.nl · -2 pts · 217d
Huh? Do you have me confused with someone else?
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 217d
Get fucked tankshit fuckturd🖕
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 218d
Being against summarily murdering everybody who belong to a group you don't like totally makes you a fascist, of course. Whereas calling for indiscriminate murder is really really progressive.
Vlado@feddit.org · 4 pts · 217d
But you don’t understand. It’s calling for a murder of someone they don’t like… That’s totally ok in their eyes.
And people like that have the nerve to call everyone a fascist. They’re using the word “fascism” so much that they need to create dumb nicknames and abbreviations for it.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 218d
Where is the tankie part
Also Bernie is a bit old at this point
guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip · 9 pts · 218d
Op put a link to the hexbear thread in a comment
youAreALiar@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 218d
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 217d
Also, where are the trump/Epstein files? Still waiting for the real ones here
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 217d
And the required explanation of redactions, and prosecutions for not complying with either?
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 217d
Mpatch@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 218d
Balalall bla bla bla bla bla bla bla
BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip · -45 pts · 217d
Sanders is a controlled opposition steam valve in a fascist empire, he is a fascist. Otherwise he wouldn't be on cable news.
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 217d
Is he a lizard person too?
americanSuxxx@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 217d
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 217d
Wut?
AzuranAurora@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 216d
Oh, yes. The person who has been on the side of the working class who has fought for civil and worker's rights for 60 years is totally a fascist plant. Were you dropped on your head as a child? It's okay, you can be honest.
BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip · -4 pts · 216d
Why's he go on cable news then?
AzuranAurora@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 215d
He appears on TV because that's been the main way to reach Americans enmasse for decades. Not everyone is on the internet 24/7 or watches independent media. Yes, the people who own and run these stations are not good people, but that does not change who Bernie is.
Now for the real question: Why do you assume everyone who appears on cable news is automatically a fascist? What is it about an interview over the news that makes Bernie's entire past (again, 60 years, dude. Cable TV didn't exist back then) as someone who fights for the working class suddenly irrelevant? Are you going to claim that a 9 year old who wins a spelling bee is a fascist because they appeared on their local news channel to celebrate? Is a local soup kitchen run by fascists because the news did a story on them?
Do you even have a clue how unreasonable your position is here?
BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 215d
Cry about your jobber with your strawman argument if you want. He always loses, he never goes far enough, and he's ineffective at organizing. Cable news is right wing propaganda aimed at boomers.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/5/27/how-a-bernie-sanders-resolution-is-normalising-the-war-on-terror
Jobber move, for example. This is what you do if you are a fascist tool.